Shinobie

Padreamer why do u think ur below average i personally think ur really pretty in my opinion ,dont let other people put u down if they say that because ur not at all.I think ur more like what people call beautiful instead of hot which iswhat everybody wants, i think there is a difference between these words.Things have been going great have been talking with the girl at work and stuff a lil bit still an she flirted a couple of times again except i feel flat once when i tried to do something flirtacious but o well all i have to do is learn.I think ive just had bad start from this depression and need to learn everything i can about girls,dating,and love. How i look at it in a good way is that i always end up procrastinating anyways and i always cram everything in such lil time and catch up thats what i need to do I found out that she definitely has a boyfriend by when he came in and hey he looked tall and lanky just like me so maybe i have an ok chance with her with that just as a little added bonus,if they ever break up but nah who am i kidding but theres always hope.Its amazing how a girl can feel just by exchanging eye contact and smiling. She was walking up the cooks line and now since i actually make eye contact with girls she smiled and i smiled back it makes u feel good for some reason to that with any person but with a nice beautiful girl it makes u feel nervous and happy at the same.So ill continue talking to her in a friendly way and wont stop trying to improve.It feels great im actually getting some attention froma girl and she is like the first one ive gained this much from because i actually make eye contact and smile now.So it will feel good when i become friends with this girl and advance in the world of women and gain more experience in how to act around them

U should open one padreamer it might be fun .U can probably help lots of people like some uf almost hopeless males like us but we try and i want to keep on trying.Ill try to talk to this girl tonight at work is she is there and bring up some great conversation and maybe try to flirt in a friendly way like she did a couple of times yesterday.My friend flirts so extrmely immaturely yet girls like it and they always liek him whys this? hesays like when they r talking to him about something important at work he'll say "ya,we're married" all fast and funny like and they laugh and think its funny.Im probably just quite jealous that hes able to make girls like him right away but he does not use it to good morals.He dates like off and on so muhc breaks up like right away never is serious bout anything. he jokes he says have to do with his "small head" and its like he always thinks with that.Isnt this a stupid comment he said about life?What he said was "If u look at it all lifes goal is and love is to get into somebodies pants.Thats blatent bullcrap i think love consists of someone who is always there for you and never gets mad.Someone u can go through the hard times with and someone u can stare straight into there eyes and say "i luv u" its so much more.

dont worry ctgirl coming from a guys opinion i hate arogance too i cant stand it.I cant stand the fact that someone can liek themselves so much to say such stupid comments.Im in the same boat as u arogance makes me mad and annoyed i personally think its a weakness for some insecurities.

Well actually i can tell a couple times of girls flirting with me but barely any and actually that girl at work flirted a couple of times today of course in a friendly way.Im really bad at flirting and dont know how to respond when a girl flirts with me in any way.How do girls like guys to flirt with them like i dont really know how to well never really gained any girl skills in my lifetime but o well thats why i come to u guys to aks questions

How my parents found out i had depression is that i popped 25 pills a couple of weeks ago trying to kill myself but then i became afraid and went to the hospital and they took a bloodtest after treating me.The doctor said he thinks that i suffer from depression and he put me on this stuff called lexoprin.Ya depression sux i just think of the negative kind of like i think there never has been one girl that has flirted with me ever since i started liking girls.I think of things like that out of no where and it make sme more depressed its lame.

Well some people ask me how can depression actually be that bad and how can it effect u.They just dont understand it and they think that people r weak who cant control it but we cannot its an imbalance in the mind of seratonin and the tranfser of it between neurotransmitters. Im just gonna talk about a story that involves depression.Well a couple of months ago me and my friends went out with my friend john on his birthday and 2 girls which one was johns gf.That night the other girl never really seemed attracted to me or anything and she put most of her attention at my friend richard.I came home that night feeling pretty down but not way to down.Well my friends set me up to go out with her again saying that she prolly didnt like my friend richard and she said he was short or something so i felt ok and went out with her,my friend john and his gf.We were gonna meet up with my friend richard and his friends at the 12 o clock showing of spider man.Well everything was going ok till i started to run out of ways to try to start conversation so she was prolly not having that swell of a time although my friend john like hardly talks at all.Well we got to the spider man 2 showing and she sat away by the other guys laughing and having a great time while i felt alone and stupid just wanting to go home.We got their early at about 10 2 hours before spider man 2. So i walked around the theatres parking lot since it wa so huge.Just thinking to myself maybe i was never ever suppose to have a gf or someone to love.Maybe god just wants other people to have those types of relationships and mayeb im just soem peon who was sent here to fight for my country and die for no exciting life at all.IN depression u feel so hopeless i felt nothing at all but pain.Its true pain and it doesnt feel good at all it feels like theres nothing inside and something is yanking at you it does not feel good.So I did that for 2 hours feeling bad about myself and feeling just really really pathetic, i just couldnt help it depression makes u feel so extremely hopeless.I went into watch the movie and i sat away from the bunch in the front row.I got home and i jsut laid on my bed for 15 minutes feeling like one of the most pathetic things on this planet.Depression affects u badly and dont think its something people like us can cope with without drugs because i need these.Its true pain that hurts u on the inside its a horrible feeling that has ate me away on the inside for the last 7 years.It brought me to trying to commit suicide a couple of weeks ago it sux.Just wondering if other people feel the same way sometimes just really down? _________________

Imma put that post about depression the health,mind,body forum because some people dont understand depresisont hey dont think its bad.Like people tell me how can depression effect me but i try to tell them it can its just that stupid transfer of seratonin that is unbalanced and crappy doest let my mind think happily.

