Going forward with a grievance?

[j.man]

I mean, the "n word" developed within a context of the forced emigration and enslavement of millions of Africans, their subsequent forced servitude, Jim Crow, segregation, lynchings, etc. With respect to the history of Pakistains as an entire ethnic group, I'm not sure the extent to which the use of "Paki" in an Aussie context can relate. Particularly in the context of Australia, where pretty much everyone finds whatever excuse they can to come up with two-syllable versions of a word, I'm not sure that's a stink I would raise, especially considering you seem to have more significant grievances, relatively speaking. Not defending her using the word as I think, for sheer self-preservation if nothing else, it's probably best to avoid any word that could be considered by anyone to be a pejorative in the workplace. It's not a word I'd personally ever use. I just don't think it will serve you to bring up last minute hearsay of it, particularly if you know the higher personnel and the culture supports her.

 

Regarding the phone, was it supplied by the company or was it your personal device you acquired yourself?

 

And, again, you could give us a list of 100 perfectly understandable complaints, but it's up to you how much of a headache it'd be worth and what tangible evidence you've got to support your case. Anyone and their mother can tell you that you've got a case when taking your account as gospel. Until you've sat down with someone who would actually represent you for an actual consultation and laid out all you've got to offer, I wouldn't take the claims of a hotline or forum too seriously.

[Jellybean9]

I'm actual from the UK.

 

Like I said I've never had an issue with this sort of thing before.

 

I was happy to go with just the mangerial side and invasion of privacy.

 

It was my family member who is in a high profile HR dept. herself suggested I go forward with the race related stuff.

 

That said you have made me open my eyes about the use of "P" word. She is Australian but had lived on the U.K for 11 years so surely would know it's not a socially acceptable term?

 

I don't know I can't assume what someone else knows or does not know.

 

It was my personal phone. I had to take it out of my desk drawer for her.

 

I'm foolish as she made me feel incredibly intimated with all the other stuff.

 

You are right! That is what I'm struggling with. I've never had to deal with anxiety before. It's not worth my health for going forward with this.

 

Just feel like it's not fair she gets away treating people like this. What happens if she does this to the next person? Nothing is on record. At least if it's on record they can reference back to it.

As my manager will only get a slap on the risk. Might make her be more aware of herself and not have someone get to the stage I have.

[catfeeder]

What does filing a grievance entail that has you so shook up?

 

Does the process involve hearings and stuff you'd need to be involved in? If not, then you already wrote your issues in the resignation letter, so why not just copy those over to the form and send it?

[Jellybean9]

What does filing a grievance entail that has you so shook up?

 

Does the process involve hearings and stuff you'd need to be involved in? If not, then you already wrote your issues in the resignation letter, so why not just copy those over to the form and send it?

 

Sorry I should have explained.

 

It is basically a formal complaint or concern you raise with an employer.

 

Can be about things relating to your job role. Not getting a promotion. Your pay. They way you have been treated at work or Discrimination.

 

You start of by sorting out the problem informally like I did with the head of HR. But she brushed it off.

 

Then in writing. That was going to be my desk step but I was signed off work as sick.

 

I decided to hand in my resignation letter instead and not file the formal grievance. As you tend to file for grievance if you want to stay and the matter resolved. Or you are leaving and want to go to a tribunal.

 

I did not go into details as why but referred to the lack of mangerial support lead to this decision to leave and my deteriorating health due to "work stress".

 

I was going to walk away. But head of HR said she will raise a grievance if I want to and get the complaint in writing. With dates and times of all incidents.

 

That means writing all I've told you and the rest of it.

 

Once it is in writing I will have to attend a meeting. This will be with someone with HR - which is awkward as they are involved in the matter. The member it's about. So that's two people in my team and me!

 

I can only take with me a union representative. But I don't have one as I'm not part of a union (basically some government support thing). Or a colleague, no one in my office would want to get involved. I don't blame them. So essentially I'll be alone with the head of HR who loves my manager and my manager who is a bully.

