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al7 i assume by everyone your age being married means that you are atleast late 20's and up? If this is the case then yes moving will not help you and you will have to find a different approach. Since im in my early 20's I figure I have nothing to loose by moving into a new city. I figure that most people my age arent married.

"I am still wondering though: why is it better to move to another place? " The reason I feel this is because being here is like beating a dead horse.. Ive been raised here my whole life. Its the same people over and over again. Im looking for a new life, a life away from my parents, away from just houses and gas stations. I notice when im forced into a new environment around new people (like a new office job) I have no choice but to meet new people. You have to come to your new job, home, school, church, everyday.............and you might find a female friend. I guess you just have to be willing to experience new things in life. I can easily make new aquaintences, but not friends that share the same interests. Ive also been in the "related to one of them and got dragged along with thier friends"situation with my sisters and her friends. But that was before they got thier own car.

"Interesting, would not it make it worse? Start from scratch means you'll lose even friends you had before... " What im saying al7 is that the guys that im around arent interested in the stuff im interested in the first place. i just know them from church or from work. Very impersonal conversations. I could leave this place and never look back. I can make "friends" like that anywhere. Heck even me and you have somthing we are on the same page about and ive never even seen you. I figure a change of scenery MAY help me.

Im kinda in the situation your in, only im a complete loner. Im not into sports, buying cd's, clothes etc. that most people do. I like to work on engines and trucks, electronics, and fix things. Sports is a waste of time, clothes is an ABSOLUTE necessity otherwise waste of money, and I download only the songs i want to hear. This is the stuff everyone my age I know is into, and we simply have nothing in common other than living on planet earth. As a result i think this is the reason I feel insecure around women my age because I feel weird, but only when Im around others my age. The only thing Ive been planning on doing to fix this problem is to move to another area, job and all, and just start all over meeting new people. Also, I think the key may be how many guy friends you have. or your Social Circle. If you regularly associate with enough guy friends, meeting more and more, im hoping, that one of those guy friends will show up with a female friend or family member,and if you all get to conversing together she might like you. Hopefully it will be a comfortable situation.

Sounds like its about time for you to visit link removed. Hope you have a decent job. Your old enough to be evicted.

Confidence is a state of mind. Confidence conveys that you frankly dont care what someone thinks about you and that you are just being yourself, you state your opinions, will not change to "fit in", You talk to women you are interested in but not put them on a pedestal, worship them, or seek thier aproval. You are happy being preoccupied by yourself. take it or leave it. People have no choice to respect you for that.

Im taking notes OceanEyes, good to be aware of things that can turn a girl off. listen up guys...

I read your post and ill say that if you like her you should definatly ask her out because she really stepped out there to ask you out in the first place. At this point she probably is waiting for you to make the next move. Shes not going to do all the work! Think of it like this. Ask her to join you at an event. If she makes excuses and dosent try make up for it, then Id say shes probably not interested. Otherwise if she agrees, well... But I wouldint wait around too long, its your turn!

Man, I just dont understand! I cant go with most women my age because they are not of my religion, I have to hear "do no become unequally yoked" from my clergy but most of you? Why not try dating services like ... (or is it dating?) Some hot women on there. Post your picture, post your aboutme essay, and practice dating over the internet in slow motion. Its great! I dont think im uphill with women in general, Heck, one girl over heard my converstion trying to find a book i needed and gave me her number to sell me a book while i was in the campus book store. My only problem is most of the girls in my religion wont flirt, smile or play hard to get. even tho you see them every sunday, so you cant go too far without looking weird. Im just trying to get out to other congregations more. And Strandysmommy, That was very childish of him to do that to you! I think he may have been trying to get back at you for somthing. You really need to not hang around people like that and hang around groups of people in your situation.

Ohh, married, I didint know that. Oh well shes probably in it for fun, unfortuatly that leaves you in the middle.

By the way you are discribing it. Chances you are just a sexual toy to him.. Sitting on him?...Imean you are literally throwing yourself at him. Dosent sound like hes really interested in you as a person.

