arwen Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Even people who have quite obviously done it deny it profusely, even when the evidence is stacked up against them. Honestly, how many women are gonna come on here and vote yes? This poll tells us nothing. It would only work if it was anonymous and more people were asked. The poll is not a good statistic because of the reactions on the thread that create a bias to the acceptable answer. But the thread is very useful for people who are in the situation where they are not agreeing with their partner about having kids nonetheless. There is no scientific aim here. Link to comment
Huntress0527 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 It scares me that there are women out there that would do this to men. Can anyone say entrapment? Link to comment
Samedy Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I think another way to phrase the question, would you try to keep a man by "accidentally" getting pregnant? The poll would probably have the same results.. People do it.. When people are calm, they know the moral answer is "no"; desperate times though.. Link to comment
ut804 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Everyone (the man and the woman) should be responsible for their own birth control. Men could poke holes in condoms, so women should take the pill to be safe. Women could forget to take the pill, or could mistakingly think they are infertile, so men should wear condoms. And men should only use their own condoms to ensure that women don't poke holes in them. So in other words, women should do their part, and men should do their part to prevent pregnancy. It should both be their responsibility. If you don't want kids then you should be responsible for your own birth control just to be sure. Then there would be no "accidents' Link to comment
Batya33 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Everyone (the man and the woman) should be responsible for their own birth control. Men could poke holes in condoms, so women should take the pill to be safe. Women could forget to take the pill, or could mistakingly think they are infertile, so men should wear condoms. And men should only use their own condoms to ensure that women don't poke holes in them. So in other words, women should do their part, and men should do their part to prevent pregnancy. It should both be their responsibility. If you don't want kids then you should be responsible for your own birth control just to be sure. Then there would be no "accidents' Yes there might be. No birth control is 100%. Link to comment
The_Seeker Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If a woman wants to get pregnant, all she have to do is go to the sperm donor center. Ta-da! But before she could do that, maybe she might want to divorce her husband and give her the reason. For some reason this is reminding me of a movie with JLO in it. She was single and wanted a family so she went to the sperm donor center. Link to comment
OptomisticGirl Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 The problem with that is it costs $$$ - why would a woman pay big $$$ when she could just 'oopsie' and forget a pill and have a baby the old fashioned way? Link to comment
ut804 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 If a woman wants to get pregnant, all she have to do is go to the sperm donor center. Ta-da! But before she could do that, maybe she might want to divorce her husband and give her the reason. For some reason this is reminding me of a movie with JLO in it. She was single and wanted a family so she went to the sperm donor center. Isn't it a lot more complicated than that? I mean I never looked into it but I am assuming it must cost a lot of money and don't they have to approve you? Like I'm sure if you didn't have a good job they wouldn't let you? I don't know... Link to comment
Batya33 Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Isn't it a lot more complicated than that? I mean I never looked into it but I am assuming it must cost a lot of money and don't they have to approve you? Like I'm sure if you didn't have a good job they wouldn't let you? I don't know... It is not cheap and it doesn't require approval just like I didn't need approval or a license to decide to get pregnant the "natural" way. Link to comment
ut804 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 It is not cheap and it doesn't require approval just like I didn't need approval or a license to decide to get pregnant the "natural" way. That's interesting, you would think it would be the same for adoption? Whats the difference? If I wanted to adopt a child I'm sure they wouldn't let me because I don't have a steady job and live in a small house with my family. right? Link to comment
Batya33 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 That's interesting, you would think it would be the same for adoption? Whats the difference? If I wanted to adopt a child I'm sure they wouldn't let me because I don't have a steady job and live in a small house with my family. right? Because you're adopting a child who is already in the world. With sperm donors you're simply asking to be a biological mother through artificial insemination. You're asking for sperm, not a living child. I agree that there are times when the bio/adoption distinctions seem not to make much sense but in this situation it does. Link to comment
OptomisticGirl Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 That's interesting, you would think it would be the same for adoption? Whats the difference? If I wanted to adopt a child I'm sure they wouldn't let me because I don't have a steady job and live in a small house with my family. right? Because you aren't adopting your own child. If people were going to put restrictions on who could be biological parents to their child MANY people should be restricted from even conciving... Link to comment
chickydoodle Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 There should be a law against entrapment.! My ex cheated ( made a mistake - lonely while i was away for a year). The girl lied about contraception - admitted this freely 'cos she wanted a baby........The ensuing heartache and distress for all concerned is beyond belief. He has left her. She admits she at least got half of what she wanted......... I hate her for it! Link to comment
Unknown1607307972 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 I consider myself childfree but even if I wasn't I'd never ever would trap a guy like that. If I was desperate for a child I'd try to adopt on my own, I wouldn't want to bring a child into the world where their father was tricked into being a parent. I think deliberately tricking a guy into fathering a child with you is a horrible thing to do. Link to comment
ut804 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Because you're adopting a child who is already in the world. With sperm donors you're simply asking to be a biological mother through artificial insemination. You're asking for sperm, not a living child. I agree that there are times when the bio/adoption distinctions seem not to make much sense but in this situation it does. Yes but it will become a real child. Sure we can all be biological parents... but this is different than conceiving naturally because we have to go to a special place to get it. i don't know how to explain it. Look at Nadya Suleman (sp?). How is she allowed to have 16 kids and no steady job? That's not natural. I wish i could explain it better. sorry to get off topic... Link to comment
OptomisticGirl Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 The same reason people have one child and no job the natural way - you can't police people when it comes to their OWN reproductive organs. You may not be conceiving the child naturally but you are still conceiving. Link to comment
yeawutever Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Actually if he doesn't want kids ever it's really a blessing to me. I'm dying to find a man that would marry me but wasn't ever interested in kids. I don't wan't kids ever either. Link to comment
Stay_home Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 It's scary because it happens, but you don't know who's doing it. Link to comment
Seraphim Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I don't see this 40% happening like the article said. Link to comment
OptomisticGirl Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Even if it's only 20%, that's still a large number of women who do this. The numbers mean nothing to me - although with the amount of women I know personally who HAVE done it I can believe the 40% - for me it's the FACT that it is done. Link to comment
gingerlemon Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 If your SO didn't want kids (yet or ever), would you lie to him about being on birth control to trick him into getting you pregnant? Never, never, ever. Sounds like a complete recipe for disaster to me. Link to comment
Seraphim Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Even if it's only 20%, that's still a large number of women who do this. The numbers mean nothing to me - although with the amount of women I know personally who HAVE done it I can believe the 40% - for me it's the FACT that it is done. Oh I believe it is done. But I do not believe it is 40% over all in all age groups everywhere. Link to comment
OptomisticGirl Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 Oh I believe it is done. But I do not believe it is 40% over all in all age groups everywhere. Not in all age groups no, but OVERALL as a population of women ranging frm the young to the old? I can believe that. Link to comment
Firiel Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 It's terrible that it's done at all, even if it's just a small number. But 40% seems way over the top to me. I wonder about the group they surveyed and if it was a fair cross-section of the population. Link to comment
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