 

So that's what I'm scared of.

 

But people are claiming I go ahead because you can get settlement pay. Which is rare as they are a massive company and I'm just one person. Without the money for decent lawyers.

 

Everyone is advising me to go forward as why should my manager get away with basically the state I'm in now.

 

Anxiety which I've never had before to this degree. Jobless as it became too much with a mortgage and having to support myself.

 

But I see it as I brought this on myself to be fair. So it seems silly going forward.

[Wiseman2]

Leaving a job is not the time to cash in and try to build a case inventing "discrimination" and "work related illness". Yes they will have all sorts of attorneys. And you will lose not only a bogus frivolous case you will do more even damage to your job search than you have already done by making your resignation letter into a gripe diatribe.

 

These "people" are not too smart.

people are claiming I go ahead because you can get settlement pay.

[Jellybean9]

Leaving a job is not the time to cash in and try to build a case inventing "discrimination" and "work related illness". Yes they will have all sorts of attorneys. And you will lose not only a bogus frivolous case you will do more even damage to your job search than you have already done by making your resignation letter into a gripe diatribe.

 

These "people" are not too smart.

 

I personally was never looking to cash in. This is why I have not put anything in writing.

 

I was more thinking of having the head of my department aware of the situation. As I spoke to another manager in a different department and she suggested so as the head of HR has been away for so long she has no idea what was going on within her team.

 

Which is what I planned before things got out of hand.

 

Which lead to me leaving.

 

I followed resignation letter standardised formates.

 

I said I was going to resign. When my last day of work would be which was a month's notice.

 

With a short explanation of why I was leaving. Which was lack of mangerial support.

 

I ended with a thank you and how I'm said to be leaving a company I love.

 

That was that. Nothing in there screamed I was causing an issue.

 

I've read resignation letters of people leaving because they had been promised seniority but didn't get it. Or pay rises based on their work. You have to state a reason for leaving. Especially if you are leaving and not going on to a job.

 

It would have been discussed in the exit interview anyway.

 

I was honest.

 

I have never had an employer reach out to us for a resignation letter. We would never disclose it as it's against company policy. So I don't have to worry about that.

 

I worry about my "name" as I would hate tbis whole thing to tarnish me.

 

May not cause much issue as I plan on getting back onto acedemia but might in the future for employment.

[Wiseman2]

Why not leave as gracefully as possible? Policy this, policy that. You don't know who talks to whom "off the record". Be smart, at least smarter than these "people" who told you to get a lawyer and "get settlement pay". Perhaps the most valuable thing here is to try to get along better with any sort of coworkers in the future.

[Jellybean9]

In all my time in employment and in academia I have never ever had an issue with anyone.

 

The only person I have encountered like this manager. I have always kept a professional boundary with managers in the past. Even university supervisor. Prevents these sort of issues.

 

She was very invasive into my personal life. Which made me uncomfortable. This was not due to me not getting on with her.

 

Other members of staff are genuinely sad I'm leaving. They are sad I'm now not even able to attend the Christmas party as I booked a hotel before and everything. I don't think the "we will miss you" is out of politness.

 

I even got on well with the head of HR. She has cats. I have cats. We chat about them. She is my mum's age so very mumsy. Which is why I didn't think approaching her with the issues I was having with my manager would have lead to her dismissing even listening to me.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with me. I got on well with the other two members of my team.

 

Prior to leaving I sensed tension from one of my team with my manager. As she is obviously causing her issues too.

 

As much as you try to get on with someone. If someone does not like you. For what ever reason then there is not much I can do.

 

I would go in and work and she would intentionally make things difficult.

[Jellybean9]

Update:

 

I have decided to not pursue the grievance with my company against my manager. I have nothing to gain from it - I would just be losing my dignity.

 

People like that won't change. She will bully the next employee under her that lets her. That was my mistake was letting her get away with it for so long.

 

But as she is the head of HR's right hand women nothing will change. Even if I has spoke up sooner I would be in the same mess.

