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No!! Dont only do it once! Its going to sound dumb, but if you only make eye contact once, she might be confused if you're looking at her or if it was just a quick glance in her direction because... a bird flew past or whatever reason. The best thing to do, I think, is just look at her -- if she's looking at you, keep eye contact for 3-4 seconds, look down, then look up at her again. If she isn't looking at you, just look away and try again a bit later. Its going to sound stupid, but it might take 2 or 3 times before she finally notices -- but these quick glances are alot nicer and more comfortable than being stared at for like, 5 minutes at a time. I agree! Can you imagine having someone stare at you? Glances are much better and have a suggestive nature

Omg this guy in my form room scrathches his private areas out in the open. I mean basically plays with himself, all the time. So un-attractive

Shinobe, you cannot judge a whole gender by what possibly one or two people in your town have done. It's just the same as not judging a race by what one or two people have done. These guys can treat them like s#!t and it's their choice wether they still like them. It has nothing to do with you or your opinions of their choices. You cannot judge wether a person is right or wrong by who they stay with. To me, you're not a nice guy because you're not respecting these girls decisions. You want them to do what *you* think is right. They are their own individuals and have to make their own mistakes and learn from them. You may want to listen to people that have been through all this. By assuming that because I'm only nearly 15, that I have nothing to say worth listening to, means that you'll miss out on alot. And for the record, a nice guy would respect a ladies decision and accept that no matter what size, colour, age or gender I am, I still have something to say worth listening to. And guys, women put up with your superficial cr*p so I don't think you should start jumping up at us about ours. antzca2000, I like dominant, not abusive, guys. Like we can go on the scary ghost ride train and I can cling to him, I dont want him fricking screaming and grabbing onto me and having me protect him. Maybe this has something to do with my subconscious. Evalution can't alway change the fact that for hundreds of years back in cavemen times the most dominant male got to impregnate the females. I'm guessing thats why some (I won't speak for everyone) still find this attractive.

It's just auto for me to not find long nails appealing, even if they *are* well taken care of. It's just something that I don't find attractive, because alot of guys I know *wouldn't* be bothered keeping them groomed if they were long.

Show me the proof, dude

I think guys with trimmed nails look more hygenic because short nails are so easy to keep looking healthy!

Its just, being female, I know that I spend heaps of time on my nails if I'm growing them to make them seem really well grromed. I have no idea wether guys spend time on their nails if they grow them, but non-groomed nails are very gross!

Woah! Those would be longer then mine! I personally can't stand the whole 'chewed-back-nail' look, but I don't think I've ever met a guy with longer nails then me. I would find it a bit odd and gross! Very curious too...

lmao! Sorry to laugh but this post is funny! I agree with Clueless788, it's all about showing that you have something good and if you don't want it, someone else will take it. Personally for me, I know that I do try to make a guy I like jealous, however I also know that being a jealous person ( ) I could not stand a guy I liked doing the same thing to me.

Can you define how long these nails are that you are talking about?

Hey Shinobe! I don't want to boast or seem like I'm so good, but I receive really high marks for everything I do, even if I slightly slack off. Alot of guys I know slack off when it comes to school some guy's give it a little try though, and to me, I like the fact that they put in the effort because I find that more appealing. However actual grades wouldn't really change my mind about a person (Although I'll admit that I like guy's who are carrer oriented with carrer's that are of a high standard in life.) So don't let you grades sand in the way of lurve

I'd like to point out that the only reason women can be somewhat superficial (and yes I'll admit that some girls take it *too* far) is because there is so much pressure women to look like models and be thin etc, thereforeeee we often feel (I cannot speak for everyone) that if we put so much effort into ourselves, the men we date should have similar standards about themselves. It's a two way street and women aren't the only ones who are superficial. As for saying that women go for men that don't deserve them, you cannot possibly speak for someone like that. If a woman likes someone, obviously she finds him or her appealing and you have no right to say that he doesn't deserve her if they are happy together because you are bitter. I sick of hearing about how women are so superficial from you guys who call yourself "nice guys". In my opinion you "nice guys" are being a bit jerk-y just because a relationship may not have worked out for you. Everyone finds different things attractive and just because you don't like some qualities that these "jerks" have, doesn't mean that a women out there won't find them attractive. (Just for the record I like nice guys, because a real nice guy doesn't behave the way you self-proclained nice guys seem to be behaving!) As for the original post, Shinobe give it a rest! God, if we could swear on enotalone I'd have a few choice words for you about some of your recent posts but I'll contain my anger and try to sound professional You can't win if you're not playing the game! You may know which cards to put down to win the prize money, but if you aren't even a contestant you can't walk away with anything! That's all I have to say!

