epilogue

CarnelianButterfly, I always dreamed about finding my virgin love. But with the majority of girls being like you, it's impossible to find that now. So guys like the one who started this thread and I have given up in finding that first-love-virgin combination, and have decided to find them separately (ie: virgin first, then join the non-virgins later). Like how some girls dream about their wedding days decades before its time, some of us want to think about sharing virginity, k? We don't mess with your dreams, and you don't mess with our's, k?

stop mixing up two different things

i want both whether i have to separate them or not

OK assuming that's true, How is it gonna be possible for us minorities (like 5%) to search through the jungle (vs 95% non-virgins) and find each other..? As each night passes, my odds decrease as more virgins around the globe are losing it..

I'm surprised I don't see a long list of posts by devirginized females flaming him for doing it for the sake of 'vengeance,' when it's clearly not. I guess people were alot smarter in '04 I hope you found someone to share your virginity experience with.

if you want to share your virginity with a virgin, then by all means, do it now before it's too late

Girls never tell me what went wrong so I aint gonna either MUAHAHAHAHA

You've read it all. They've had bfs/gfs and hookups at the same time. You will find serious relationships, don't expect to find faithful relationships easily. I really hope you find what you want. 'cuz I haven't.

Besides, majority of high school relationships don't last. High school is a time for short term relationships and losing virginity for most people. A real girl who liked you wouldn't do that to you (though I have no idea what the exact conditions are like for bipolar status). Find someone who won't ditch you and not feel sorry about it.

I think a lot of people will learn from the experience you shared, Jaela When a guy wants your phone #, teaches you hockey, shares music, and still sees you have 2+ weeks, you should never doubt that he has lost interest. If anything, I'd say that it's only because he liked Jaela so much that he became overcautious with making sure Jaela wouldn't judge him badly/wrongly. Because nothing sucks more than to permanently mess up all strings/opportunities to get to know someone who might be the destined significant other. This is a question out of curiosity to girls: When you guys say "he isn't physical enough," is it because you asked him to touch you and he said "no."? Or is it because you didn't take the time and effort like Jaela did? Or maybe it's because you don't like shy guys as well as non-physical guys -_-?? haha

Simply one of two things: 1) You were too slow and missed your chance 2) You need to win the flirt wars!! She probably thought you weren't going fast enough. If she's too fast for you, then she's not the right one.

Yes, too strong indeed, as smallworld pointed out. Though we live in an e-mail age, I think when it comes to asking girls for relationships, these things are best done in person. No matter how easier the alternatives may seem.

San Jose, Leland or Santa Teresa High School?

You're not insecure about yourself right? That's something that needs to be done completely before going for this. If you've confirmed that.. Ask her now, or it will haunt you even after graduate college Unless you're gonna be in a Letters & Science major, I strongly suggest you make your move Most importantly, no matter what happens, don't let the outcome make you think any less of yourself. If anything, you should feel better about yourself for doing something I (and other guys who let shyness get the best of them) couldn't do. If the girls see you get accepted or shot down and you keep your cool, they will know that you're not insecure.

k, I know half of the posters here have the full understanding of the situation, while the rest don't. so to make this clear to prevent repetitive replies: Wanting the girl being a virgin - we all fully understand that desire However, what you guys don't know (or even bother to question), is what it's FOR Most people who end up changing their minds, wanted the girl to be a virgin because they want that in a girl FOR long term relationship or marriage While the others simply wanted to 'score'. I don't know what the hell puddle wants. I think he's looking for the perfect mutant. I, on the other hand, have been abstaining for the intention of saving it for the other one who also saved it. This is what I've been planning and imagining for the past 11 years. This isn't about another love. This isn't about scoring. This isn't about going all the way to marriage. This isn't about a fling. This about sharing an experience with a mutual friend/virgin-buddy. There are so many things I've missed out since high school. I regret not joining the journalism group, the basketball team, not going to prom, not going to a prestigious school, etc. It's bad enough to have to live with giving up all that. But to ask someone to give up something they've innocently planned and wanted for 11 years is just plain cruel. No matter what you tell me, I doubt I'd change. Because I've heard it all: "you won't get it unless you're a virgin yourself" = DUH "it's impossible in this age. it's 2000, and you're not 16 anymore" = ...yeah "a girl's worth isn't determined by virginity" = DUH; and this isn't about worth, k? forgot most of the quotes; i'll add as some of you repeat some of it I've turned down 3 opportunities in high school and I turned them all down. 8 months ago, I've found it extremely hard to find a girl in my shoes. At that moment I was too shocked to continue my work. My plan and dreams of sharing one of my significant & special moments in life with someone who I want to share or someone who deserves it has gone down the drain. I've already given up losing it to the "right one" and went down another notch. Right now I can only hope that there is another inexperienced girl who has the same thoughts of virginity and the same status.

because majority of the people who are 21+ and still a virgin are guys, and they deserve to share an experience with another fellow sweet & innocent girl but nice guys come last, and we'll never have our share (now dont give me that whole girls aren't property crap - i already know that). i dont want just love. i want real first love - first love to girls: to those of you who party alot and happen to find a virgin guy - please don't take it away. give him to someone you know who is a virgin so they can share a better mutual experience..

it feels good not to be the only person but it feels bad that only 90% of the people who have this problem are guys