1MoreChance Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I think he just likes the girl in pain lol. They say I am a monster in bed and I take out my anger during sex so I believe and I have never and never plan to rape a girl. I have a deep respect for women but I also enjoy watching the art of porn lol I think you sum it up in an honest way. You enjoy seeing the girl (or woman) "in pain". Though I don't like to read your words, at least you're honest. and what you are honest about is preciselly what makes me feel a dislike and disgust for you and would keep me away from you. Really, I mean no disrespect, just trying to have you and everybody understand that just as you are turned on by watching a woman in pain (physical pain of rape, terror of being raped (even more so when it is gang rape, which I am sure a lot of those scenes are), degradation and humiliation of sexual assault, complete attack on integrity and assault on personal boundaries), I am turned off by the fact that a man is turned on by seeing a woman go through the pain of such an experience. But, again, I appreciate your honnesty. The women who enjoy these same vids have a deep masochistic tendency and the men who enjoy them a sadistic one. Link to comment
greywolf Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The women who enjoy these same vids have a deep masochistic tendency and the men who enjoy them a sadistic one. Not necessarily. When I'm able to stomach rape porn, it's because I don't relate to the women at the moment. Link to comment
1MoreChance Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Not necessarily. When I'm able to stomach rape porn, it's because I don't relate to the women at the moment. I find it interesting that you call it being "able to stomach rape porn". It's like when I am abe to stomach eating maggots, I don't relate to feeling like I am gonna vomit. Why on earth would I choose to eat the maggots in the first place? Why are you choosing to view rape porn in the first place then? Is it fashionable in your crowd or something? What are you relating to during the moment that you are "able to stomach" rape porn and not relate to the women being raped? The rapist? I really don't see your point. Link to comment
heloladies21 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well in the end the holier-than-thou crowd are going to be set in their opinion on this sort of thing. The best thing everyone else can do is to just ignore them and keep doing what they want to do. Link to comment
jul-els Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The bottom line here is the difference between sex and violence. If someone is "getting off" to violence, there is a very real chance it has nothing to do with sexual desire, but a pathological desire to do harm. That's why the videos found by the OP should be a cause for concern. But if it's just pretend to break into the house, grab me, throw me on the bed, hold me down while I pretend to struggle and f me like a beast as it was with the girl I dated, then it's just harmless perfectly healthy sex. The OP needs to find out exactly what's going on in her bf's mind. The discovery of the videos bring up a serious point that needs to be immediately and openly addressed by the two of them. It's a serious matter of an adult nature and not a time for childish fears of recrimination. Only she can decide if she believes her bf has the potential to commit any atrocities and whether or not she is in a potentially unsafe situation. Link to comment
1MoreChance Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 That is a funny post. Holier-than-thou for not supporting rape... You obviously don't have any sisters, daughters, or female friends. Hell, or any compassion whatsoever. Good for you. I was not surprised by that post. I think some people see us as moralistic, prudish, waayyyy old fashioned, closed minded, because we actually have a point of view that goes beyond "live and let live" when it comes to certain issues. Personally I think the viewing of such material IS a cause for concern. If someone wants to believe that I am a nun for it, all the power to them. Heck I'd rather eat maggots than live with someone I call my SO who enjoys that crap. Link to comment
greywolf Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I find it interesting that you call it being "able to stomach rape porn". It's like when I am abe to stomach eating maggots, I don't relate to feeling like I am gonna vomit. Why on earth would I choose to eat the maggots in the first place? Why are you choosing to view rape porn in the first place then? Is it fashionable in your crowd or something? What are you relating to during the moment that you are "able to stomach" rape porn and not relate to the women being raped? The rapist? I really don't see your point. My point is that I'm not masochistic. As for watching it... honestly, I don't watch rape porn too much. If I watch it it's because some hentai I watched had a rape sex scene in it. For people that watch hentai, they know that every hentai has at least one rape sex scene, a lot of times in the form of tentacle sex lol. Asians just like their rape porn, I guess. Link to comment
1MoreChance Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 My point is that I'm not masochistic. Sorry, it is still unclear to me why you put it in terms of being "able to stomach" the stuff. Usually we say that when we don't enjoy somwthing. so why watch it in the first place? Link to comment
greywolf Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Sorry, it is still unclear to me why you put it in terms of being "able to stomach" the stuff. Usually we say that when we don't enjoy somwthing. so why watch it in the first place? It meant that a lot of times I can't watch it, and other times when I'm feeling pretty deviant, it's easy to watch. Link to comment
Samedy Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well in the end the holier-than-thou crowd are going to be set in their opinion on this sort of thing. The best thing everyone else can do is to just ignore them and keep doing what they want to do. Before you used the legality of rape porn as a defense to it's legitamacy. "In the UK, it was announced on August 30, 2006 that possession of depictions of rape would become a criminal offence,[2] including those involving consenting adults, and images which are faked. However, the resultant law on "extreme pornography" did not explicitly specify depictions of rape. In September 2008, Scotland announced its own plans to criminalise possession of "extreme" pornography, this time extending the list of banned material to include depictions of rape, and "other non-consensual penetrative sexual activity, whether violent or otherwise".[3]" I want to also point out, that you have several times used negative labels against people who have a different opinion than you. More than any other person in this thread. You are also the same person who talks about people being overly judgemental. * You have also not answered my question about fantasies about raping children. Link to comment