God Shinobe! =_= You are so lucky I can't swear on enotalone or I'd tell you where you can shove your comment. I'm personally insulted that you have such a double standard! Girls cant loose their virginity by themselves! Although it's hard to get the big picture when you have such a small screen. I've seen so many people like you, but I had to pay admission last time. I'm so offended that you made that comment and basically called our generation of women wh_res. Alot of women plan to loose their virginity with a person they feel comfortable with; they dont just go to a bar and picking up some stranger. Make somebody happy, mind your own business and think about what you say before you go ahead and say it! Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time

Sadly women on average do have a harder time in life then guys. A lot of the time we are not given an equal chance BECAUSE we are women. ~Your but is never a factor in a job interview if you are male ~Dry cleaners and haircutters don't rob you blind if you are male ~Men never get a Period (this is something that we have to live with) ~Or PMT, PMS (cramps, mood-swings and other period related sight effects) ~Men never experience Child birth (and although this is optional, women are born with a need to reproduce) ~All of a mans orgasms are real ~Men don't have to lug a handbag of useful stuff around everywhere you go and worry about your tampons falling out ~Men don't have to worry about tampons at all ~Bathroom lines are always 80% shorter for male restrooms ~Mens last name stays put ~Men, the garage is all yours ~Women are expected to clean the house ~Women are expected to raise the children (sadly this is true) ~Men get treated like royalty when they are sick ~Men can be showered and ready in 10 minutes ~Men never get a reputation about how many times they have sex ~Women have to take care of all wedding plans ~Underwear for men can be as cheap as $10 for a three pack ~Men don't have to shave below the neck ~If you're female, single and in your 40's everyone notices ~Alot of countries won't let women be president ~Men can wear a white shirt to a water park ~Middle aged, big gut? No problem if you are male ~Car mechanics tell the truth to you if you are male ~Hotwax never goes near a mans pubic area ~Men never have their virginity 'taken away' ~Men have the same work with more pay ~Most insults like wh_re (etc) can only be used to offend women ~Gray hair and wrinkles add character to a man ~If you're a man it's OK to marry a girl much younger than you if they have money ~If you're male people never glance at your chest when you're talking to them ~Men can never be too tall ~Men can fart and not be labelled gross by their friends ~Men are expected to stink if they work out ~Women's clothes cost more ~Men can sit with your knees apart no matter what they are wearing ~Men can eat whatever they feel like and not be considered a pig ~Men on average have less body fat then women (less risk of cellulite)

Pornography turns me off. I see it as a way of treating women like objects rather then people (but thats just femministic me ). So it's good to hear that you are getting rid of it [-( As for talking to her, since it was her suggestion to have a study date, don't be to embarrassed about asking her about it. I'm sure she'll find your intentions flattering, and if not act as if there are plenty more women out there for you, even if you don't feel that way inside. This way you send her the message that she could miss out on a great guy. but hey, thats just me.

XDDD lol. It just seems so weird, sort of dirty in a way, even though I guess it's natural.

I agree.

I don't see the pleasure in masturbation Does anyone else feel that way? Maybe it's just an early teenager thing that I don't like the idea of putting my fingers inside my body.

Shinobie, grow some balls! Maybe if you stopped complaining about being a loser and did something about it, then you wouldn't be such a Mr. Ive-never-even-touched-a-girls-hand-before on every friggen board XP You probably come off as incredibly desperate to girls and thats why you aren't getting any.

I think it's worth a try. As I just posted on one of the boards in the kissing forum that you had been posting on, girls like guys with confidence, not for their looks. (Although I may havee said it a little bit meaner, heh.) If getting rid of your acne gives you confidence, you will feel better with yourself and act more confidently, thus making you more attractive and fun to be around.

I take that as an insult Shinobie. I'm a teenage girl attending high school and I'll tell you straight that girls aren't as shallow as you make us out to be. Just because you lack confidence does not mean that all teenage girls are shallow and wouldn't consider going out with you. Although, why would any one date you whilst your acting this way? You are continually beating yourself up on every board about trivial things. Girls like guys with confidence, and it may just happen that good looking guys have that confidence so that is why girls date them. Sure it helps to be good looking, but everyones idea of good looking is differnt. I say that no girl would date you while you're acting vulnerable and act with no confident. THAT'S your problem. XP

I'd just like to say that my comment before was not targeted at you, life_can_be_painful, but at the situation, because you seem to believe that this girl is acting as the girl you knew did and I was trying to show that if she had similar motives, how could she be trusted? Just because one girl out there has acted like that towards you, it doesn't mean that every time a girl with a boyfriend asks someone out for coffee as 'friends' that she will end up doing what the girl you knew did.

And what does this prove that this girls motives were? She stayed with her boyfriend and used him for a place to live. How can you ever fully trust this girl knowing that she has used a guy before to benifit her needs then dumped him once she got what she wanted? What makes you think that you were/are any differnt? What makes you so speacial, because I think that I'd like to know why you are so good that you think this girl wouldn't stab you in the back aswell, just as she did to him.