 

They still have me on garden leave... But offered me to work my last day at work. I feel it's demeaning to be told to not work my last two weeks notice. But go in for my last day to say bye to everyone and actual "work" that day!

 

They have also suggested I am allowed to go to the Xmas party. I had already booked a hotel months back. But again it's a little demeaning... It is aassive company of 400 people so I would not see my manager or head of HR. But still... If I go I lose my pride? Or should I just be fronting and show them? Can't even think about it hay right now.

 

Also I have the option for my exit interview. Not sure if I should mention all my points about my manager or not.

 

As far as the resignation letter it is strictly confidential as well as the exit interview notes with regards to other employers. They would be up for a major lawsuit breaching confidentiality with current staff and ex-employees. So doubt they would risk it to get back at little me. What have they got to get me back for as I'm not suing now.

 

Their generic reference is for everyone, so will not be a reflection of me. This is to protect them from being accused of slander. So all in all it shouldn't backfire on me for the future.

 

Besides I'm going back to my degree. So the sector I work in now definitely does not link with my degree sector. Any roles relating to my degree I would apply for ask for experience within that feild. So my bought in HR would not even be acknowledged.

 

All in all... Some may say I'm weak for not pursuing it further. Some may say I'm wise for leaving it be. Some would say I'm foolish for ever considering. Everyone will have an opinion.

 

It doesn't matter what anyone says as I'm happy regardless.

 

I'm happy to be free of a place that made me miserable.

 

Like they say when one doors closes another door opens. So bring it on!

 

Thanks for putting up with me vent about it all guys!

[catfeeder]

Why would you look at these invitations to celebrate your goodbyes and to attend the party as demeaning? You gave notice to leave, you weren't fired, and the garden time is to prevent further problems for them--and for you. If you were considered a threat or unwelcome, you'd not be allowed on the premises, much less offered the opportunities to cement social bonds with anyone you may care about.

 

As you grow older you'll learn how to personalize your experiences less and chalk them up as experience in your pocket, instead. You'll take whatever pearls you've learned and use those to strengthen your confidence as you move forward. You'll recognize unfairness as part of the soup, and you'll consider each experience as either serving a private "don't" model or a "do" model to help you navigate your future.

 

None of this diminishes your experience, but rather it prevents you from harming yourself unnecessarily beyond the slings and arrows we all suffer from time to time.

 

I think you made the right choice to release yourself from the additional burden of trying to fix what's behind you. We're all in charge of our choices to turn any given insult into a brawl, and often the wisest choice is to walk away and allow unethical or predatory people to hang themselves--eventually.

 

Choose your battles carefully, and use this experience to teach yourself that not every hill is worthy of a war. Our climbs are difficult enough without adding the weight of chips to our shoulders. Sometimes we just find ourselves involved with a bad fit, and the sooner we can extricate ourselves, the better.

 

Head high, and focus forward. You'll thank yourself later.

[Jellybean9]

Thank you catfeeder.

 

With regards to the Christmas party. I essentially had to "beg" for it. As I stated I had already pre-booked a hotel a couple months back. I was merely saying that I had and referencing how unfair it was.

 

The only reason they are letting me is because the head of HR stated "I appreciate you've pre-made plans for this therefore you are welcome to come". She included as it is an after work event it will be fine. Basically stating I am not allowed in work essentially.

 

The exit interview would be pre-booked and I'll have to check in like a guest at front of house reception.

 

Again it was from me questioning why I was on garden leave in the first place. The employee I took the job over from. Worked her entire notice despite having issues with the structure of the role. Another employee who had a dispute with her main manger again was allowed to work her notice (I had to type up her exit interview notes, so it was not just hearsay. I mentioned how I for I would never had the option to work with my collegues and say goodbye. Have my leaving lunch and all those final bits and pieces of leaving a job.

 

This is why I was suggested having a last day... Baring in mind they have not yet announced my departure from the company and started my collection. I have not been treated like an standard employee.

