doorik

man, I see a lotof these types of posts where young ladies always ask this type of question "1'm 14 he's 18 blah, blah..." He's probably "protective" to get your guard down. It does seem to be working as you did allow him to fingure you. If he drops the "if you care about me you will...." then he want to tap a 13 year old that sicko -9 times outta ten he wants the sex-

reverse cowgirl

Think about it this way scout, I am sure that u have many extremely funny guy FRIENDS yet I doubt that many of them are "date worthy" to you. The worst part of this whole "I want a guy that makes me laugh" syndrome (DEF: symptoms that collectively indicate or characterize a disease, psychological disorder, or other abnormal condition) is that a lot of guys are "funny" and "sweet" yet are perpetually single. So if u are a normal lady, I'm sure u have a lot of these "funny" and "sweet" guys that u would rather gouge out your eyes with dull, rusty spoons, dipped in battery acid, and covered with salt before u would consider dating them. -Doorik-

There's nothing wrong with it. What is wrong is when a guy asks a girl "what are you looking for in a guy?" The standard response is almost without question something to the effect of "first of all, I want a guy that makes me laugh." When in all honesty everyone knows looks come first before anything else.

Another myth is probably "I want a guy who makes me laugh" as one the standard responses women use to not sound shallow

Ck's opinion is spot on IMHO.

The thing is stop screaming equality goes both ways. All ck really wants in my opinion is that the ladies acknowledge that 1) they have the advantage when it comes to the subject matter of asking people out, and 2) they are unwilling to change because they want to keep the advantage (nothing to do with "old fashioned" or anything other fluff) because many modern chicks like those in australia do ask guys out on a regular basis.

Additionally, I went on dry spell with an 0 for 12 (some were civil, some were cold, some were downright mean and enjoyed the power they had over me)when asking the ladies out. It was bad enough that I gave up for a while before I started up again (with the help of Rye and Gingers )

Um, I never said I don't cause I do ask girls out (and have, on occasion, been mercilessly humiliated). My point is that humiliation is not a valid excuse. ck, Have u ever been to Australia? If u have the means I suggest u go there for a few weeks. It's an eye openning experience. In a span of three weeks I was asked out several times. Furthermore, ladies there start conversations with you out of the blue. Talk about real "modern" ladies. Australia Rocks!!

Um that happens to guys all the time (except the crying part) We are supposed to "move on" and "keep trying" according to u ladies. Then to hear you say you give up after one bad letdown u give up? Whatever

Can u not see your flawed logic here? The girl won't find out about the ride either until later. Besides he is using the car for confidence and not lying (which is perfectly acceptable under your guidelines).

she wouldnt be trying to hide the fact that she has smaller breast! she is just giving herself the confidence to be the person she is!! besides what is wrong with smaller breasts? people are too materialistic these days , so if your saying that then is the guys trying to cover up his small penis then if he drive a cool car? ~LJ =; So if the guy is using the car for confidence then he is not lying like I said your logic and reasoning indicate that deceitful act is justifiable if it provides the deceiver with confidence (It doesn't matter what u say because both the car example and wereing a pushup/padded bra are deceitful acts) No, the lying about the car is because he doesn't have one (since he has to take the bus).

@ck Her point is that deceitful acts are justifiable if it makes the deceiver "confident about himself/herself". So, following that Logic, the car scenario (which is just an example) is not a decitful act and is justifiable if the it makes the person confident about himself. Thus, Lying is ok depending upon the situation I love logic.

This is of little relevance because your attitude towards the subject varies greatly from the feminine norm. You see, we get ticked off when we here things like "just keep trying", "you got to take risks" blah, blah, blah....then to see the same girl who spews this type of crap sit back and wait for the guy she's interested in to ask her out. Oh yeah, what a risk taker. There's a word for this type of person; HYPOCRITE

ck, Have you seen how the media portrays men from tv to movies to commercials? Men are always without exception portrayed as dumb and extremely lucky to have found their significant others PLease....

Being deceitful about your body is not lying? This type of garment is made to draw the attention of males just like low rise jeans. "we wear clothes to feel good and confident about who we and to enhance how we feel about ourselves and they are not to just impress men" So a deceitful act is justified if it makes the individual confident about themselves huh? In that case the car scenario is a justifiable one if it makes the guy "confident about who he is" "they are not to just impress men!! that is where men and women differ, women do things for them self and men do things to attract the attension of women" Right everything women do is for themselves and never to attract the attention of men need more input for most posts are unconvincing.

Being deceitful about your body is not lying? This type of garment is made to draw the attention of males just like low rise jeans. "we wear clothes to feel good and confident about who we and to enhance how we feel about ourselves and they are not to just impress men" So a deceitful act is justified if it makes the individual confident about themselves huh? In that case the car scenario is a justifiable one if it makes the guy "confident about who he is" "they are not to just impress men!! that is where men and women differ, women do things for them self and men do things to attract the attension of women" Right everything women do is for themselves and never to attract the attention of men need more input for most posts are unconvincing.

Hey ck, I remember u asked a similar question before and a lady named liberated replied with the following: "Ck, I know you don't want to hear this, but I am one of those"old fashioned" ladies who enjoys when a man takes control, especially in the beginning of the courtship. I really honestly feel that it is the man's responsibility to "take care of" the woman and show her a good time, and to make her feel comfortable being with you. It's strictly biological." I think its this basic "i'm an old fashioned kinda gal" bs that you're getting at ck and the double standards that women are willing to keep because they have the upperhand. It reminds me of the assinine movie Kate and Leopold where all the ladies watching were swooning at how a "proper" gentleman acts. The effect of that horrid movie is that EVERY girl coming out of the theatre probably thought to herself why can't men act like they used to like in the movie. PLEASE. Yeah u mean in the early 19th century when u couldn't work, vote, attend higher education levels. When a man could cheat on ypou while you are married and u caould do nothing. When he could physically abuse you and you were powerless. Yup "old fashioed" sounds like a good idea

So lets say I don't have a car so I have to take the bus everywhere. However, lets say my older brother goes to europe for several months. Let us also say that I drive his Acura around "on a regular bases" during this period long enough for the females to think the car is mine. The question is is it really mine or am I using it to attract their attention under false pretences? Please advise

Some very interesting posts. Although the replies from th eladies were pretty easy to predict "Filling out the close a little better" for what purpose? to look better right? to attract the attention of guys right? Is't this being what we want you to be rather than being yourself because honestly these garments are pretty deceitful. "extra confidence" why? because you will look better through artificial enhancements? Please advise

Um quick question, Am I supposed to take advice from girls who tell me to "just be yourself" even though these same girls wear pushup/padded bras on a regular basis? Isn't this hypocritical? Any thoughts?

The problem with your theory is that it is not possible for every guy to be an alpha male. If it were possible there would be nothing to differentiate these alpha males from the weenies.

what makes situations like your worse is that the ladies often use it as an excuse for us to wait for them because "she doesn't know what she wants right now" Please ....hope the door doesn't hit your butt on the way out doorik

Wow, I feel bad for your "best friend". Poor guy

You do this and you will become her guy friend whom she turns to when things go bad with her boyfriends. What makes it worse is that she 'll talk about what an A$$h0le her boyfriend is while simultaneously telling you how "perfect" you are and that to "never change" and so on and so forth. If you do what josie says you are going to be in a world of hurt. It is not worth it for you to give so much in a friendship and get nothing but whining in return. This is textbook "guyfriend syndrome" or what i like to refer to as "emotional tamponism". Definitely not worth your time and effort. Move on bro. DO NOT BECOME HER CLOSE FRIEND IF YOU WANT TO BE WITH HER.