JonnyG

I answered a question today that someone asked here about how he is finding it difficult to be friends with a girl he wants more from. I am in a similar boat and it involves a girl who is 32 and im 23, she also has a daughter who i think is 8 now. My answer: "Im in a similar situation. Went out with this girl, well lady (She's 8 1/2 years older than me), last year. Got caught up in a sort of triangle as i found out later she was on a temp split up with her bf but they planned to get back together, and i got caught up unfortunately(he asked for the temp split, im guessing after 2 months she was not sure if they would get back together hence showed an interest in me). I was gutted . I've never fancied a girl so much, to me she is just so beautiful its crazy. After a few months of txing with the hope that it wouldnt last with her bf, it all went to pieces and she said goodbye basically. 9 months later with no contact and with me finally over her (pathetic really, i was only seeing her for 6 weeks and only saw her like 5 times, but thats all it took to realise she was something special) she tx me out of the blue to ask how i was. We got txing quite a bit, she told me she finished with the guy just after Christmas and hadent seen anyone for 5 months but had been thinking about me. Basically we got round to seeing each other again. Unfortunately, this time round i only saw her 4 times, before she got worried that she shouldn't be messing with me as im too young for her. Thing is, deep down i guess i agree with her. She should be looking for someone her own age and who is financialy secure as she told me for the reason we shouldnt see each other. Whereas for myself, if things were going great, how would i feel in 10 years time when im just over 30 and she over 40? and theres perhaps hot 20 year olds after me? So this time, the split was not as bad as we were both in agreement, although we have stayed in contact the last 2 months by tx and plan to meet up again. We both (well i said to her and she agreed) decided that it was stupid to stay away from each other as we both like each other, but both realise it can never be anything really serious, but that should not be a reason to never see each other. So now when she is out she plans to contact me to meet up. Good idea or bad? Probably bad. And how long will it be til she finds a guy her age she really likes and i wont be able to see her at all, or at best just as a friend. I couldnt just meet up with her as friends, maybe its selfish of me, but I fancy her too much. I can't help how i feel, although i know its not a great idea to see her, I find her too attractive, she makes me enjoy my life etc. Dam, i really need to find another Goddess." So there it is. I like this girl more than any other girl i have ever met before in my life. She is physically perfect. Personailty wise I have not had the chance to really get to know her well enough, but we get on fine. I worry ill never find anyone I like as much as her ever again, and im only 23 for crying out loud. So for your situation, u know how u feel and u seem happy enough with him. But does he feel the same and will he in 10 years time? Like i said, I am crazy about this girl i have seen, but even when i have never liked a girl as much as i like her, will it be the same in 10 years?

As every1 else has said, its apparently effected by what u tend to eat/drink. Can either be bitter or salty. The 1 time i tried myself, it was salty, cant say it tasted good

Some girl said Burberry Touch for men. Yep, got that one as an ex said she thought it was gorgeous. Saw a survey of it and all the girls love it, so thought id get some Also used tommy for years because i think its smells great, youthful.

Its just som1s fetish, thats all I fail to see why because som1 likes pantyhoses that that is a real problem? Lots of guys like women in stockings. Why do so many women like guys in uniforms? Firemen for example. I fail to see the fascination with that, but i can except it. There's pornsites that will have that pantyhose fetish and many other things. I bet u all have things that turn u on which others will think your weird about.

Just thought i'd mention: She's come back! 6 weeks of non contact and she phones me asking where i've been. I explained that I had blocked her on msn because i found it sad seeing her on it. So thought by blocking her I wouldn't know whether she was on or not and thereforeeee wouldnt bother me as much. I was just getting use to not seeing her at all when out of the blue yesterday she phones. She apologised and said she understood if I didn't want to talk to her anymore. Weve had a talk, got a few things straight. She wants everything to be back to normal again. I told her i don't mind but i'll be a bit warey for the next few months. She understands. Anyway, for anyone who read this thread and was curious if she would return, she has now.