 

You are meant to feel comfortable in any company discussing issues you are having. I would have been well within my right to file for a grievance and still be an employee.

 

I feel doing so they have essentially dropped me from the practice.

 

I feel as though I've done nothing wrong but have been treated as though I have.

 

This also meaning I'll miss all the other Christnas events I had booked for. Like the Charirty event we run. The children's party I was meant to be a part of.

 

Like you said catfeeder it is an experience.

 

I just feel like facing them on that one day before I leave or the Christmas party is demeaning as I had to easentially "beg" them for something all employees are entitled to.

[Wiseman2]

It seems they put you on garden leave as damage control for disgruntled employees which is often the case. However now that they have minimized the damages of you continuing to work there after all your complaints and innuendos of discrimination and harassment lawsuits, grievances, etc, they feel it's ok for you to enter the building to say goodbye if you wish and of course the Christmas party is a nonissue since you can't create problems or make veiled threats against the company there.

 

Go if you want or don't go if you are still hurt and bitter. If you wish to use your exit interview as a catty gripe session against this particular manager that's up to you, however you could use it constructively to suggest some positive changes overall they could make regarding supervision, training or whatever else.

 

I have decided to not pursue the grievance

They still have me on garden leave.. I feel it's demeaning to be told to not work. But go in for my last day to say bye to everyone. They have also suggested I am allowed to go to the Xmas party. Also I have the option for my exit interview. Not sure if I should mention all my points about my manager or not.

[mustlovedogs]

You begged to attend the Christmas party?

 

That is very immature. Remember, YOU chose to quit. That means YOU give up the right to complain about missing out on anything after the day you resign.

 

They aren’t required to let you work your notice. My company often escorts you out the day you resign. Regardless of how much notice is given.

 

Your FOMO/pre bookings are not the companies issue. They are entirely your own. And it is more than fair for them to not allow you to come - because you’re not an employee anymore!

 

What other employees do has no bearing on what’s fair to you. The company can decide whatever feels right when someone resigns. If someone quit to be a stay at home mom, I’m sure they’d work their notice. If I quit to go to a competitor, I’d be escorted by security out and my stuff mailed to me.

 

I’m not going to lie. If this Christmas thing feels “unfair” to you, it makes me question how unfair your manager actually was.

[catfeeder]

Remember, YOU chose to quit. That means YOU give up the right to complain about missing out on anything after the day you resign.

 

Yup. We each get to decide whether a resignation is about a healthy move forward, even if away from a bad fit, OR whether we're using it as a punitive device 'against' an employer.

 

You've chosen the latter, and so you'll be treated as such by the company.

 

All of this aftermath is wasted energy you could be focusing, instead, on building a fabulous future for yourself.

 

Decide whether you want to carry around a victim chip to live out a whiney 'story' that keeps you cast as a downtrodden complainer, or whether you'll want to close this chapter with the pride of having extricated yourself from a lousy situation as you move forward with confidence.

 

We each get to decide whether our experiences will strengthen us and prove our resilience as a life skill, or whether we will opt instead to be weakened under the weight of our own belaboring.

 

You get to pick. Choose wisely.

[Batya33]

You begged to attend the Christmas party?

 

That is very immature. Remember, YOU chose to quit. That means YOU give up the right to complain about missing out on anything after the day you resign.

 

They aren’t required to let you work your notice. My company often escorts you out the day you resign. Regardless of how much notice is given.

 

Your FOMO/pre bookings are not the companies issue. They are entirely your own. And it is more than fair for them to not allow you to come - because you’re not an employee anymore!

 

What other employees do has no bearing on what’s fair to you. The company can decide whatever feels right when someone resigns. If someone quit to be a stay at home mom, I’m sure they’d work their notice. If I quit to go to a competitor, I’d be escorted by security out and my stuff mailed to me.

 

I’m not going to lie. If this Christmas thing feels “unfair” to you, it makes me question how unfair your manager actually was.