Ya thanks but how i found out she had boyfriend i think is cause there was a guy waiting out there in a car then when she left he was gone so ya .Buit it might of been a rare coincidence u never know but o well she seems like she can be a really great friend.But ya i talked with her we both smiled a bit and she needed some help in some things and asked her how everything has been going.Ya i think girls r a thing that has been a problem with my depression because i started becoming depressed when i started going into the start of puberty in life.When girls started affecting my life and what not and how they have put me down in the past and how they have always made me feel bad.How everytime i like a girl she always ends up liking that same guy and never likes me.Maybe my friend just has way better looks or something.They might think he is a great guy but he is a really compulsive lier and has money management problems.PLus hes one of those guys thats likes to think with his small head sometimes.My mind just cant stop thinking bout girls it is just that stupid instinct that bothers me and it does nothing but make me depressed.Girls r a waste of time for me cause all they really do for me is make me disappointed and depressed liek i said.

*How depression feels and how bad it can actually be for people who dont undertand it* Im just gonna talk about a story that involves depression.Well a couple of months ago me and my friends went out with my friend john on his birthday and 2 girls which one was johns gf.That night the other girl never really seemed attracted to me or anything and she put most of her attention at my friend richard.I came home that night feeling pretty down but not way to down.Well my friends set me up to go out with her again saying that she prolly didnt like my friend richard and she said he was short or something so i felt ok and went out with her,my friend john and his gf.We were gonna meet up with my friend richard and his friends at the 12 o clock showing of spider man.Well everything was going ok till i started to run out of ways to try to start conversation so she was prolly not having that swell of a time although my friend john like hardly talks at all.Well we got to the spider man 2 showing and she sat away by the other guys laughing and having a great time while i felt alone and stupid just wanting to go home.We got their early at about 10 2 hours before spider man 2. So i walked around the theatres parking lot since it wa so huge.Just thinking to myself maybe i was never ever suppose to have a gf or someone to love.Maybe god just wants other people to have those types of relationships and mayeb im just soem peon who was sent here to fight for my country and die for no exciting life at all.IN depression u feel so hopeless i felt nothing at all but pain.Its true pain and it doesnt feel good at all it feels like theres nothing inside and something is yanking at you it does not feel good.So I did that for 2 hours feeling bad about myself and feeling just really really pathetic, i just couldnt help it depression makes u feel so extremely hopeless.I went into watch the movie and i sat away from the bunch in the front row.I got home and i jsut laid on my bed for 15 minutes feeling like one of the most pathetic things on this planet.Depression affects u badly and dont think its something people like us can cope with without drugs because i need these.Its true pain that hurts u on the inside its a horrible feeling that has ate me away on the inside for the last 7 years.It brought me to trying to commit suicide a couple of weeks ago it sux.

Wow my pills havent been helping me as much as i thought they would tonight.I could feel my depression setting in a little bit again but then i controlled it.I feel as thought i should not care about women anymore i should just give up and not care anymore i mean im close to 18.What i wanna do is join the army get into the action and think in my mind if i die then i was not meant to marry a women and if i live maybe i was just a way to put it into gods hands(dont mind my talking its just the sid eof depression filling in).Well tonight i found out i think(not sure)that that girl had a boyfriend but the thing that made me feel bad is if she didnt she was checking out my friend richard all the time.She was very attracted to him is what somebody was saying she couldnt keep her eyes off of him although I talked with her and showed that imma nice guy.Just another girl out of so MANY that always go for him they never ever like me.Too me its starting to seem like that theres nothing good fo girls in my life but only to dissappoint and depress me.No offense to any fo u nice girls that have a true nice heart but girls r no good at all in my life and i need to put them away.Some doctor or soemthign needs to make a "forgot about women pill" that would be nice!For all of u people who really dont understand it to well and how it can actually feel so bad imma describe depression in my next reply.It can get so bad that u actually feel like killing urself which i actually did a few weeks ago by popping pills depression can be very painful.

Ya i had nothing against girls who do that to have a good time and have some great fun and to meet some nice guys who u can have a relationship with.But the ones that go to just have sex and mess around i disrespect and thats the impression most of those type of girls give off.But ya theres nothing wrong if u do it just to have a good time.

