Rape porn...red flag?

[Luke Skywalker]

I think if I were to see something like that, I would get sleep paralysis (feel like I'm being attacked by a demon in my sleep), or I would lose my mind as I go into a panic attack. I know this will create a mental shock with me, change my whole identity, etc... A person who is into this stuff has to be totally out of touch with humanity and himself and has to be living in some kind of fog.

 

How can one handle a shock of viewing such disturbing things and be business as usual? That means, he would view Asian women as sub-human sex objects whose very lives are at someone's sexual whim? Disgusting.

 

It's like looking at a Hostel movie and really enjoying watching the people suffer rather than being at least a bit disturbed by it. Brutal.

[1MoreChance]

A person who is into this stuff has to be totally out of touch with humanity and himself...

 

 

 

I was thinking about this thread today... I asked myself what humanity has come to.

[melrich]

How very naive of you.

 

Not to mention it is totally beside the point whether they are real or not.

[annie24]

yeah, i don't see how he, or anyone, can get off on porn in which a woman is being tortured and assaulted. even if it is 'fake.'

[heloladies21]

yeah, i don't see how he, or anyone, can get off on porn in which a woman is being tortured and assaulted. even if it is 'fake.'

Well that's not good reasoning. How can anyone be entertained by any of the Saw movies, or Arnold blowing some dudes head off? I mean torture and MURDER?!? The millions of people who watch those surely can't all be sickos

 

If it's fake, it's fake. People are entertained by a bunch of different things in fantasy land. And it really doesn't matter what we all think about it.

[annie24]

but there is something so much more brutal with rape and torture than just the terminator going in and shooting up the place. i see your point about the terminator movie being a movie and everyone knows it's fake. with rape porn...... some of it could be real, i don't know. i guess, i don't see how you can be pleasuring yourself and getting off on someone being brutalized. it is not sexy to me at all.

[1MoreChance]

but there is something so much more brutal with rape and torture than just the terminator going in and shooting up the place. i see your point about the terminator movie being a movie and everyone knows it's fake. with rape porn...... some of it could be real, i don't know. i guess, i don't see how you can be pleasuring yourself and getting off on someone being brutalized. it is not sexy to me at all.

 

 

ya Annie,

 

as far as I know no one gets off from the terminator blowing someone's head off.

[Samedy]

You'd be amazed at some of the fantasies "mature" and "level-headed" individuals enjoy.

 

*My opinion/perspective*

 

Fantasies are one thing, but I think it changes when you start looking for videos of these actions. Fantasies take place in your mind, so none of the people you fantasies about actually get hurt; not matter how immoral they are. But videos, videos are different. Those are real people in those videos, they fantasizer is seeking out their fantasy, trying to make it more real.

[melrich]

You cannot look at this in isolation.

 

OP, first it seems that you have a level of comfort, you know him and his personality. You know his physical traits and how he behaves when being intimate with you.

 

If the "rape" fantasy is just one more fantasy to him, then it is probably not an issue when you combine that knowledge with what you know of him personally. Many men have a strong sexual curiosity and it may be nothing more than that.

 

If he needs this fantasy to get excited then it could be of greater concern. That is not necessarily that he will act out on his fantasy but it would make it more likely.

 

I do agree with whoever said talk to him about it. He may feel uncomfortable with the subject and examining his desires but he owes that to you. He sort of gives up his right to his own fantasies when they potentially involve such a brutal (and criminal) activity.

 

The thing you do need to consider is that it is the people who have the fantasies/desires that do the enacting. Mr Vanilla does not steal women's underwear from the clothesline. Mr Vanilla does not stalk young chidren. Mr Vanilla does not require a violent episode to get sexually excited.

[LBP]

Well that's not good reasoning. How can anyone be entertained by any of the Saw movies, or Arnold blowing some dudes head off? I mean torture and MURDER?!?

 

Personally speaking, I think that it is pretty sick to enjoy those Saw movies. I used to write film reviews and was forced to 'do' Saw 3... Afterward, I gave it the benefit of the doubt, figuring that sure, if you liked torture films, it may be almost decent. I gave a C, or something similar. I regret that review every day. That crap was despicable and I had a duty to describe it as such.