 

I agree. Your requests and reactions seem over the top to me.

[katrina1980]

One of the comments she made knowing I have a mixed race nephew as I have a picture of him.

 

She said to a group of us that "they are fine to have fun with but you wouldn't want a baby with them as they would end up with black features".

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They being black people.

 

Which is a valid point my nephew has black features but I have no idea why she would point it as a bad thing.

 

At an office event there was a lot of black men there. She whispered yo me and a co-worker that there was a lot of "charcoal sassuage" in here tonight.

 

JB, I am glad you've chosen to move on, and jmo, but your manager, with all her invasive, intrusive questions re your heritage and sex life (which were NONE of her business), etc were 100% inappropriate.

 

Re the commrnt above in bold, no NOT a valid point and IS racist.

 

I mean come on, saying "you wouldn't want a baby with 'them' as 'they' will have black features"?

 

That is a totally racist comment! Same with the "charcoal sausage" comment, geez!

 

She sounds horrible, and should be fired for making such comments. .

 

Anyway, good riddance, sounds toxic and sometimes it's best to just move on.

[Jellybean9]

JB, I am glad you've chosen to move on, and jmo, but your manager, with all her invasive, intrusive questions re your heritage and sex life (which were NONE of her business), etc were 100% inappropriate.

 

Re the commrnt above in bold, no NOT a valid point and IS racist.

 

I mean come on, saying "you wouldn't want a baby with 'them' as 'they' will have black features"?

 

That is a totally racist comment! Same with the "charcoal sausage" comment, geez!

 

She sounds horrible, and should be fired for making such comments. .

 

Anyway, good riddance, sounds toxic and sometimes it's best to just move on.

 

Thank you Katrina!

 

Others has posted and suggested it's my fault for substandard work.

 

Then saying it's because I've made enemies at work! Not the case. I love my office and the other members of lovely staff.

 

Glad you agree they are racist terms as others again suggested I wouldn't have had grounds going down the racist route.

 

I need to let this all go.

[catfeeder]

Thank you Katrina!

 

Others has posted and suggested it's my fault for substandard work.

 

Then saying it's because I've made enemies at work! Not the case. I love my office and the other members of lovely staff.

 

Glad you agree they are racist terms as others again suggested I wouldn't have had grounds going down the racist route.

 

I need to let this all go.

 

It's not that you don't have grounds, it's that the in-house option you were offered is self-policed by the same company that caused the offense.

 

That's a big ticket to nowhere.

 

If you have a governmental agency outside of the company to meet with and learn your options and chances, you could pursue that route. However, cluttering up your case with a focus on irrelevant stuff won't serve you legally, emotionally or financially.

 

Head high.

[Jellybean9]

I have been told I am still an employee... I have been told I am not allowed to work for anyone else during this month. I'm entitled to all company benefit as I am still on pay roll.

 

So I'm essentially stuck until this period is over to work and get money!

 

Another employee had an issue with her manager. That I had mentioned previously. She shared her views on her manager and was welcomed to the summer party which she attended. She got to work her months' notice and last day.

 

I shared the fact I was not getting mangerial support. This was not me being bitter. This was simply stating the case.

 

I was made to work extra every evenings. Told to come into work half an hour early all unpaid. Which I never complained about. Got on with it as I'm a hard worker.

 

I had three weeks annual leave to take off as I was never allowed to take it off as so many people had dates pre-booked off. Didn't complain and booked it off at the end of the year when I was allowed. Was I burnt out by the end... Did they care? Nope. But I did what I was told.

 

On top of that i worked through lunch often. I even worked through a half day I booked off annual leave.

 

They have decided garden leave so they don't have to pay me my annual leave in in lieu. Despite incurring them throughout the year. Is this fair?

 

All other departments has grown on account to growing company size. Not HR. All the other members of my team even said it was too much work for my role. This is why I've had to put in extra hours. It was always meant to be a split role but left it as a one person job.

