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I think that alot of people have this problem. i know that i have experienced it several times. I think it depends on the person you are talking to. If they are interested in certain things and you want to have more interesting conversations with them then talk about those things, like sports or news or something. Or if your relationship with the is more personal, then you can still include that stuff, but also maybe more emotions a feelings. i dont know what kind of things you prefer to talk about, but those are just some suggestions.

Ive spent a better part of the last hour reading this entire thread. I think it amazing that so many people can be so stubborn in their beliefs. Each person is different. Evryone has their own personalities, women and men. Some women like gus who are outspoken and/or "aloof." Others prefer guys who are going to be there for them when they need them, and would sacrifice some of their time to be with that girl. There is nothing wrong with sacrificing some of your own time for a friend, male or female. While I think that Skyfire made a valiant effort at helping others with getting out of the quote "friend zone," I don't think that there is one, single, plan for getting any female friend to be a lover. I think you had great intentions Skyfire, and you inspired a great debate, but that maybe the same plan doesn't work for everyone. Beec, you have a personality that attracts a certain type of women, and as long as that is the type of woman that you are attracted to, great! While i, and apparently Shysoul, may not agree with some of the things you do with or say to women, as long as you and your partner are happy, and each of you enjoys your realtionship, nobody can say that what you do is wrong. Shysoul, while I agree with you the most, I dont agree with everything that you say. For example, waiting for things to fall into place does not always work. While avidly "chasing the girl" may not always be the best route either, sometimes you need to be somewhat active in showing interest or she may simply think that you are not interested. Then she way think that you put her in the "friend zone" (lets not forget that women also think about these things, they are not simply sitting around waiting for us to decide what we think they are doing, or thinking about us, they are doing it) and in that case you would be stuck in a never ending conundrum that would waste your time and hers. Anyway, what I am trying to say is that there is no one right way to get any woman. Each is different and needs a different type of relationship. And if you do get put into the "friend zone," it is possible to get out, but each relationship is different, and needs to be handled differently. That's just my two cents. I hope i didnt piss anyone off, and if you dissagree with anything I said please let me know, I am always interested in the different ways that everyone views the world.

I can't believe im here, again. I've done this a few times already, about the same person, but this time it is a little different. I have a friend, lets call her L. L and I have been best friends for... about three years now. I love being around her, and I know she loves being with me too. I have hinted at having more than a friendship and having a more serious relationship more than once. She always said that she really "valued our friendship," too much to risk it. (it broke my heart every time) I always told myself it was because of her on-and-off b/f (now ex, permenently). We have each had a few relationships since we've met, but she has always been on my mind. When she was with her old b/f she was buisy every weekend, he was a real jerk and he wanted her to be with him all the time, even if it meant that she didnt see her other friends. But now that she is single, we have been doing stuff all the time. we go to dinner and movies and all kinds of fun stuff. They always feel like dates to both of us, she has even told me that, but its not because we are just friends. Now, don't get me wrong, I love being friends with her. But I also know that when I am with her, It feels natural, Like we should be together. But she seems to think that we cant have both a great friendship, and a great bf/gf relationship. Anyway, my question is, should I go for it again, lay my heart and soul on the line one more time and ask her to be my girlfriend? Or should I remain her bestfriend?

Hey, those all sound like really good ideas, except for the voice thing. But you sound like you are very nervous about this. the key is to relax, you will find that everything will go alot smoother if you are calm, then you can think about what you are going to say and what questions to ask. If you are nervous there is a good chance that you will go blank and start studdering or somthing. take deep breaths, you'll do fine.

Yeah dude, I agree, it seems to me that you guys would be great together. I hope it all works out 4 you.

Hey guys. I haven't posted for a really long time, but now I am back with a new problem. Anyway, those of you that have been here for a while might have read some of my older posts, but I will go over them, so not to worry. Anyway, so there is this girl named Lauren. She is my best friend, and has been for two years now. We talk all the time about stuff, and she tell me things that she doesn't tell anybody else, it is a very trusting realationship. Anyway, so beggining... well pretty much the day I met her, I have had this thing for her. She is very good looking, and a great person. I had a serious crush on her for a long time, and asked her out twice. Each time was horrible timing, she was ether coming out of a long relationship, or in one. So I kinda backed away from that a little. We still were really good friends and everything, but I just pretended not to "like her like that," but I still kind of do, like everytime I see her I become really happy. But she has a bf of like, a couple of years on and off now, so im not about to do anything. Things have been going pretty good since then, anyway. Then, there is this other girl... Her name is Jenny. We have been really good friends for a year. We went out for two weeks last year, it went really well right up until the end, which ended with me doing about the worst break-up ever, over the internet... on her birthday. Yeah, it's horrible, I know. But after a couple of weeks we started talking again, and became really good friends. Now we talk all the time. But lately when we talk in person, its kind of different. I can tell that she kind of likes me, and we have been flirting, alot. I kind of like her too. Basically, I like them both. Lauren is a year older, and there is a good chance that nothing will ever happen, but somehow I can't get her out of my mind. Jenny is a year younger, we have a history, and if I ask her out, given good timing, I know she would say yes, and that I would be happy. So my question is, what do you think I should do? I could stick it out being single and seeing what migh come of Lauren. Orrr Go out with Jenny, who is a great perosn and all but, I dunno, I am kind of confused. just any comments or advise would be great. It just helps to get it all out.