[Samedy]

Well that's not good reasoning. How can anyone be entertained by any of the Saw movies, or Arnold blowing some dudes head off? I mean torture and MURDER?!? The millions of people who watch those surely can't all be sickos

 

If it's fake, it's fake. People are entertained by a bunch of different things in fantasy land. And it really doesn't matter what we all think about it.

 

But people don't use those movies to feel sexually gratified. If someone used the Saw movies to get their rocks off, I would think they are extremely messed up, and that would most definitely be a red flag.

[1MoreChance]

Personally speaking, I think that it is pretty sick to enjoy those Saw movies. I used to write film reviews and was forced to 'do' Saw 3... Afterward, I gave it the benefit of the doubt, figuring that sure, if you liked torture films, it may be almost decent. I gave a C, or something similar. I regret that review every day. That crap was despicable and I had a duty to describe it as such.

 

 

 

I agree with you. The Chainsaw massacre type movies are far from everyone's cup of tea. there are also many images of violence towards women in particular in those types of movies, the aim being to see "sexy" women being tortured. Their is definitelly an innuendo to them being assualted on a sexual level. if on top of that, someone got direct sexual gratification from that crap, it would be extra cause from concern. Yet the rape vids are ok because this day in age, we must be so "open minded" about sexuality and "fantasies"?

 

I remember stumbling upon a copy of Halloween at my ex's brother's house. we decided to watch it, I told him I heard John Carpenter's Halloween was a classic. Turns out it was a version by some dude named "Zombie" or something, uncut, and it had a disturbing rape scene in it. Some people are messed up. I don't understand why someone would want to see such a gratuitous rape and violence scene.

[Doc Blaze]

yeah rob zombie..all his movies are a little out there...

[1MoreChance]

yeah rob zombie..all his movies are a little out there...

 

 

A LITTLE out there?

 

it was an insult to Carpenter's classic.

[Doc Blaze]

A LITTLE out there?

 

it was an insult to Carpenter's classic.

 

its w/e im not a big fan of his movies...they arent

scary ,they are nasty

[iLiveWithMyMom]

And rape fantasies are supposed to be quite common.

 

In prison? Seriously, I guess no one would admit it publicly anyway, but I find it hard to believe this is anything close to common. I'd probably go as far to say that if you're not feeling palpable anger at the thought of some dirty scumbag raping someone and destroying every ounce of their dignity, then there's something wrong with you.

[Fantasy2000]

Hello. I am a regular here at Enotalone but I am using a different name because of the topic of this thread. I feel that if I used my real username then I would be judged and possibly people wouldn't answer anymore of my threads when I have problems, and maybe not listen to any advice I give them when I respond to posts.

 

I am into rape porn. I am a female, 25 years old. I watch rape porn but from reputable websites so that I know it is fake. I don't get turned on by actual rape, like if I saw someone being raped on the street I would call the police, not get off to it. And I wouldn't like to be properly raped either, but I like it rough at times. My other half is aware of my fantasies and supports them, as I do his. Between us we have some interesting ones! But that is where they stay, in the bedroom and consensual. I also like to watch porn involving drunk/drugged girls but again, fake. It's something about being taken advantage of, I enjoy the thought of it. But just the thoughts.

 

I am a mature and level headed person. Not been abused as a kid or anything, never been raped. I have a good job, a great family and close friends. I really couldn't be more normal when you look at my life. I guess my porn habits are strange but then again... I think there is worse out there than rape porn. Like actual rape. Or child/animal porn. I draw the line at that. Because it is not consensual.

[jul-els]

I dated a girl once who had rape fantasies. I liked the sex so I played along. Didn't do anything for me personally, but it got her off.

[mikelopez]

I think he just likes the girl in pain lol. They say I am a monster in bed and I take out my anger during sex so I believe and I have never and never plan to rape a girl. I have a deep respect for women but I also enjoy watching the art of porn lol

[heloladies21]

It's too bad that the judgmental group on here have silenced you to this point that you have to make a fake profile to avoid the criticism. Moral police, what purpose do you serve anyways?

 

My and my girl like it rough, and fake "rape porn" ain't too bad in our books. But according to some, I'm now going to want to go out into the real world and support or even commit real rape? Is that really the way I think? We're Mr. and Miss Vanilla by the way, professionals and very mainstream by most other measures.