 

Head of HR knows nothing as she had my line manager doing everything and has barely been in the office.

 

My manager brushed it off when I .entioned workload. As I have no idea how to deal with stress as a master's is nothing compared to my current role. Spoke to my lecturer from university on Friday who laughed it off and was like what planet is she on?

 

I graded with honours for both my degrees. She was very anti-degree and made comments about it too. How it was a "waste of time". I can honestly say it was way more stressful dealinf with finals and a dissertation deadline than work now.

 

It's an entry level role someone who has left secondary school (high school) would be qualified enough for. I'm showing off. I'm just stating it's not a hard job at all.

 

Reseach roles in my feild are hard to find. This job was a great place to be. Lovely company. Lovely people minus my manager and now hesd of HR. I never planned to leave unless getting into something linked to my degree. Why would I? It was honestly a great company to be a part of. Which I stated in my resignation letter.

 

The HR team have now been audited and discovered the workload was too much! I expressed this time and time again! Yet I was ignored. Poor management?

 

My manager took an automatic diskike to me. It's not a case of me not getting on with people like oyhers stated.

 

Majority of support staff has asked where I am. They have asked if I am coming to the Xmas party. HR are keeping it quiet as the way they are handling it is not right.

 

I feel like some of you are assuming I am the problem. I know for a fact I am not!

 

Never ever had an issue with any supervisor or manager in the past. Still talk to them to this day despite leaving the company. Shows I have no issues with maintaining relationships.

 

Only once I had an issue when I was a receptionist years ago at a car show room. The mechanic guys used to call the switchboard and make sexual jokes. Had one of the guys on the car service desk always making slimey comments about me reading erotic fiction at my desk and getting turned on. Comment on my clothes. If I wore heels. Telling me how he can help me burn off calories better than my boyfriend can. Down to him having dirty dreams about me and telling me. Offering to drive me home! I told my manager there and he was like oh lads are just being lads. No issue at all just get on with it.

 

Not ideal for a working environment. I got a job and left that place. Did I file a grievance? No! I am not a trouble maker like I said. I left with my head held high. Worked my notice and moved on!

 

I know you all think I am an the problem. I can't stress how I'm not. People in the office actually miss me. I've had recruiters I work with compliment my work. As well as other members of my own staff.

 

Why would they if I'm as terrible as my manager and head of HR are making me out to be?

 

My work directly reflects one of the directors. Again always got praise from him.

 

You don't know my manager. I feel like alot of you think I am the issue.

 

I worked at my company a long time before she did. I was in a different department before joining her team.

 

We have a lot of Friday night drinks. Remember welcoming her and introducing myself to her. A couple of weeks later she comes out with how no one liked her at her previousjob. That's why she left and came to my company... Makes you wonder. Plus why would you share that, I would keep that a secret.

 

She has never been a manager before and stated how she never got on with her own manager at her old place... Again odd thing to mention to new colleagues. She was incredibly proud of it to be fair.

 

She has ruffled a few other feathers with other employees at my place now too. One of the PAs she was very unprofessional with when she was being interviewed for her current post. She got in a spat with the manager of the reception team at our summer party and annoyed finance team due to her own incompetency.

 

She also destroyed relationships with two recruiters I work closely with and need for finding niche roles. When she spoke with them on the phone she was rude and unprofessional. Giving my company a bad name and ruining things for me!

 

She also used the database and took an employees mobile number to text her personally. The employee came to me and explained what happened, I said we are not allowed to do that even though we have access to it. It's a breach of confidentiality obviously. If an employee wants you to have their number they would give it to you! She didn't want to cause issues so never voiced it to the head of HR. Besides she was off on holiday at the time so there was no one else to mention it to.

 

She also did the same to me. We wer talking of middle names and everyone who wanted to share theirs did. I didn't share mine. Only close family and friends know it, as I hate it. I said I do not wish to share it. I'm actually n the process of having it removed, I hate it that much. She went on our system of employee records. Found it. Struggled to pronounce it and shared it to everyone. Again not professional.

