quietgrl Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I found this interesting online article about men and sex.Is this true ? "Although the spread is narrowing, there are some basic sexual differences between men and women that make it very hard for women to understand men and sex and vice versa. Fantasy and different attitudes about sex are two sexual differences between genders. Another sexual inconsistency: Men can divorce sex and love and have sex for the sake of sex alone; women can rarely divorce sex and love. Bearing in mind there is always that scope for individual variety, here are some almost universal truths about men that women most often fail to understand: * Men daydream about sex with various partners and in various situations. * Men masturbate while indulging these fantasies. * Men add spice to lovemaking by fantasizing about someone other than the current sexual partner. * The same men who use sex to express love can and will use sex manipulatively and for no other reason than for sex itself. Most men have times when they just want sex for the physical sake of sex itself without the entanglement of a relationship. Sometimes a man just wants a woman's body. She can be asleep or drunk or even watching television; he doesn't even care. There was an expression during World War II that explains this thought process: "Throw a flag over her face and do it for Old Glory!" Women often wonder, "Why would a man pay for sex when it is easily obtained for free in our society?" The fact is that the man will pay because he is only interested in "getting in and getting out," quickly, and without any other involvement. This way of thinking is practically incomprehensible to a woman. But even more incomprehensible to a woman is that a man can have sex with a woman he does not love at noon and then expect sex from a woman he does love in the same afternoon. Women can not understand this total separation and then total merger of sex and love. There is another reason men can divorce sex and love. Males reach the peak of their sexual energy in their teens. This means males seek sex long before they are mature enough for any enduring intimacy or relationship to form. Thereafter, for many years, or at least until a man's sexual vigor wanes with age, this high sexual energy threatens to disrupt any relationship that does form." link removed Link to comment
HyruleGuardian Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I think it is true for most guys, but not all. When I'm alone, I rarely fantasize about sex. When I'm with my girlfriend, sex usually isn't on my mind. I'll admit, it comes up sometimes, but my love for her won't let that be the central issue. Relationships shouldn't be based around sex. I don't understand guys that can have sex with someone they don't know, then come home and want it from their significant other. It would just eat me up inside. Link to comment
insofar Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Any article that makes such sweeping generalizations about an entire sex should trigger some red flags. Red flags labeled "BS". Everyone's different. While it might be easier for us to separate sex and love, many don't, and certainly wouldn't do the things listed lower on in the article. Human beings can't be explained so easily. Link to comment
quietgrl Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 oh gosh!!This part of the article is funny. " There was an expression during World War II that explains this thought process: "Throw a flag over her face and do it for Old Glory!" Link to comment
Dako Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 QG I wouldn't put much faith in that article repesenting most adult males. Seems like some dumb stereotypes to me. You can find similar baloney about women online, and it's just as lame. Link to comment
Aleadragonhawk Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Wow, that article makes some really sweeping, biased statements. In general, "men do this" or "women do that" statements are going to be false. Only trust things with statistics - and then, doubt those too, because statistics can be fixed. Link to comment
doyathink Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I just read this to my s/o....he agreed he was one who thinks like this....he did state however that, some women are like this too. Aren't I one of the lucky ones to have a man like this.... Link to comment
yeawutever Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 If it was completely true than we would be having serial cheaters. Link to comment
puff.tm.dragon Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Wow, everything in that article is true. Link to comment
Siriana Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Well concentrate on the good sides too, have you seen how many guys here on Ena are saying how they are comletely hurt and still in love? When they're in love, they're in love. Who cares about the differences. Link to comment
aviator Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Another man here who agrees with the basic ideas in the article (sex being different from love) Link to comment
quietgrl Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 I think some men are like that article but not all men(cross finger). Link to comment
Dako Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Here's just on point from this manifesto that I find misleading. Women often wonder, "Why would a man pay for sex when it is easily obtained for free in our society?" The fact is that the man will pay because he is only interested in "getting in and getting out," quickly, and without any other involvement. This way of thinking is practically incomprehensible to a woman. I never have used a prostitute, or considered it an option, although I've been propositioned a number of times. On some other points, I'm uninterested in sex with near-comatose women, women with flags over their faces (?) or for that matter, a woman I don't care about. I can't imagine the morning after that sort of thing. Call me weird. Link to comment