I think one of the biggest girls to avoid is the type of girl that flirts with everybody and just cant keep to one person.The type of girl that constantly looks around to go out with a guy for like a week then break up with him because she just cant just stay situated with one person.Definitely the girls that r into the whole party scene where they go to get drunk and party all the time.And for us type of guys that r shy and stuff i think the huge personality girls that like attention constantly and r just so hard to give them a fun time r ones we should avoid.Cause i have been out to the movies with one of them before .

Ya like when i read this stuff on other posts like to tell if a girl is interested in you to maybe talk and stuff.Like they said a girl is interested to talk sometime if she looks at you for like 2-4 seconds then looks away and then she looks back again for a couple of seconds then looks away or is that just her seeing if your looking at her or is she usually interested?Cause that girl from work has done that but i am not all that sure what all the clues about body language is.

K thank you for posting padreamer and ya it does really sound like u have to know somethign about someone to truly love them.Maybe this year when i do get to go to school i can talk with her and really get to know her and see if my intuition is really what it thinks it is.Ya why do u have to be high john like she was talkign about man?It gives u a bad appearance to other people and man i dont want u to do something like that because u seem like a great person

Ya this new girl at work i was exhanging smiles with her a bit kind of laughed a couple of times.We talked a couple of times and exchanged names and she seemed pretty nice.There was one time where i looked at her for a couple of seconds and she was looking at me then i bent down to pick some dishes.Came back up then i saw her looking back at me and we stared about 2 seconds again then she looked away.So r those good signs u guys were explaining but iono im usually unconfident but i actually feel pretty good but im still a lil off but im way more confident then i used to be.So should i try to get some conversation going like u guys said?Like ask her what her interests r and stuff?

Do u guys believe in that whole love at first sight thing cause i sort of feel that way about some girl i first saw back on my sophmore year of high school.Like no matter what whenever i see other girls that are pretty or r nice and i think about talking to them or getting to know them maybe go out sometime with them or something.I always seem to think about that same girl and ive liked for a long time i just never had the gumption to go up to her although im a renewed person and don't have that depression wearing me down so ill go up and talk to her this year.Shes just a girl i can never get out of my mind and i just think she is extremely beautiful althought maybe not to many other people and it feels like shes great a person that i should go out with although i dont know her or anything.She just feels like a person that u can maybe have a true realtionship for a long time with its kind of hard to explain its like a feeling down in my gut.Do u guys believe in that love at first sight stuff or anything because i sure do feel that way i always end up thinking bout her.*As for my picture I might end up putting it up sometime but im kind of emarassed .*

Its a picture of me and like 5 other people cause the only way i got it is that it was from something i went to and i copied it but maybe i could cut my part out of it.

I only have one pic of me in it and its to big to put it on maybe if i cut it down or something but iono yah and np outlaw mang i was just asking how u have been man just to see what u have been up too.

Ya thanx for the great tips and advice u guys i luv how u guys are always there to help me ad i hope i can help u guys sometime.I would of tried some of that today at work because i thought she worked thrusday but she didnt hopefully shes working tomorrow

Ya what kind of conversation should i bring up to let her know id want to be friends and we could really get to know each other?

Nah thats what i was thinking along ur lines padreamer.I just wanted to know some ways to start conversation not to get to know her extremely fast but to just talk with her.So that like whenever i come in i can say "hi" and maybe jk around with her a lil i was definitely not looking towards that but i was prolly confused on how to explain these things.Maybe its because with my friend they like him right away it sux but o well

Iono mang ive only worked with her for the last like 3 days the only reason im wanting to try to know her as fast as i could is because once my friend gets to her she will proly like him because he has that high charisma.PLus isnt that a lil too fast to already ask for her phone number she works tonight so ill try to get some conversation going and make more eye contact ill try to say how things r going to see how much these pills have made me improve with girls because i have a more positive outlook on things now.

Sense u guys r really great people and i know u can answer one lil thing for me although outlaw has answered it twice.K with girls it has improved well with these pills sense i actually talked with the new waitress exchanged names,exchanged smiles,and made lots of eye contact sometimes.Good for me cause now im actually looking at them instead of looking at the floor feeling all down from depression ya like coming from u padreamer,john,or any regular to these thread u got any ideas on how i can get to know her better?Some great ideas to start more conversation and maybe just to get to know her as a friend at least or if things go good maybe ask her out or something cause she really seems like a very nice girl shes also pretty in my eyes too but that doesnt matter so much.So what do u guys think?And thanx for being there guys

Wow thats horrible kay have u kept looking for a good man and going on dates cause man thats such a long time to wait for anything like that i could not last that long ur a really strong person just think that.That takes a lot of courage to go through life like that and i hope that makes u feel better.Sorry im only 17 so i cant really connect wit ur story except for that for ive never had agf but thats no big deal at my age.Chin up and just keep looking i hope ur able to find that "special someone"

Ya i felt just like that padreamer i guess those chemical problems effect everything about that sometimes nice to see u have felt better but whats wrong now?