Thats exactly what i was tryin to say. Metallica, i must say that you have more knowledge about this stuff at the age of 15 than 99% of guys have even at the age of 70 . Have you got Msn messenger/aim? I'd like to chat with you some day. Jonny, dude you should give up on this thread and also that chick. Its not like if stops talking to you thats the end of your life or something. Just take it as an experience, learn your lesson from it and move on. What lesson did you learn from this whole thing? hehe Im not learning anything new, just strengthening stuff i don't want to believe in. I've also pretty much decided to go along and meet up with this new girl, but i don't feel its a relationship type of thing. So i guess and ideal canditate for my first efforts at treat them mean and keep them keen. I mean, i can't lose, if she likes it then great, and if she don't well....move on to someone else

Probably true m8. Think we may both of been becoming too obsessed to be honest, she told me she was, and maybe i am too, just not physically saying it yet. But perhaps she realised this and thought that this silence was the answer to it. Just would of been nicer to go out with a better "goodbye" Again, thnx for every1s replies. You've been beautiful

"If someone told me they wouldnt do anything with me because of my race or religion, I wouldnt even talk to them again. What a waste of time and energy" U sound like my Irish friend. His attitude is why talk to a girl unless u want to have sex with her. I simply met this girl embarrassingly enough through yahoo pool ( i was just killing time between lectures). We just hit if off pretty much straight away. I didn't really fancy her until later on because then we got to really know each others personalties, sorry, im only human. Yes, i like her more than a friend, but i know nothing is going to happen. I have already said, i encourage her to go for these guys she tells me she fancies at school or on her street or in nightclubs. Im glad for her to have a bf, unfortunately they keep dumping her Heh, im not waiting for this girl, i have had a couple of gf's since i've known her and at present im currently deciding whether or not to go out with this girl who is showing interest. But why should i not talk to a girl who i think is attractive just because i know nothing is going to happen? Don't people go to school, work, gym and meet up with friends everyday who they fancy but know nothing is going to happen because they already have a bf or they simply dont fancy them and only like them as a friend? Oooooo, i paint a bad picture of myself here , if u were in my situation, u would understand it more. Anyway, im giving up on this thread but thx for the responses guys, i appreciate it.

hehe , the girl in question tells me the last 6 months and especially last month before she is quiet how much she "likes/loves/misses" me etc and when i appreciate it and say i really care back, i get shot down Quality.

I must add, i do love this silly world. Girls want a guy to show interest, but not too much interest, and when they dont get it they complain to their friends and when they do get it u flood them. Same thing applies to putting the ring on the finger. Most women have to wait longer than they hope to with their guy yet the guy is probably scared he'll frighten them away. How much of a stupid world do we live in where being nice isn't entirely good. Why don't men act like this. If we get a nice girl who cares about us we appreciate it.

You never talk about your ex's. IM NOT GOING OUT WITH THIS BELGUM GIRL!!!!! She is a friend. Can't u tell a friend about an ex? If not, who can u tell? *sigh* After a year of talking to a "friend" u can sometimes talk about ex's, and anyway, i talked about my ex way back in June and havent talked about her since, so don't bring that up as the reason And as for the flooding her with attention, maybe i did. Maybe she enjoyed it but thought the present that made her "so so so happy u have no idea" toppled it But i still think thats funny, because she flooded me with attention during the last talkative month from mid december to mid January, and at best i only equalled it, in fact, i couldnt even do that as she was barely on msn and i never phoned her til literally the other day and left a msg. So thereforeeee its a stupid hippocritical world Thx for your responses, but i don't think ill fully understand unless the girl in question talks more openly to me. But i've tx her and dont wish to contact her again til she either contacts me first or 2 months or so pass. In which case, i may just have get it off my chest to her in a letter and simply say how much fun we had that i can't believe she is so willing to throw it away, but heh, its upto her. I will wish her the best and prob remove her from my msn.