holyohio Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Women often wonder, "Why would a man pay for sex when it is easily obtained for free in our society?" Because prostitutes are cheaper. Everyone pays for sex. Link to comment
Dako Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Sure, they do, but often as part of an arrangement involving more than anonymous sex. Sometimes even respect or care enter the picture. Link to comment
holyohio Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Sure, they do, but often as part of an arrangement involving more than anonymous sex. Sometimes even respect or care enter the picture. Im just trying to answer the question. I've never and will never use a prostitute. Nevertheless, it is still kind of funny that the article assumes that picking up a hooker is common practice among men...wrong. Hookers dont care whether you're a Harvard Law grad or a homeless guy living under the 405. They dont judge the value/health of their relationship based on your potential earnings. They don't compare and contrast you to their other hooker buddy's latest catch. They don't complain about never getting to go out to dinner, ask you to buy them drinks, nag about your clothes, hairstyle, fingernail length, driving skills, etc. They don't demand house payments to wear on their finger as a sign of committment. They're honest. They know what they're getting paid for. Thus the basis of their appeal for some of the less fortunate. Link to comment
Daddy Bear Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Sometimes even respect or care enter the picture.The devil you say! What odd manner of freakish, foolish fetish is this? Link to comment
Daddy Bear Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Prostitutes honest? Hardly! They'll tell you any lie you want to hear in order to get that next rock or spoon of heroin; and don't you dare turn your back on one for a minute, or your wallet will be out the door before you can say, "Gee, I wonder if s/he has an STD." Link to comment
Dako Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hookers are honest now? LOL! I've been bitter about love, but never to a point of admiring rent-a-gals. Link to comment
holyohio Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hookers are honest now? LOL! I've been bitter about love, but never to a point of admiring rent-a-gals. I'm not bitter. I have a girlfriend of almost a year and i love her very much. I was attempting to be objective. Link to comment
Luke Skywalker Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 [quote=holyohio;1426932 Hookers dont care whether you're a Harvard Law grad or a homeless guy living under the 405. Well, how is a homeless guy going to affort a good escort? Obviously they do care that you have money to pay them. Link to comment
Luke Skywalker Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Prostitutes honest? Hardly! They'll tell you any lie you want to hear in order to get that next rock or spoon of heroin; and don't you dare turn your back on one for a minute, or your wallet will be out the door before you can say, "Gee, I wonder if s/he has an STD." No, how do you know she isn't raising money for tuition fees and enjoys what she's doing? Streetwalker/prostitutes do not count, talking about incall/outcall escorts here. Do people do inventory on what these people do with their money afterwards and where that money goes or is this just guessing? Link to comment
Luke Skywalker Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I've been bitter about love, but never to a point of admiring rent-a-gals. Guess I'm more bitter than you are then, but I admired 'casual sex gals' rather than rent-a-gals. Link to comment
rocio Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 I must be a man. Men daydream about sex with various partners and in various situations. guilty Men masturbate while indulging these fantasies. guilty The same men who use sex to express love can and will use sex manipulatively and for no other reason than for sex itself. guilty (not about the manipulating part, but using sex for no other reason than sex, oh yeah) Most men have times when they just want sex for the physical sake of sex itself without the entanglement of a relationship. guilty Sometimes a man just wants a woman's body. She can be asleep or drunk or even watching television; he doesn't even care. guilty My bf has woken up to find me on top of him. He didn't exactly seem bothered though.. Women often wonder, "Why would a man pay for sex when it is easily obtained for free in our society?" The fact is that the man will pay because he is only interested in "getting in and getting out," quickly, and without any other involvement. This way of thinking is practically incomprehensible to a woman. I would totally sleep with a prostitute for exactly that reason... if it didn't potentially involved infections and diseases and supporting drug habits. But even more incomprehensible to a woman is that a man can have sex with a woman he does not love at noon and then expect sex from a woman he does love in the same afternoon. I've personally never done this, and hope that I never reach such a low point in my life. However, I know of a number of women who cheat on their husbands, while remaining sexually active within the marriage as well.. ....I'm thinking that either this thread is completely complete nonsense, or I'm really a man! Link to comment
quietgrl Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hazey_amber quote: "guilty My bf has woken up to find me on top of him. He didn't exactly seem bothered though.." Hazey_amber, Right on !!! Link to comment
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