 

The using my personal phone to message our colleague lying it was a work emergency.

 

The questioning me about the contraception I'm on. Even though I've never questioned hers. She even asked about my monthly cycle. Bizzare!

 

Then the questioning my sex life across the whole office.

 

She called me a oncd when I went for leaving drinks and had a dinner after. I asked my colleague who I like, if I looked okay. My manager pulls me to the side and said how she thought "I'm such a , for looking like that in my skirt" guess it's a compliment but it wasn't sincere.

 

She even spread around work how I have a drink problem... How I can't control my alcohol. Shocking as I've never got drunk with her or ever for that matter at a work event.

 

She constantly mocked my accent. As I've got a strong accent.

 

Her statement of "black features" and "P" word. Is nothing compared to all the other things.

 

There is so much more!

 

She got worst when she worked out I was dating someone. On those days she would make snide comments on the way I looked. Then pile me up with additional work so I wouldn't finish on time and would be late for the date or have to get in early the next day.

 

Still a nice person? Am I still the issue?

 

She has been like this since I joined the department in March. I didn't speak about it before as everyone has issues with managers. So thought why make a big deal!

 

Like how I brushed off the issues when I was in the car show room with the guys sexual innuendos. Thought I could brush this off with my new line manager as I loved my job.

 

It got unbearable. So I spoke to the head of HR. Who does not know about the work I do. As since joining she was on holiday for 2 weeks. Then another two weeks. Then on sick leave for a month following surgery. Since that she has been part-time.

 

The only person she hears from is my manager. So she has no idea whats going on. So god knows what my manager is feeding her.

 

So decide to finally meet and talk to the head of HR. I've not spoken to any other staff about it other than than a finance manager. She said talk to the head of HR as she clearly has no idea of the poor management of my manager. So I did. For her to state that there is not an issue and my manager is providing me with support.

 

Honestly has any of that sounded supportive to you guys?

 

Yes I stated I was not getting mangerial support. As he was true! Yet I am being treated as the problem?

 

Yes I'm still an employee and I would be breaking the law if I was to start work elsewhere!

 

You all questioned what I thought was fair and how it made sense if I think they way I've been treated is unfair with the issues with manager.

 

Do any of you think that's fair all I've explained?

 

I served my company for longer than my manager.

 

Some of the great staff we have today is due to me! The relationships I still have with other recruiters are down to me.

 

Yet I am a bad guy!

 

I questioned as to why I was placed on garden leave and they could not answer me. Yes it is to protect them. But why didn't they protect themselves from the other employee who was also complaining about her lack of departmental support. She was allowed to work her notice. Have her last month with her team and other staff. She even had her last day after that.

 

I've been offered a last day. After being told to not work my notice. Embarrassing to face the rest of the office after that for just one day at the end of my months' notice! Yes! Some of you may disagree.

 

I also stated how it was not fair to treat me that way for my Christmas party. As when I was in the office my other two members of staff I work with we was discussing outfits. I had booked a hotel with two other members of staff. I was merely questioning why I was not entitled to it if I'm still enrolled as a current member of staff.

 

When I said "beg" I didn't actually beg. I questioned as to why I'm not entitled to the "company benifits" if I am still employed until Christmas break.

 

The answer was as I've booked a hotel it would be okay for me to go. Based on the grounds I had planned prior with a hotel... Not because they wanted me there.

 

I'm not stupid. As if I would go to a work party and make myself look like a fool for slander. Also as it stands as I did not take the matter further and officially file a grievance. The only other person who should know is the head of HR, not even my line manager. No one else in the office knows... I work in HR. I would never discuss anything office related anyway. I've proved this with my work with you them!

 

Handing in my resignation meant I would be required to work my months notice which is stated in my contract. Same would be if I was dismissed due to unsatisfactory work.

 

The only time anyone has ever been escorted out the office was if they have been caught in breach of their contract which is considered gross misconduct.