Small cute brunette with a volumptious body type all the way preferably

Ludicrous really isnt it. Dam M has signed on again. Since her net has obviously been fixed i've seen her on quite often. I do find it suspicious that in the year chatting to her, its almost always been her that has signed in and not her sister using her name. And now, its her sister using it all the time and not her because shes "busy"????? Dam im angry, but i've got to control it and try to not let it get to me. Its funny, when i told M about my ex and how she went back to her old bf, she said how much she hated my ex for hurting me. But at least i was going out with her, and it was an age difference problem (she was 8 1/2 years older), it wouldn't of worked, so the excuse was understandable, she made the better choice. M told me in the tx i received when i was asking her friend about why she was acting weird, not to think "i forgot about u or am being mean" (as well as the obvious "I miss u"). How ironic that 2 weeks later she just does this to me for no real reason, she seems to have more or less forgotten about me during the last 7 weeks bar about 4 days of msn chats and the tx i receive when she said "thankyou" for the present *omg, she noticed *. Like i will keep saying, after all the laughs we have had, the cheering up when shes sad, the helping with homework, the compliments that must of made her ego rocket, the great present i bought her (which i never saw her in) and I don't even get a "goodbye". The fact it cost me £60 to buy and send with b'day + valentines card and the hassle the post office gave me and taking a full hour qing to send it off to her and its not even worthy of a picture to be sent to me. ITS MOST DEFINITELY MEAN!!!! Unfortunately this has really dented my opinion of girls even more . Of all the girl's I've ever known she has definitely been on par with my most trusted. M wanted my msn password just before Christmas and i was a little hesitant to give it out because my password is more or less the same for everything that requires a password and I was curious as to why she wanted it. She was annoyed because I didnt trust her to give it to her straight away. Another funny thing to say after the girl I have trusted for a year has a present mysteriously vanish and then forgets to tell me that she is getting too busy to chat on msn. Honestly, the more i think about it, the more i feel angry and more let down i feel. I even chuckle about somethings like the above. I got to put it aside tho and not beat myself up about it as i havent done anything wrong apart from be a true friend Think i just may go along with your opinion pandara's box, i mean i have nothing to lose and all to gain i feel like these days right? I get a girl for a while and she might find my attitude infuriating and she will want to keep on going for me like other bad boys and even if they blow me out for good I won't have lost really as if i was nice i would of prob lost her anyway . Girls just like the adventure at younger ages, but hitting 30 they realise they want a different type of man, and this would be the time to be a nice proper gentleman.

Well, i've calmed down a bit. I've just txed her to basically say i understand that she is busy. That i am obviously sad and i am a bit confused considering how well we get on and her recent comments, that she would suddenly say this. But i understand that she is busy and i remember what it was like at her age and it was hectic. Then said that i hoped to see her around sometime and to take care and hoped her exams went well. Thats it now. I'll leave her alone. If she wishes to talk, she knows where to find me. Im sad, but less angry now. I still feel like i have been treated badly and she should of told me this and spent 5-10 mins on msn basically telling me this instead of sounding so cold on a msn msg, because it has come accross as feeling like a "I've had enough of u, i cba with msn anymore". And like i said, after a year of good laughs, comforting her when shes sad, helping with homework and buying her a great present, i just feel i deserved a better "goodbye" than this. Like i said, im not sure what she is thinking, but i know if i did this to her from June onwards, especially December to half way to January, she would be very upset. I kind of feel she has been selfish in that respect, but heh, this is life. My mum and dad told me "life isnt fair" and boy don't i know it now at 23 with all the stuff i've already gone through Just another 60 years to go or so lol pandaras box. It is funny. A world were if a girl digs a guy its all good. Then show a little interest back and they don't want u any more Its made all the more funny that girls often complain about men lacking commitment.....eh?....if u show commitment they don't even like it Anyway, the fact is we weren't even going out we was just a friends, but obviously liked each other more than just a friends, and weve both liked each other for a good 6 months i would say. She has even dreamt about me and how we went out together and kissed and all and she was saying how great it was . But we both know that when it comes down to it, were both just friends, and thats the way it would stay. Heh, it could just be a little rebelous stage for her , maybe she will msn me again soon, i don't know. I do hope tho that occasionally she will still chat to me every once in a while to catch up. O well, never mind. And Pandarabox, I wouldn't agree with your going out with 3 girls at once, but i do understand why u are doing it, I do worry about meeting someone myself and managing to get a stable relationship and marriage, with the way things are going with them. With my experience and friends experiences. Thats not to say all girls are a bit cr***y with their attitude, i've had some friends go out with great girls and then they treat them badly and dump them. Its sad I still have hope though, reading the comments some girls write here (hoping their all honest responses obviously) shows there are some great girls out there, u just need to find them EDIT: If any1 is curious, no, she hasen't tx back. *sigh*, never mind heh, got to look forward and all

Im not sure m8. But please dont knick it. I had a Gizmo avatar for a while that everyone thought was funny but then someelse used it so i had to swap to this.

lol yeah, they get away with it for being a girl *sigh* Just like they are allowed to use the guys toilets and get away with it. Its funny really, whenever myself or any friend i know has tried using the toilet in the girls, weve been shouted at on basically everytime to get out. Even more funny is that they used boxed off cubicles were u cant see anything (so to be honest whats the problem?), were as a guy has to stand at a urinal were a girl can look. And to finally make it histarically funny, these same girls telling us to get out are probably the same ones who use the guys toilets, so completely hippcritcal. But heh...there girls

