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No. "The one" doesent exist. Simply another thing society wants you to believe. There are millions of people who are compatible with you. Sometimes people dont marry because of love.

"Outgoing guys", as in guys that are social, dont have complex personalities? Socializing is a part of being a human being. We are by nature social creatures. Actually, women prefer guys that are HARD to figure out. To prove this, take a woman who is attracted to you but not to a point of infatuation. Call her, and have a 3 hour conversation telling her everything about you. Then ask her out on a date. See how long it takes for her to say "lets just be friends".

Doesent telling them everything they ask contradict the mysteriousness factor? Mysterious is good, it leaves them wanting more.

First of all, you completely misunderstood this article. The point of it is not that nce guys are dishonest and spew lies, it is that nice guys are allowing themselves to be doormats for women, and still expect to get women. When did I say " I still think what my friends write about other people is right".... my friend did not even write this, he sent it to me because it amused him. And I have plenty of experience to prove this to be correct.

Isnt that the whole niceguy thing as they are described in the article? This post created just the reaction I thought it would. I still agree with it.

A friend of mine showed me this. Apparently it is a revised version of the original. I find it to be true. The REAL ode to the nice guys This is an ode to those who call themselves "nice guys". The guys that finish last, that are too wussy to become more than friends, that endure hours of whining about what a-holes guys are, because they think that somehow, being a good listener will get him what he wants out of the girl, which is obviously to be more than friends. This is for the guys who always provide a shoulder to lean on, when inside, he's thinking about getting with this same girl who is crying on his shoulder. This is for the guys who are too scared to go after what they want, so they resort to being manipulative by pretending to be her friend, hoping that she'll someday "see the light" and realize that he is what she wanted all along. This is to the jackasses who go on and on about how cute, beautiful, smart, funny, and sexy their female friends are at the appropriate moment, not because they actually BELIEVE what they are saying, but because they feel that it will someday get them laid or in a relationship with said female friends. This is in honor of the guys who pretend to respect a girl's every facet, from her choice of dress, to her privacy, to her theology, but then when said girl is not around, said guy immediately begins whining about how indecisive and immature and stupid girls are like the little misogynist he is. This is for the guys who escort their drunk, bewildered female friends back from the parties yet wake up the next day and still are in love with or even respect said female friends, for the guys who accompany girls to the bars as buffers against the rest of the "creepy male population"; meaning that said female friends get to enjoy the ego boost from being checked out by guys, without actually having to deal with being hit on. What an inconvenience, right? For the guys who play by the "rules" always in a game where the rules favor MEN WITH ACTUAL BALLS, and then go on about how all men who are percieved as having any confidence or self respect whatsoever are jerks. For the guy who will never stand up for himself to a female, and thus ends up becoming her whipped slave. For the guys who blindly give out compliments to girls who are fishing for them simply because they are girls, and because they think it will get them laid or in a relationship. For the guys who are accredited as boyfriend material by girls who don't want to hurt their feelings by saying what's REALLY on their minds, which are "boyfriend material for someone who can stand a boring unconfident guy". For all the "nice guys" who manipulate and mislead by pretending to be the friend of a girl so he can be more than friends with her, this is for you. This is for the time she left three hundred messages on your cell phone fretting about two sentences her boyfriend said to her over dinner, and you wasted your precious time helping her to dissect them, meanwhile thinking about the day when someday YOU might be her boyfriend, yet being too much of a pansy to ever express the thought. Even thought you thought the boyfriend was a jerk, you were too much of a chump to ever express the thought, even though you know sometimes an outside perspective can be a good thing. This is for the time she interrupted your best Halo 2 game ever with a phone call to rant about a rumor that romantically linked her and the guy she hates most, and not only did you actually give a crap, but you paused the game for two hours to help her concoct a counter-rumor, despite thinking she was being completely immature and having nothing against the guy. Once again, you were too much of a sissy to actually TELL her that she was being immature and you have nothing against the guy. Then you unpaused the game, and promptly got shot down. Way to go. This is for the time she didn't have a date, so after you, who wants to get serious with her, vowed in numerous ways that nothing serious was going on (which misleads her into thinking you only want to be her friend), she dragged you out to a party where the beer sucked, you didn't know anybody, and she flirted shamelessly with you, but then saying "Oh, we're just friends!", and you went even though you hated it. And even though you were just a symbolic warm body to feed her ego, you went along anyways. Because you're a wuss like that, yet you think it makes you nice. The "nice guys" don't often get blame where blame is due. And perhaps more disturbing, they actually have the audacity to call themselves nice even after being so misleading and manipulative. They think they deserve to get laid or get in relationships, but no hell in way should they, if they don't have the balls to go for what they want. They explain this trend by concluding that females are illogical, manipulative *****es (which directly contradicts all of his feigned respect for women and pretend compliments to his female friends) who say they want to date a nice guy, but when presented with these self-adorned "nice guys", they say "oh, he's too nice to date" or "he would be a good boyfriend but he's not for me". The girls are letting him down nicely. What they really mean is "not only is he a wuss who gets walked all over, but he is scared to ask me out. I'm a woman! I want a strong guy who will make me feel feminine by being the one to make the first move!". Other common replies are "It would ruin the friendship" or "he already puts up with so much from me, I can't possibly ask him out!" which are euphemisms for "We'd have nothing to do or talk about because all he ever wants to talk about are my problems with OTHER guys" and "I'd get bored with a guy who will let himself get walked all over!" The nice guys come up with more and more explanations for this "phenomenon", without even stopping to consider that when a girl says she wants a nice guy, she means a nice guy WITH BALLS, who has more to his personality than just being NICE. When presented with a choice of nice vs ballsy, women take ballsy almost every time. The "nice guy" will wait and wait, and eventually, after getting played and tossed nonstop, one of his female friends will settle for him, whipping him into psychological submission. This is the most that a "nice guy" can hope for. How sad. So until these girls pop up, I propose a toast to all the nice guys. You know who you are, and I know that you don't realize you're just a manipulative wuss in disguise. But the truth of the matter is, the world needs your utter servitude and never speaking your mind. For all the crazy, absurd things you tolerate, for all the situations when you are the faceless, nameless nobody, my gratitude goes out to you. Without guys like you, guys like me, who have more complex personalities than you, with "nice" being just one factor (and we have confidence too), and who understand the TRUE meaning of "just be yourself", would have more competition. Not that I'm worried about that, but with you around, the selection of single women looking for a REAL good guy is just a bit larger. Even we get sick of you sometimes, though, and wish you would grow a pair and just go for what you want. REPOST if you are a girl who wants to educate the self-proclaimed "nice guys" so that they might actually become datable. OR: Repost if you are a guy who is sick of your male friends being wusses. Enjoy 8)