 

Not the case with me. As an employee I'm allowed to file a grievance. I would have been allowed to continue working as a normal member of staff if I filed one even without the resignation letter.

 

Yes, I chose to hand my resignation in. With the intent to serve my notice. I didn't quit and walk away like some people do. I stated I would work my notice. This has been documented that they have dismissed.

 

Now they have not even clarified why they placed me on garden leave. I am well within my right as an employee to know their reasons. As it has to be a mutual agreement. Which this has not been.

 

All other HR staff before me has worked their notice period. So it's not grounds for confidentiality as to why I've been placed on garden leave.

 

Other staff havs filed complaints against managers and worked their notice.

 

The only occasion someone was placed on garden leave wss someone who handed their notice and was working on a government "top secret" project. So obviously could not continue. He was paid in full and got his annual leave entitlement too.

 

Again not the case for me as other HR members have worked their months notice.

 

They know I've left and do not have another job lined up. As they ask when you hand in your resignation So I'm not leaving for a competitor.

 

All in all... I am not sure if you guys still think I'm the problem. Or something a little odd is going on here!

 

It doesn't matter as I know I'm not.

 

I'll move on. I don't need their breadcrumbs for the party and last day.

 

It's an experience. I've learnt from it.

 

I've also learnt you can't trust HR.

 

People sometimes pulled their face when I said I work in HR as it has a bad reputation here. They are known for being corrupt.

 

So I'm better off out!

 

I know it's a long post. Most of you won't read it. It feels good to get it all out.

[mustlovedogs]

Your complaints don’t matter at this point. You quit. That’s all that matters. You’re fine with quitting - just own it, and stop complaining about how they treat you after the fact.

[Jellybean9]

Your complaints don’t matter at this point. You quit. That’s all that matters. You’re fine with quitting - just own it, and stop complaining about how they treat you after the fact.

 

Yes I did resign. I'm owning it.

 

Just when others suggested it was down to me making enemies and substandard work.

 

It wasn't the case.

 

I'll stop complaining what's done it done.

 

I've done the best thing for me.

 

I won't pursue it and I'm happy with my decision.

 

So all in all the best thing I could have done.

 

People like her won't change and hopefully when she does this again. Because she will. They put her in her place.

 

Not my problem now and I will move on away from that place.

[Jellybean9]

Thanks for listening to me vent.

 

Was what I needed. Shedded all that from my head which was worthless clutter and engery.

 

Might not even bother with the exit interview. I have nothing to gain and it will be just a waste of my time.

[catfeeder]

Your complaints don’t matter at this point. You quit. That’s all that matters. You’re fine with quitting - just own it, and stop complaining about how they treat you after the fact.

 

I second this. You either want to file a case for illegal racial comments with your government, or you do not. The rest is not a legal claim, it's just a rehash of why you've quit. So start seeking other work, and on the application where it says 'Desired Start Date,' put down the first day you can legally work.

 

Head high, and move FORward.

[Jellybean9]

Thanks guys!

 

It felt good just to get it all out to be fair.

 

Since March I've not really mentioned it to anyone. As I'm not one to complain about things IRL. Literally just get on with it.

 

So bottled it up for ages. Hence the explosion on this thread.

 

It's out there feel better for it.

 

Onwards and upwards. Going to do temp work until I start my PhD. So all in all - all is going swimmingly.

 

Cheers :)

[Wiseman2]

Hopefully you will adopt a more mature and professional attitude and learn some interpersonal skills. Not getting along with this manager no matter what a jerk she may have been proves you can not deal with all sorts of personalities effectively. Instead you seethe and whine and escalate.

 

Also your veiled threats and frequent complaints, not to mention, the idiotic advice from "people" to sue and cash in on that makes you a liability, not an asset, to any company unfortunate enough to have hired you. This is why upon your resignation you were put on garden leave. You were clearly perceived as a trouble maker.

I'm not one to complain about things IRL. Going to do temp work until I start my PhD.