Well, what i dreaded happened today. sorry, i thought id share it with u. I sent her an msn msg saying something like "Hi Im not sure if you are receiving my msgs or not. I have a feeling something is not right but hope u would tell me if something is wrong. Hope you have had a good day" And she replied something like: "My internet is fixed but I have been busy and my sister is often on it. NO you havent done anything wrong, i just don't have the time or the interest to go on msn" As i remember correctly, she told me she basically only went on msn because of me, so thereforeeee even though its not directly at me, i feel it might as well have been. I then absolutely choked and said "ok. Fair enough. Could you please do me a favour though and send me a pciture of you with my present " (yes, my amazing present which i never saw her wear ) She then went offline. Well, thats what u get for over a year of friendship. O and after she tells u for a month b4 hand that your basically the best thing since sliced bread. during the month upto it i've been phoned, txed and msned loads being told "I love u"/ "I really really really like you"/ "When my msn is fixed we will chat everyday. I have missed you" and a long tx apology i wont list saying she was sorry for her lack of effort to talk to me recently and that again she missed me. etc etc. O, and bought her a present she has always wanted and has made her "so so so happy, u have no idea". Possible reasons: Her hormones Her sister wrote it (Can't believe she would of) Some test to check out my reaction (*sigh*) She really has lost interest talking to me (God knows why, after all the fun we have had and her recent comments) She actually really likes me too much and is worried about her feelings and thereforeeee thinks cutting me out will stop the issue (???) She may well come back and start talking to me again in a week or 2, a month or maybe longer. If she doesn't, instead of trying to get her on msn, i will write a letter explaining all, and hopefully even if she doesnt go back to msn, will reply explaining a bit more why she suddenly went from caring about me so much, to not caring with no real reason. If I had done this to her up until recently she would of been in tears. The one time before Christmas i was odd with her, she got very upset and told me how much she cared for me and was worried about me. I don't mind chatting to her less, hell, like i said, when it comes to msn, its her 2/3rds of the time trying to get hold of me. Sometimes im too busy to talk. I can except she is busy adn she can't be on msn as much, but not being able to chat to a friend who has been so good to you for over a year its just plain right c**p. My brother has told myself to not beat myself up about it. But im finding it hard. I know many people reading this will think "just get over it man", but if u knew just how much we have talked and how much of a good time we have had being friends, u would understand. Anyway, i'll stop my moaning now, and let the thread die

Well, it aint looking good, i come home today, she is on msn, im trying to talk to her but she isnt replying. I asked her friend if her internet was fixed and she "YES it is". Great, even her friend is now giving me grief just because im trying to talk to someone i have been friends with for over a year and been an absolute top guy with her and now she treats me like im barely there so I raise concern *sigh* . I barely talk to her friend, am always pleasant to her but i asked if M's internet is fixed twice in the space of a week, in which once she didnt reply and the next time i get the above message. All the more funny that 6 weeks ago she was asking if i could drive so I could go to london and meet them if they went for a day trip there through the euro tunnel. ho ho ho, it just gets better and better. Honestly, im so sick of girls these days im struggling to hack it. No point been nice anymore. My whole life I just seemed to have witnessed the unbelieveable with girls. The guy at school which all the girls backstabed yet they went out with the guy if he asked. Same happened at my older brothers school. The guys who treated girls real bad but craved for more, I had a few friends like this. My brother's ex who randomly decided one day to give up with him and sleep with like 4 guys in a 2 weeks (inc a guy my bother knew she didnt fancy) and then hoped to get back with him after. These examples to name a few. I have a girl interested in me now, and I hate to say it, but she is also young (17) not sure when she's 18, but I think soon. I am seriously considering just going out with her and just treating her badly just because it seems the must thing to do. And if she loves it great, and if she doesnt i don't care!!!! However, just been on the phone to my younger brother and after shouting all my anger to him, he has convinced me to be nice to this girl. Not even sure what i want, I'll probably tell her it is not a good idea to meet because of her age and also because I would like an F-buddy more than a relationship right now I think in my life. So, I don't want to hurt her. Nice timing there, get to the end of my post and M has left msn. Yes, she could still have issues with it, but who knows. I left her a msg on her mobile (first time I have done this). As someone so nicely put not long ago in replying to a thread in this forum in realising the world: "I play golf against a mate who cheats, so i lose" "I go to an interview and be honest so i dont get the job" "I treat girls nicely so thats why I don't have a gf" Honestly, its all starting to make perfect sense Might as well go the gym now, try to get some aggression out. This world is really looking to become one big joke! I hate myself for not appreciating it enough, but im really struggle to find reasons to appreciate it.

