SkyFire

Eye contact = interest. You know what to do, now do it. No excuses.

It will. But, you will benefit greatly from it. Not only with the girl.

malls, beaches, parks, stores.... concerts... skateparks... the list goes on and on.

Been there, done that... In order to get her, you must forget about her. I know it might not sound correct, but it works. Tested by yours truly. No phone calls. No conversations. If you see her, keep it to a minimum "hi, how's it going". Now to the hard part. You must continue life. Date other chicks. Party. Get in shape. Do what you love to do. She will contact you. After that is done, ask her on a date IN PERSON, not through email. Go from there...

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Been there, done that. If done right, it will have a great effect.

Kiss her.

Very good. I posted something similar to this a while back.

Nay. I control my own life. She inspired me in some ways.

Yes... many times. But you have to get back up and keep going. Each time I did, I always ended up becoming a better, stronger person. It is tough times like these that test your character.

True. However, the thing that made us break up is.. complicated. Very. For the two months we were together, it was not worth the 2 years of friendship. But still, no regrets.

There is always that friend of the opposite sex in one time or another that you fall for. Most people fall for that friend, and never make the move, because they are afraid of losing the person. "Friends are better then nothing!!" Right? Wrong. Or so I though.... I have known this chick, lets call her Z, for 2 years now. First year, I was completely infatuated with her. I could not keep my mind off her. She had no sexual interest in me, and only saw me as a "friend". But, she was a real friend. She was there for me when I needed it, and I for her. We always had lots of fun together, and would spend alot of time together during school. I got fed up with my miserable life and decided to change it. I evolved from being a scrawny dork scared of talking to girls to being a fun-loving social animal. This evolution took about 8 months. As my life gained momentum, I slowly got over her. I met plenty of other girls, got dates. I even got laid a few times. By this time, it is already october, and this girl is now my best friend. We have even more fun hanging out together. By late november, I feel something again. It is the feeling of the old me. I was falling for this girl again. I really wanted a relationship with her, but was scared of losing her as a friend in the end of it all. But hell. I took my chances. I invited her over to watch movie, and I kissed her. For some reason, I felt so relieved. After 2 years, I finally get her. "With great power, comes great responsibility" Our relationship was great for 2 months. Until yesterday. I will not say the reason of why we broke up. But I lost her. Not only a girlfriend, but a wonderful friend. Thats it. I tend to forget past girlfriends. But this one.. I really dont want to forget. She played a major part of making me who I am today... also, she plaed a huge role in motivating me to evolve myself. Yes. I took a risk. I knew that if I try to reach for something greater, I might fall and have to face the consequences. I do not regret breaking up. In fact, it is kind of liberating to be free from her. To have her out of my life. My lessons are learned. I shall not allow myself to become "down" or "depressed" because of this. This is not the end, but rather a new beginning. I simply stumbled. I must get back on my feet and keep going. Life shall go on. As the song goes.. "It's something unpredictable, but in the end is right. I hope you had the time of your life" Good luck to all of you, -Skyfire

I hardly buy stuff even for my gf. I prefer to take them to an awesome date, and show them the best time of their life. But yes, very good point. It is just easy to manipulate people on that day, which leads to more commercial sucess.

................. This kid will mess up both of your lives. Hardcore. Yes, he can go to jail.

People fear being said no to. They fear being rejected. That is why.

Yeah bro, being shy and unattractive sucks. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, and change it. IF you have questions, PM me.

I have been best friends with a girl for 2 years. She recently became my girfriend. Its possible to turn friendship into a relationship, but before it happens, you must completely change yourself. But yes, there us much truth in the post. I still have no clue why society still tries to convey the "niceness" and "friends" message.

Well said. I absolutely agree.

I disagree that it has anything to do with neurons or the brain. Humans are made naturally to be social and to mate.

Also to lonelyinasmalltown: You say you should treat people the way they deserve to be treated. Im sorry, but what is it about most girls that makes you want to treat them so well? Because they are "beautiful and special?" I wont give into that. I find it false. Treat YOURSELF good. As said above, it all comes down to self-respect. Never put the chick higher then you. Your life comes before hers. Wake up man!! Look carefully, self-respect is the deciding factor!

Ugh. Please people, read between the lines. I replied that I am not for the nice guy that is described IN THE MAIN POST!!! Hell, there is nothing wrong with being nice and kind. I am very nice to people. but you gotta have respect for yourself!!! If a girl is telling you her guy problems, you are being disrespected. If a girl calls you to a date and doesent show up, you are being disrespected. If you have to resort to buying her drinks and gifts in order to gain her approoval, you are disrespected! Those are the times when you have to act. Be nice, but have some self-respect to stand up for ytourself! The nice guys who never get chicks are the nice guys who worship and smother the woman with attention. You gotta be more selfish then that. If you arent happy with something a girl does, dont put up with it. That is what it comes down to.

The whole nice guy thing, as described in the original post. (not to offend any "nice guys" on the site..).

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/me pukes all over the screen