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lol yeah, i really wanna do it with a close friend of mine, just for the heckof it... u live life once and only once (unless ur one of those who believe in reincarnation) so why not have some fun? Its not gay, and studies show that a pretty high number over 50% of males have had same sex encounters, and women are much higher, cant remember the number.. but im thinkin about 80%. I mean, hey its a good experience and fun too really.

dunon... but i really wish i wouldnt have read this post after that day that i've had.......

usied, do you even know what its like to feel the way that "keri" did? its terrible... especially when people use you on top of that and everythign else is going down hill too.....

i always feel like im being used... and its driving me crazy, i agree with you on that part and i know how it feels. Ive known my friend for 10 months and me and my family went to orlando studios this past summer and took him with us ALL expenses paid, took him to the beach, and took him to the great smokey mountains, and skydiving... and he didnt pay a single penny of any of it. But if i ever need anything he wont do it... now i HATE a lot of things because I wish I never would have done any of this for him, I wasted my money and now I hurt. then today he said i'm a very sh*tt* friend. I havent even been to his house! do i have a good reason to feel bad and depressed? After all we've I've done for him and he acts the way he does? I mean, i get mad about every day but I guess you can see why.... I figured all of this out today- and in the process of tyring ot be the best friend to him that I could be, he steals all of my other friends. now everytime i run into one of my freidns in the hall they will talk to him, and completely ignore me.... thats why i posted in the suicide forum too... all it takes is one person to completely ruin your life...

it doesnt mean that you are gay AT ALL , just like seza said " its an encounter" , its kind of a ... "what the h3ll ... why not try it" type of thing, or you are curious and just looking etc. None of this means that you are gay.

i just cant seem to do anything right .... and i dont compliment him or anything else, i try but i forget or it makes me feel bad because i have a depression problem. I just want to know how to can be a good friend.

I'm having problems lately being a good friend. Really, when i think about it.. I don't know HOW to be a great friend. What should I do, what should I say? This applies to being friends with GUYS only. I got the girl thing down and im pimpin... but i dont have that many guy friends... and i feel that im losing my best one because I'm not being that good of a friend. Thanks.

well hes coming back over this weeked (friday) and im going ot his house (saturday) and we still have our talks... so ill let ya know this weekend

thanks shorty, u made a lot of sense - and actually since you have posted all that you have posted , i think im going to change myself some anyways, for the better. thank for all the advice everyone.

hmm i didnt even know about this... ive never seen someone who wasnt "uncircumsized" i thought everyone was. Is there a picture? im just curious to know what it looks like.

yeah, you could get someone to get wax products for you... but ur young.... that would be hard - dont worry i have the same problem kinda.

i talked to my friend again, and he told me that he saw me and i was "up" (erect) and we started talkin... and he said he was "up" too when we were talking about all of this. (i didnt ask him anything else) but i wonder if he was like that when i was touching his chest? hmm.... do you think he would let me do it again next time - if he liked it and it made him "up"? Or do you think he'd avoid it to make sure nothign else happened.. ?

if you do a search on google, there are ALL KINDS of things, and i know A LOT of people who have done it, and i'm sure most of them wont say, because I wont say either... except on here becasue my identity is secret. I havent done it yet, but I want to.... I've asked several people, older friends etc etc, and they have all said "do it while you are young and dont let than opportunity pass you by" they told me to just have fun with it, you can do it more than once. One of my older friends who is now 22 years old said that him and his best friend have done it porbably 25 times but stopped when they were 17 because they were just horny little teenagers who couldnt "get none". Then they started doing it with girls instead, but they never did anythnign with eachother except maturbate- and now they are both still best friend and happily married with wives and kids.

emotional - i agree with you If i were you cynder, i would try not talking on the internet sending messages back and forth because when you do, the reader can understand it how they want, and not how you meant for them to. Ive been in a lot of fights with people before because of me or them misinterpreting (spell check) our chat wrong.

hmmm...... so are you saying that maybe i should just ask him if he wants to experiment? How would i ask him something like that? what would i do? I mean you live life once, so why not try something new? Is there any way I could talk to him about it to convince him that its NOT uncommon to do and that its ok? .... sorry for so many questions.