Quite Hopefully she is on today when i get back from work and hopefully her msn is fixed so I can try to talk. I would rather she would tell me where to go and why than just stay silent for no reason. Driving me insane at the mo. I do understand why she has been quieter due to her msn being in a mess and her busy with exams and all and me at work all the time, but like she even said herself, the main thing that bugs me is that she doesnt even respond to tx msgs and when the occasional chat has happened it can still be a good laugh and she has even intiated some of them (in fact, I usually wait for her to say "hi" because at the mo i almost feel embarrassed trying to say it to her first) which shows that she is still interested in talking, but she just not acting herself these last 7 weeks.

Sorry, can i also point out that since i've known her she has had 2 bfs and I have told her to make more efforts with guys that she likes cause she is lonely. So im actively getting her involved with other guys she fancies and vice versa i tell her about the girls that I like. During the times she is with thes guys, she still chats to me. Sorry, im just trying to point out, we really are just friends. But friends can still find each other attractive. Thanks for your reply tho DN, please don't think im having a go at you mate. Feel free to reply.

Please don't think im putting all girls/women in the same basket. I apologise, this is really long and I know most people will take one glance at the size and think "no thanks" to reading it, but I would appreciate it. I really want to get some anger out of my system. A girl has never confused me so much. I have known a girl from msn for over a year. Met just before Christmas 2003. During this time we have chatted all the time to each other. Especially from June onwards. We use webcams so we know what each other look like. She is very pretty. And she has said she thinks im good looking. She is always asking me to use the webcam so im assuming she truly believes this and I have told her enough that I think she is hot. However, she is Jewish anyway and believes in marrying another Jew, which is fair enough. She is in another country as well, but the whole point of my thread will explain that this is besides the point though. We probably talked 3-4 times a week on msn from anywhere from a quick 2 mins to 3 hours or so. We have a good laugh most of the time. Its not always great conversations (what can u expect when u talk so often, I can't even think of stuff to tell my dad when he rings me once a week) but the fact is its just nice to see each other. She has told me stuff she says she has never told anyone else (sexually related), not even her closest friends at home. She even decided to take things one step further in June and got me to phone her. We had a good chat and she was going on about loving my accent. Her's was nice as well, nice French accent. Occasionally we would talk by phone between June to Christmas. She called me more. It got to November and our conversations got better and better. We had great chats, really had a good laugh. She loves how much I make her laugh. I would sometimes help her with her English homework, or cheer her up if she had had a bad day etc. She started to say things like "You really should know something" and I would reply "I should?" and she said "I really really really like you". She then went away just after Christmas and before going she was saying that she felt she was becoming obsessed with me. While she was away she would tx me regularly. And when she finally got back home she started to call me quite often as well as her mum had got a sim card that was good for calling people abroad. As always, our conversations were great. It then got to mid January, my work started making me do some late shifts but during that first week she called a couple of times. Then it all started to just go downhill. I have no idea why and the frustration of not knowing why is hurting me more than the sadness I feel for hardly seeing her. She was on msn less than normal the next week, though the 1 time I saw her it was a real great conversation again like nothing was wrong we were both laughing over the webcam having such a good time. And again the conversation ended and she said " I love you". I don't think she meant it as a full on "I love u" but a "u are a great friend" comment. The next week then past by and again, she just wasen't on msn basically. I tx her but she just didn't bother replying. My birthday came up and her present never turned up. She phoned me but seemed like she had nothing to say. I said I would see her on msn after. We were on msn chatting and my dad called to say "happy birthday" and all. By the time I got off she was really distracted she seemed (saw on webcam again), she just took a while to respond. I really couldn't think of much to say. She was having a good laugh talking to someone else. I asked her who else she was chatting to? She then said this "cute guy" from her school was on and she was chatting to him. I felt real hurt to be honest. Not only had she not been around the week before my birthday but on my birthday she barely could think of anything to say on the phone and then basically let me do all the typing on msn as she was too distracted by this "cute" guy (She had mentioned this guy before and I said she should go out with him, but she said he was only 14 so too young). I gave up when I felt she just couldn't be bothered to talk to me. She said to me not to go but I said I best go because I had other things to do and she seemed to be having a laugh with this other guy. Unfortuntely, she has already told me she loves jealous guys as it makes her feel special. *sigh* A couple of days later it was her birthday. I bought her a present she had always wanted, an authentic Von Dutch cap. Not only had it been expensive, it was a lot of hassle to get hold of in the first place and I had to waste my hour lunchbreak sending it off to her. (also had sent a Valentine card with the present) I phoned her and had a quick 5 mins chatting, * ouch * £1 a min mobile to mobile. It went ok. And a couple of days later she tx me to say thanks for the present and her words were something like "Thank you so so so much. U have no idea how happy I am. Hope to see you before you go. Love u! xxx" Of course another couple of days go by and she isn't on msn and I send her a tx saying I would miss her during my time away (I was going skiing for a week). A reply never came back. I went for a week, came back and had no missed calls and no txs. I really started to struggle to understand why she was acting like this. I sent a tx when I got back, but only received a tx 3 days later from her, in which she asked a question so I replied and also asked a question, but again no reply. Another 5 days or so and I was nearly tearing my hair out. The rare times she was on msn she seemed too busy to talk. I eventually asked her friend on msn what was going on and why she was acting like this? She explained that she didn't know, but told me they were real busy with exams. She also