Sounds like a classic example of getting your hopes up. Really though your trainer may have been interveining (sp?) to separate you two for himself.He may have not had luck with her and didnt want to see her with anyone else. He may have lied about her already having a girlfriend., OR He may have been good friends with the the girls boyfriend and was reminding her that she had a boyfriend. Either way, she probably isnt mad at you, she is probably just trying to keep it professional since someone probably got on her about her flirting. I bet that happens alot in gyms around the world. Thats my guess

Hey, maybe you should post your picture on link removed and see where you really stand with most women as far as looks are concerned. women that visit the site vote you from a 1-10 You may find out that you rank high and that you may just need to hone your social skills. Also, Constantly putting yourself down will NOT help you. Youve got another 50 years of life on this earth, might as well start now trying to get your life together so you can enjoy it. No one else is going to magicly swoop you off your feet and women arent the cure (beacuse they can dump you). First you can start by taking down that image next to your name. Find somthing your into (except computers) and be really good at it.

Just a thought for you guys getting rejected. A little suggestion on getting stood up, try not to ask the girl out. Better yet mention that you are going to be somewhere on a certain date and that yould like her to join you. Like " Hey im (or me and some friends are) going to see the new movie friday, if you wanna come, let me know," or "heres my number" this projects self--confidence that you are cool and not a needy person and that life is not going to end if she dosent show up. That way if she comes, its because she really wants too. If she beats around the bush theres your answer. And if she dosent come, well, thats her loss. Its not like you were begging her to. Tailor my example to better suit your situation.

I once met a girl that was just awesome at work one time. she never would leave you wondering if she liked you or not. She was open. sometimes she would approach me with a smile and ask me how im doing. Ask if i wanted anything before she went to the snack bar. Didnt care who was around. Always stopped and chatted. etc. It was no big thing to her. No games, no ignoring me. Want to have lunch? Ok, we have lunch. Easy to talk to. Told me she was a Ga Tech grad. Tall, and man was she a Killer dresser! Honestly at first i thought she was just being friendly. But after we first met, she told me infront of her girl friends that she thought we "clicked". I was shocked when she said that. Honestly I dont know what she saw in me. She is who really got me into dating. unfortunately she was a intern and had to leave for additional schooling to become a lawyer. I asked her friends if they had heard from her after she left and found out she was from somewhere near Italy! Exotic! Man I miss her. Now if I could only find another girl like that. Maybe its me? Sometimes I think some of these girls at my church would die a virgin before they talk to me. Honestly whats the difference between women at work and at church??

I was working up the guts to talk to a girl tonight at my bible class.We are not in the same class but we all usually meet in the same lobby afterwards. but as soon as class was over and we were all conversating with one another near the door, I got close to her, coming up from behind as shes walking out the door and just decided i couldint do it. Why? Well it seems like women are sexless or somthing. Its like sometimes they dont seem to give you the time of the day. Like im not even there! Like im a water fountain on the wall. Imean look, Im young! Im single! Atleast wink at me or throw your hand up! id be more than happy to wave back! Its like she was busy talking to others and id feel like i was interrupting her if i tapped her on the shoulder and said anything. Like I NEEDED her attention. But I also think part of my personal problem is i have a baby face, look really young. EVERYONE i first meet young and old say, "how old are you? Oh I thought you were 15 or somthing" So some girls my age probably just blow me off as some kid. Its a vicious cycle! I really dont know what to do. I thought of growing facial hair but I really prefer a clean cut look.

Kinda funny, I do the same thing. I just dump my paychecks into my vehicles and fix them. Its a way to get my mind preoccupied. Around here, im known as the guy with many cars. People ask me "how many cars you got?" "need?" "your always in a different one" I also try to work on self improvement. Go to the gym, force myself to drink more water, keep my place clean. It gives me more confidence so if i do approach a girl I feel that i somehow have my act together regardless of the outcome.

For some reason im attracted to girls that are taller than me. I dont know why. It seems like they are a "catch". like im going out with a celeberty or somthing. I feel like the guy on rocky and bullwinkle. But reading this post, I can see how kissing, dancing, feeling secure etc. can become a problem. Sucks for me not being tall. BUT if shes ok with it, then Im all for it!