Hey man, I am really sorry to hear about your predicament. I know this doesnt help, but that stuff happens in life, and it isnt fair, and no one deserves it. The best advice I can think of is to go meet new people, have new experiences, this can help you get over your history with this girl, and move on.

hey man, i wouldnt worry too much about it. I personally am friends to a few girls that have boyfriends. I hang out with them all the time, but that doesnt mean I want to tear them away from their boyfriends. He might just feel uncomfortable being in her house with you there. Alot of girls need guy-friends to talk to about their problems. Its not unusual. I wouldnt worry about it.

Alright, my best friend is a girl. She has a boyfriend of a few months. I am not really interested in her as more than a friend. But I was just wondering, how far should friends go? Can we walk with our arms around eachothers shoulders? our waists? can we lay on a couch together? I mean i'm not really interested in her as more than a friend, but I am just wondering what is appropriate. Thanks for any help.

That I know of there is nothing you can do to grow taller, at least not in the amont you are talking about, that quickly. You will be growing for a couple of more years though, i would say you could reach 6'3" by the time you are finished. All I can tell you is to increase your calcium intake and hope. 6'1" is already taller than the average adult, i wouldn't worry too much about it.

Just be conscious of the way she acts around you. if she makes alot of eye contact, or flirts a little, or smiles alot around you, those are some good signs. And btw, eviljedi (cool name), i'm sorry i do not agree with you. I tried something exactly like that one time, with one of my very good friends, and we just started drifting apart after that. Hope I could help.

I agree with CherryGrl. hCutting is dangerous, and is also a possible sign of depression. There are many better things to do with your time, find a sport, build model airplanes or cars, reading, writing. There are lots of great hobbies out there, choose any one of them, except cutting.

Hey everyone. I was just wondering about my future today, and I came upon a painful thought. I have a few really close friends. They mean everything to me, and I dont know what I would do without them. But today I started thinking about college. And I started wondering what is going to happen when we all leave. Will we still be friends? Will we ever see eachother again? I know that this is a long ways off in my future, but it still bothers me. Is it normal to feel this way, or am I just over-reacting?

Well, first of all, to really give you a good answer, more setails are going to be required. But from what I can tell, you have a friend (girl) that you like. And you want to know how you can get her to go out with you. If that is the case, then the answer is this: there is no good answer. It is really hard to transition from good friends to b/f g/f. Many girls (and guys) do not want to do this, to kepp the friendship. The only thing I think you could do is talk to her about it. See what her feelings are. However, these kinds of talks are difficult, and very tricky. You have to show her you care, without revealing all of you feelings, you have to find out what she thinks of you, and you have to be mindful of her feelings, all at the same time. But if it is worth all the risks to be with her, then good luck. I hope I could help.

I agree with above posts, it does seem that she is interested in you. But i would go rushing in. take it slow. get to know her better first.

Personally I think two things: 1. You might be blowing this out of proportion just a little but. 2. You need to talk to him about it. Sometimes it can be completely harmless if a girl sits on a guys lap, and sometimes not. But either way I think you should talk to him about it and just say that its ok for him to have friends that are girls, but that there is a line to be drawn somewhere. If he is worth going out with, he will understand

See if you can get her #. Then call her up and see if she wants to make plans.

This is not so much a quest for advice as it is a question. But when you are talking on the phone with a friend (guy or girl), what are some things that you talk about? I always seem to run out of ideas, so I was wondering what other people talk about.

May I just say: Welcome to this wonderful site, Im sure you will love it here. Anyway, on to your question. Under no circumstances do I want to sound incensetive. However, it sounds to me that he genuinely does not want a relationship with you right now. I would give it time, if you still really want to be with him. I think he might feel suffocated by all the attention you are giving him. I would wait a while. Let him clear his head. Then ask if he would be interested in going to lunch or something. Then there could be a chance for a relationship. Hope I could help.

Alot of people just dont like to discuss it. It could be for alot of reasons. I agree with Mahlina, its not that they are being secretive nessisarily, maybe they just dont have a habit of talking about stuff like that.

Um, kate, fyi, he's a guy. And it sounds to me like he is definatly straight.

No, it is illegal in all states. Its just that in some areas it is not as frowned upon, and there are less severe punishments. But either way, there has to be someone else he could get to know, outside the family.

There have been numerous post on this subject throughout the forum. Many have written on this subject, me included ( link removed ). This is definatly the best one I have read. Great job finding it, and thanks for putting it on here.

It sounds to me like you should go see a doctor. The reactions that you are having could become more serious if you digested the paint. Also, it is possible that you throat could swell, making it hard to breath. I would see a doctor as soon as possible.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news for you, but Im with Adam. Its against the law. And far be it from me to critisize your sexual prefrances, but personally, thats kind of disgusting. There have to be girls outside your family that you can get intamate with.