suggested that maybe I was being too nice to her (Yep, the dreaded good guy problem again), but I told her that I was not msning her or txing her any more (well, how could i on msn? she was never on basically) than she had been to me before going all quiet. I also wasen't phoning her like she phoned me. She suggested that I should not worry and that the girl in question (call her "M" from now on) "really likes" me and that I should wait for her to come to me. The next day I get a tx from M saying how sorry she was, but she had been real busy with work and her msn had been playing up, but said "that is still no excuse I could of tx u". She said not to worry and that she did really miss me and she had not forgotten about me or anything and when she had finished her exams she would be more back to normal. She told me a guy was coming round to fix her msn problems as well the next week. I felt so relieved that she had acknowledged that she had not been fair on me and was genuinely sorry about it. The next night ( a Friday), she said "Hi" on msn and I was meant to be going out, but she said she really wanted to talk, so I of course stuck around a little longer so we could have a chat (I mean, I was desperate to talk really). Another great chat and again after 20 mins of laughing she said "when I get my msn fixed we will chat everyday" and "I love u, maybe too much". For the next load of days I felt much better. We got to the next week, but I was working lates Monday-Wednesday so didn't see her. It came to Thursday and it was obvious she had msn problems still. She was online but couldn't get an answer out of her. I then went pub and she msned me while out (so, she obviously wanted to talk to me, great), but by the time I got back again she had problems or something because I replied but she didn't. I sent another tx, but again no reply. Tried to get her on Friday as well, but couldn't get a response. Comes to Sunday, she is online and I asked her how her Saturday night was. And she was like "What the ****? Where have you been?" (In a "im missing u type of way, not having a go at me". I explained I tried to get hold of her, but she must have been still suffering problems on msn. She told me she wasen't even online Friday so didn't know why msn said she was, perhaps her sister was on. Her friend confirmed this to me that her computer was a mess. What bugs me is I had sent her a tx yet again that thursday and yet again she didn't reply. So, its back to the present week. So far Monday to Wednesday have gone by, and she has not been on msn. Her computer is still probably bust, so that's fair enough. Yet again, I tx her asking when it was meant to be fixed today and said at the end of it "….am I not worth the cost of a tx anymore? because since mid way through January when things went weird, she has only replied to like 2 out of 8 txs. I am completely buffled. I am sssooo angry because I am so confused why???? The last 7 weeks I have hardly talked to her. I haven't even seen her wearing my dam present I got her yet because of the problems of not being able to get her on msn and if she has been on msn she has been too busy to chat or been round at her aunts (Friday nights sometimes) where no webcam. M at the beginning of the year was txing me, phoning me, and telling me she was addicted to me basically. We had such a great laugh during the last year, especially last 6 months and especially the month before she went so quiet on me. She couldn't seem to get enough of me. Now out of the blue nothing has changed but she has just gone all "I don't care about u anymore" attitude. Please don't read some of my comments and say "heh man, she says how much u mean to her" etc, because I am lucky to see her once a week now where as before I saw her 3-4 times a week on msn. True, im working now so see her less on msn because of some late shifts and also her msn is messed up the last few weeks, but even before it messed up she has been quiet and she does have a mobile to tx/call with. The weird thing though is that when we have talked we have had a good laugh as usual. She wouldn't bother talking to me on msn if she didn't care, but she still does occasionally (and yes, she intiates the conversations as well) and we still have a great time together. Its now over 5 weeks since my birthday and still never received the present I was supposedly sent. Never sent a valentines card either (not that im expecting this). The least I would of thought she would do if she really did send something is ask me a bit more often if it had arrived yet and sound a bit more angry that it had not. A simple card on my birthday would of meant a lot, but alas, nothing. As for calls, she hasent since my birthday. As for tx's, she just doesn't send any anymore. And barely replies to any I send. Including today's tx asking her if she could answer my previous question about when her msn would be fixed and wasent I worth txing basically anymore? I honestly would not be surprised if she gets her msn fixed and she starts talking to me like this 7 weeks never happened. Unfortunately im scared it won't happen. I care about her a so much, that's why I am so angry and sad, but I am more angry because of confusion than I am sad now. Its just plain crazy. Im not even going out with her for crying out loud, so its not like im being too much of a nice guy and so im being dumped, im a dam good friend, that's all. How many people boot their friends out for being overly nice???? Exactly, no one. Add more insult but im now 23 and shes only 17 . Yes, young I know, but we are only friends, and I do actually prefer older women, but not only is she so pretty but she has a great personailty (obviously up until recently) and accent so "yes" I do fancy her, but she has known this a good while. Most 17 year old girls would be over the moon to chat to someone my age. At least the girls at my school were. Unfortunately I am typing this and I don't know what I want to hear, as sad and pathetic as its sounds, a bunch of sympathy right now sounds nice. But im sure most people will read this and because I can't explain the relationship we have properly on this website, people will probably make false opinions as to why and blame me that I have done something wrong. I can't stress enough that I haven't really done anything different apart from make her "so so so happy you have no idea" from buying her a present recently. A friend suggested it may even be her hormones going mental and so she is acting like this. Perhaps with her msn messing her around so much and how busy she is with work so we haven't spoken properly much that she is forgetting how much of a good time we had. But her exams are over now, and still nothing. I don't know what to do . Hopefully her msn will be fixed soon and she will be on more regularly. Hopefully tomorrow as im working early on Thursday and Friday I may be able to get hold of her, but im not sure if her msn is fixed. I just want to ask her "WHY!!!!??????", she seems to care but not care at the same time. The only person who can truly answer this though as her I guess.