yesterday my friend came over and we had fun all day and played around,played games, went to basketball practice for school and then my brother rented the gym that night so we went out there and played again. Then we came back home and played charades with my brother and his girlfriend. After that.... that night..... we were supposed to go to bed because of our game that we played earlier this morning. But we stayed up and talked about things like working out and girls etc etc. Then we were laying in the floor next to eachother because my mom had already came down to check and see if we were asleep, and we started talking about how other guys "circle jerk" and experiemnt with their friends. He's pretty shy... and I can be sometiems too, we were thinking of comparing, but he didnt really feel comfotable with it - but i think thats because neither one of us had even seen the other one without a shirt. (we havent really known eachother but 8 months) So then we decided to show eachtoher our body without a shirt... and he wouldnt take it all the way off... he doesnt like his body because he thinks he's not hairry, tan , or big enough. When I feel the exact opposite almost.... but , he let me touch him stomach and chest and rub it..... (thats where i started thinking...) I really liked it... and after that i asked him if i could do it 2 more times... and he let me. After that he said he started feeling weird about it (he always feels weird about things when he thinks about it alot - so why was he thinking about it so much?) Then he wanted to do the same thing to me, but i wouldnt let him because i didnt want to show him myself either. (no ones ever seen my chest or stomach unclothed) he asked me several times but i just couldnt bring myself to do it..... next time I think I'll let him though.... I was really wanting to experiment with him but I think he's too worried about his body to do it and because he hasnt even seen me without a shirt (because he said - dude i think its cool to show eachother but... i havent even seen u without a shirt... ) Do you think he wants to do it too? I was just scared to let him touch me cuz i have some hair around my belly button , im 15 and hes 14 and hes sorta on the slim side but hes cut. And im bigger, and not really "cut" but im not even close to fat. I just didnt want him to touch me and feel that... do you think its a big deal? I have a small patch on my chest too... i didnt want him to feel that... but i really wanted to let him... what does this sound like? i am not really sure of my sexuality , and thats why i want to try... and i like him more than any one else so i wanna try it with him.... give me and ideas, comments, advice thta comes to mind thanks guys!

yeah... thats true, and i have thought of that, and i think of how i used to be so stuck up.. i guess i just miss my old friends but they arent the same people... they have changed and think they are better than everyone else.... it bothers me. But like you said , they really arent that popular... but why does everyone think they are big shots? It would be so much easier if everyone else realized this too, but they are too blind to really see what is in these people. I dont want any problems with anyone... but people call me and my friends gay all the time and I almost had to take it to court, it got really bad where they were putting things on the internet and and sending me bad email etc. I finally fixed that with court threats and a lawsuit with the school but they still say things sometimes, and i know they talk about it a lot more.. just not when im around. I probably shoudl have said all of this in my first post.

i am definitely not trying to be shallow... i just hate feeling bad about myself, i dont want new friends

i mean, its not so much size its just everyone is always like "why do you hang out with them nerds, they are so puny" and it used to not get to me but... lately it really has. Everyone is starting to call me gay, and que*r (no offense) and i just dont feel that comfortable around them any more. I used to hang out with these people who are calling me this... but I stay away from people who do drugs... thats the bottom line, i dont want involved. I can get along with anyone and I'm popular too. I just dont want to lose my friends... but i dont want this bad feelings i keep having when I'm aroudn them....

I dont know whats going on anymore.... all of the people i hang out with seem like big losers and they are starting to make me feel like im one too because i hang out with them. Its causing me to treat them bad and feel just.... i dont know it just makes me feel bad. Whenever i'm hanging out with them in public i look at them and start thinking of how big of a loser they are. They are not the roughest group in the school, they are the "in the middle" people, i dont like the hardcores becasue they are mean and druggies. But the peple im friends with have been my friends for the last 3 years and it feels strange now when I look at them and look at everyone else because everyone is a lot bigger than them and so am I. I am 6'3 185 lbs , i work out some too, and my best friend is the next biggest, hes 5'8 130 lbs.... everyone else is like 5'6 100 lbs... i really could use soem advice because I just feel completely strange about the entire thing and have low self confidence now. I mean... a big guy like me hanging out with a bunch of little shrimp?

lol yeah, i have a lot of friends but maybe 4 close friends, but i know how you feel about excluding. Imagine being that other person.... best and true friends are 2 people who think that their best friend (the other person) is the best out there and they couldnt get anyone any better and vice versa. Really, if you've ever been in a real tight friendship its true. anyways, imagine you are that girl and you are really the only thing that she has and feels good about. When you start hanging out with someone else... it puts fear in her heart that shes going to lose you and have nothing. I used to be in that posistion and let things just glide by... the next thing i know i compeltely lose that friend because they are hooked on eachother. Its as painful as a breakup .... sometimes worse, depending on how deep you are in the relationship.... hope you understand me.

those people that you call you friends, how do you know that thye really are? Really, i mean people are so deceitful and you can go a long time and never realize it. I had this best friend for 3 years and never even realized all the things he had done to me - every time i meet someone new they are always good in the start, but if you REALLY REALLY get to know them, then you find that they are just like anyone else. But if you keep all of your friends at a certain distance, then they are ok.... but then you are just leftout... and come on, dont you want a CLOSE friend?

gosh... i bet before long that the age you are considered an adult will be 15 lol, that is...after reading all the of these posts.

oh, and as for girlfriends .... thats not all true, like isaid, its true for some people but thats just the down point of view. Its all about finding the right people. The journey is difficult.

well i understand it to a point, really i mean.... you will make friends all throughout your life, but they wont be nothing like the ones you had while you were a kid, because life changes and you have more responsibilities. And i know from lots of experience that people do use you, theres not doubt about that, and as soon as they cant use you anymore they are gone, but that doenst make you useless. After highschool.... yeah your friends are gone, thye move on in life and go suck the blood out of other people, there are just people who are like that. I totaly understand what they are saying, so I say the H3ll with them! Just live your life for yourself and if you run accross a couple of good friends then hang on to them! Hope you guys understand me.