[greywolf]

Haven't read through all of the posts yet (I will eventually), but I have a couple of points here. What someone watches doesn't necessarily mean they want to do it in real life. Ever watched Japanese porn? They can get pretty realistic with their rape porn. Thank god for the censoring of genitals. /sarcasm

 

What I'd really base it on is whether it is legal porn, and not underground porn. I've watched rape porn a couple of times, and I've watched plenty of hentai where there's usually a rape scene and at least one tentacle sex scene, and I don't really think it's different from watching a movie where people kill each other.

 

Also OP, I saw in one of your posts that you said your bf is a very gentle person. Rape fantasies might be his way of releasing the more aggressive side of him.

[greywolf]

Or why don't we just look at a psychological definition and define "levelheaded" and "mature" as someone who has healthy self esteem, self confidence, self image, knows where they are going in life and is generally HAPPY?

 

If those are things needed to be a levelheaded consenting adult, then that cancels out a lot of people. Should we find all these people with low self esteem etc. and tell them that we think they're not levelheaded enough to decide what's best for them on their own?

[iLiveWithMyMom]

It's too bad that the judgmental group on here have silenced you to this point that you have to make a fake profile to avoid the criticism. Moral police, what purpose do you serve anyways?

 

My and my girl like it rough, and fake "rape porn" ain't too bad in our books. But according to some, I'm now going to want to go out into the real world and support or even commit real rape? Is that really the way I think? We're Mr. and Miss Vanilla by the way, professionals and very mainstream by most other measures.

 

I don't understand. No one is threatening to come to your house with pitchforks and torches in hand. You have your views, and others have their's. Would you prefer everyone just lie about the way they feel on certain subjects due to fear of hurting someone's feelings? Would kind of defeat the purpose of this forum, I think.

 

BTW there's a big difference between a guy being aggressive and in control during sex (even being "forcibly persuasive") vs flat-out rape on a struggling and wholly unwilling participant. I just don't see how anyone could be turned on by that. I also don't see how people can distinguish between reality and fantasy when it comes to something like this. Either you're turned on by the thought of a woman being raped, or you're not. It's pretty black and white to me.

[heloladies21]

I don't understand. No one is threatening to come to your house with pitchforks and torches in hand. You have your views, and others have their's. Would you prefer everyone just lie about the way they feel on certain subjects due to fear of hurting someone's feelings? Would kind of defeat the purpose of this forum, I think..

Oh it's fine for people to speak their minds. Everybody is making judgments, I'm just judging right back to show how irrational the thinking is. And I'm allowed to do it with equal force as I've seen here.

 

BTW there's a big difference between a guy being aggressive and in control during sex (even being "forcibly persuasive") vs flat-out rape on a struggling and wholly unwilling participant.

Totally tangent to any concept I addressed.

I just don't see how anyone could be turned on by that. I also don't see how people can distinguish between reality and fantasy when it comes to something like this. Either you're turned on by the thought of a woman being raped, or you're not. It's pretty black and white to me.

I'm definitely very able to separate reality from fantasy. Someone who's not able to do that is probably the one that needs the most help.

[jul-els]

I don't understand. No one is threatening to come to your house with pitchforks and torches in hand. You have your views, and others have their's. Would you prefer everyone just lie about the way they feel on certain subjects due to fear of hurting someone's feelings? Would kind of defeat the purpose of this forum, I think.

 

I believe that poster did that to avoid the judgement of knee-jerk morality that such a statement can cause. I don't blame them at all.

 

BTW there's a big difference between a guy being aggressive and in control during sex (even being "forcibly persuasive") vs flat-out rape on a struggling and wholly unwilling participant. I just don't see how anyone could be turned on by that. I also don't see how people can distinguish between reality and fantasy when it comes to something like this. Either you're turned on by the thought of a woman being raped, or you're not. It's pretty black and white to me.

 

Exactly. It's the idea that causes arousal, not the act. When I dated someone who was into that, I did it to satisfy her and I enjoyed it, too. Not because I shared in her fantasy but the sex was very passionate. It was never violent, though. I'm not into the rough stuff. She just liked the thought and act of being "taken" in a very passionate way. In my experience, this game never came anywhere close to resembling the reality.