Don't worry mate. Your not alone. I refuse to. Why? Because i don't want to make a tool of myself. Almost all girls can dance because when on the dance floor they can just shuffle their boobs and backsides and it turns us guys on. Almost no guy can dance....at least well. How many go to the dance floor and dance badly? Loads of them. The fact is, I don't want to embarrass myself because "I aint no John Travolta", and thats the line i tell girls who try to get me to dance. Fact of the matter is, I wouldnt get a girl to do something if she didnt want to do it because it embarrassed her. I hope they would do the same for me. It is REALLY annoying, I would love to be a great dancer. It makes u look good, it makes u have more chance with the ladies, u have more fun on nights out. But unfortunately, apart from when i was drunk at 16-19, i just havent bothered since, cause i know im bad at it. Simple fact is, if u get a girl who likes u and then she watches u dance bad, dont expect her to hang about. My mate has lost a few girls because of his dancing, nuff said.

Well, its going to be different for everyone. Turn on's : Foreplay, Kinky underwear, Experimentation, Geniune noises confidence in themselves and me. Turn off's: Fake noises, screamers , if they started to talk about other things like the gardening while having sex Do men open their hearts during sex? Some may do, others may say it to get what they want.

It could be a natural body reaction to the abnormal feeling of having a penis in the rectum. The body may believe something is wrong and try to get rid of the contents of the intestine quicker, just like when u have bad food your body gets rid of the food quicker i.e. u get the runs. Maybe with a bit more time her body will adapt and she will not suffer these problems. I certainly do not believe its uncommon side effect as i have read it before. Just a thought