You are creating things in your head based on no real foundation. Just call her and set up a FUN date with activities. NO dinner and movie.

I personally, dont believe in organized religion. But I do not deny the fact that there might be a higher power we cannot yet understand.

What makes a man? His ethnicity? I dont think so dude. A man is defined by his character and his actions. No matter what race, we all still have the genes that make us males.

Honestly, why the hell should race matter? Black women are still women, so are chinese, ect. Its all about the character of the person, doesent matter what race they are.

You can do 2 things: You can accept your body and be happy with it (which you always should). BUT you should always seek improvement. Why settle with a large body if you can have a really fit one? All it takes is dedication and proper knowledge. The whole "accept yourself and dont change" is just an excuse for not wanting improvement. Just be sure to change for yourself and not anyone else.

I prefer completely shaved.

Then how does an antisocial geek become a confident, successful man? You should want to lose weight for yourself, like one of the poster said, because you know you are worthy of the best. Not fair to anyone else? I thought you said you shouldnt care what others think anyway... But anyway,forget what anyone says. If they can't keep up with you as you better yourself its their problem not yours.

I never said overweight women can't be feminine. I said it is NOT a sign of femininity. Overweight women can be feminine just like scrawny guys can still be masculine. But the overweight factor will still be against them.

I am going to be honest. Being overweight is not a sign of femininity, just like being scrawny for a guy is not a sign of masculinity. If you want to attract more guys, I suggest you lose the weight, just like gaining muscle for guys gets you more female attention. It is true that some overweight women do have really good personalities to make up for the appearance, but I would not settle for less. I would find a girl that has a great personality and looks great. It's rare, but personally, I never lower my standarts.

In my opinion, an ex is an ex. I wouldnt care if any of my friends dated my exes, because I know that an EX is called an ex for a reason. I think it's foolish to hold grudges on someone and say it is treason because someone is dating your ex. I never keep contact with any of my exes, exept when I run into some occasionally. Like I said before, exes are called exes for a reason.

More flirting, hugging and touching.

Being single is awesome! Im not tied down to one girl.

Smiling means she's attracted. Smile back. Your self-esteem needs work.

You shouldn't have to "prove worthy" by buying expensive material things. How exactly has she proven that she loves you?

I disagree. You do not have to be a loner in order to be your own person. Nor do you have to belong to a clique in order to have friends. Plus, not having any friends is not healthy, because humans are social creatures by nature.

Ok. Are you saying that for 7 years, there was no monent when she was single? I think you are just saying that to yourself to make yourself feel better because you never got the courage to ask her out. If so,THEN WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? GO ALREADY! You are 16? This girl is getting engaged.. how old is she? Start dating other girls. Start getting HOBBIES and get your life together. Go to the gym and get in shape. Whatever. As far as your friends go, just ignore them on the relationship subject. You dont need a girlfriend just to fit in with them. Start dating many chicks and THEY will get jealous of you.

Be your own person dude. I am really into deathmetal/grind and thrash, yet I dress however I want. I dont only wear stuff typical metalheads wear. I also hang out with whoever I want. Dont put people in these "sub groups" as you call them. They are all people. Talk and be friendly with everyone, no matter if theyre popular or totally antisocial. Judge people by character. Another thing: Dont judge people solely on who they hang out with or how popular they are. You will be surprised how many of these popular people are really insecure with themselves, how the guys who act like they are the **** and bully people around are the biggest cowards when it comes to life.

She is not your real friend. Stand up for yourself man.

Eat alot, and lift weights alot. You need to start bulking. Eat at least 5 times a day. Eat high-protein food such as eggs, fish and lean meat. No sodas, no junk food. You need to also lift weights. Basically, research about what works best for gaining mass. I STRONGLY suggest signing up to a local gym and asking some trainers there. If you need more help, PM me.