Well Ive done that before to girls that ive been interested in. Usually I am sort of intimidated by them. Maybe when not in the classroom he feels uncomfortable talking to you maybe around certain people. Imean, im alot better around girls i like when theres not many other people around or when we will be stuck in the same spot. Ive seen times i may not talk to a girl passing by for fear that she may not notice me saying "hi" Then i feel like an idiot in front of everyone, like i tripped or somthing. To make yourself unintimidating, smile at him from time to time to make him feel like you are acknowledging him. "Give him some encouragement"

Turboz, tonight i stood to the side and waited around. I started talking to someone and we were kind of in the way of the door. I watched her out of the corner of my eye as she walked between us with her arms folded with her friend, We stopped talking to let them walk by. and she didnt even look over my direction. Its like the door was the only thing on her mind! I dont feel like i can approach her. Sometimes i feel like id rather see some women in my area do some work and go from there. its like the women around here are zombies or somthing. Im tired of putting my confidence out there for them to devour with thier good looks!

Yea, I figure if a girl is really interested in you they wont play headgames.

ive been seeing this girl lately in my night class that sometimes stares at me from a distance, the first time was when I drove by her while parking my truck in the parking lot, then when I walked by her, towards the entrance (she was standing by the entrance the whole time with some friends) i saw her still looking at me. its like her head was locked on me walking by fast. Like a rat ran accross the floor. I did not make eye contact with her since I was rushing . In class sometimes i see her looking in my general direction. she could daydreaming? Sometimes i just stare back a little. Last week as I was leaving from class I stood by the door and waited near the door for her to walk out as she was going towards the exit we looked at each other, I said 'hi" and she said hi but she never slowed down or smiled?? Im thinking of starting small talk but I really dont know if that means "dont dare approach me". Why would someone look at you but not smile? Maybe she was just checking out my ride??

(I know this is old but im still interested in muneca's thoughts) muneca, you are concerned with how a guy feels about you if he dosent know you when you approach you. Let me tell you how guys work.... Two things. Firstly, is he already in a relationship? Does he enjoy the relationship? Assuming both answers is no, then the second thought immediately is: How does the girl that is talking to me look? average? hot? How is her personality? happy? Full of energy? Feminine? shy? cute? immediately he has already sized you up and knows whether he would like to go out with you or not. Thats pretty much what a guy (or atleast I) would think if a girl approached him. probably how a girl thinks too BUT DONT WORRY ABOUT IT! You cant possibly know what he thinks about you unless hes already flirting with you. So roll the dice! You may get lucky! Now, the personality of who you approach is simply unknown. He may be someone who has plenty of bad habits, lazy, not motivated, may try to just use you, (some guys have been through alot and may see you as just a piece of meat) or he may be a nice shy guy and be very accomidating to a women he dates. You just never know unless you get out there and try, or atleast ask others about this guy first. Of course dont do this at a sleazy night club unless thats the type of crowd you want to attract attention from. Maybe try a church crowd? Its up to you. Wouldint be anymore risky than if the guy approached you and you accepted.

Tinkerbell pretty much summed it up. Yes in High school Ive had girls try to make moves on me. they would sit next to me and just start flirting, touching, etc. Most of the time because of the girls attitude and personality they got my full attention and unless they were just unattractive to look at I would have been more than happy to go out with them. Imean i was technically availible, why not? Ive also been in a situation where i was doing the chasing but it was only one sided so i simply stopped calling. I figured she was only trying to be nice but wasent really interested, otherwise she would have shown up for a date we planned. But if you dont try youll never know if someone would be willing to go with you or not. It may work out for you if you try

jack1234.....Well for her to be interested in you, you must have been doing somthing right. As far as im concerned just be yourself and dont be clingy. muneca....You think if you approach someone that they are going to feel like they should be someone they are not? come on! Just because your a girl, dosent mean you should just sit there and wait for the other person to do all the work. If you chase and they act as if they are just being nice to you then simply stop chasing, because nothing is there between you two. But someone has to make the first move. If you think you are really interested in someone, go for it!