1MoreChance Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It meant that a lot of times I can't watch it, and other times when I'm feeling pretty deviant, it's easy to watch. Sorry, that sounds weird. sometimes you "can't watch it", so admitedly it is too hard to "stomach"... when you feel "deviant".... it is "easy to watch" (IMO it IS deviant to enjoy rape porn... what do you mean by feeling "deviant" (descibe more preciselly yout thoughts, emotions,... that make it become "easy to watch")? Link to comment
LBP Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Before you used the legality of rape porn as a defense to it's legitamacy. "In the UK, it was announced on August 30, 2006 that possession of depictions of rape would become a criminal offence,[2] including those involving consenting adults, and images which are faked. However, the resultant law on "extreme pornography" did not explicitly specify depictions of rape. In September 2008, Scotland announced its own plans to criminalise possession of "extreme" pornography, this time extending the list of banned material to include depictions of rape, and "other non-consensual penetrative sexual activity, whether violent or otherwise".[3]" I want to also point out, that you have several times used negative labels against people who have a different opinion than you. More than any other person in this thread. You are also the same person who talks about people being overly judgemental. * You have also not answered my question about fantasies about raping children. This is a slippery slope. I'm not sure I agree with this porn being illegal, especially if it's made in controlled environments and is more or less consensual. That it is illegal in the UK is an illustrative difference between our countries and cultures. Doesn't change my opinion on rape porn. I don't watch it and it doesn't make me happy that other people do. That said, I'm not losing sleep over it. I'm not a fan of any number of creeds and ideologies, but that doesn't mean they should be illegal. It's all very confusing. Would that humanity could be governed by a simple set of rules... Link to comment
amipushy Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Sorry, that sounds weird. sometimes you "can't watch it", so admitedly it is too hard to "stomach"... when you feel "deviant".... it is "easy to watch" (IMO it IS deviant to enjoy rape porn... what do you mean by feeling "deviant" (descibe more preciselly yout thoughts, emotions,... that make it become "easy to watch")? I can't answer for someone else but when I am feeling particulary dirty minded, anything turns me on and I'll search out for something a little bit risky, downright filthy and yes I have seen rape scenes but most end up with the woman loving it tbh) cos it gets me off and its what I WANT to watch at that time. But sometimes when I feel like a need a little loving - gentler sex turns me on so I search for something a little bit less filthy, possibly lesbian or just oral and the thought of watching the stuff I watched when I felt filthy minded etc IS hard to stomach.That doesnt make me deviant it makes me human. Link to comment
greywolf Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Sorry, that sounds weird. sometimes you "can't watch it", so admitedly it is too hard to "stomach"... when you feel "deviant".... it is "easy to watch" (IMO it IS deviant to enjoy rape porn... what do you mean by feeling "deviant" (descibe more preciselly yout thoughts, emotions,... that make it become "easy to watch")? I was just giving my opinion on the subject. However, I don't really feel a need to explain myself. Link to comment
AKittyGoesMoo Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 If you look into your heart and it doesn't bother you, then don't let us boggle your mind with our opinions. This is something that you're going to have to live with, not us. If you're truly okay with it and aren't thinking about red flag indicators, then it's going to be okay. But the instant it starts to distress you, you need to talk to him about it (in depth) ASAP. Link to comment
1MoreChance Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 ... and the thought of watching the stuff I watched when I felt filthy minded etc IS hard to stomach.That doesnt make me deviant it makes me human. I question whether that's healthy. Link to comment
1MoreChance Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I was just giving my opinion on the subject. However, I don't really feel a need to explain myself. that's too bad, you are keeping us from better understanding you and how you think. cause like I said before I cannot relate (a bunch of us can't) and it seems unhealthy to me. but you're free to not exlpain. it's your choice and I respect that. Link to comment
greywolf Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 If I felt like people were asking questions because they did want to understand better, then that'd be fine. It feels more like you're finding stuff to attack me with. Link to comment
IphigeniaSaysHi Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 It's similar to the understanding of pedophilia in some way... people want to know why, but it doesn't change how they feel about it. Link to comment
Lucabrasi Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 A couple nights ago, I watched Harry Potter. In it there is an evil female wizard who acts out killing one of the good guys (serious black). the good guy gets hit, holds his chest, gasps for air and then drops to the ground. how could someone act out something as sick as death? I highly doubt that actor was "level-headed" at the time, and certainly not mature, becuase if he was (no matter how much they paid him), he has to be pretty messed up to put himself in such a film. What disgusts me more than the film and the actors, is how "damaged" you have to be to enjoy watching a movie like that. Is that what you call entertainment? Honestly, I have never seen so many disturbed 13 year olds. Don't their parents teach them that death is a horrible thing? Link to comment
IphigeniaSaysHi Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 ^What if they actually filmed that character being murdered and people masturbated to it? Does that change your melodrama scene? Link to comment
Lucabrasi Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 *My opinion/perspective* Fantasies are one thing, but I think it changes when you start looking for videos of these actions. Fantasies take place in your mind, so none of the people you fantasies about actually get hurt; not matter how immoral they are. But videos, videos are different. Those are real people in those videos, they fantasizer is seeking out their fantasy, trying to make it more real. From what I read here, you're saying that fantasizing about rape is okay, but once you see it acted out on camera, it becomes not okay? Link to comment
Samedy Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 From what I read here, you're saying that fantasizing about rape is okay, but once you see it acted out on camera, it becomes not okay? No. Re-read the entire thread (not just the single post) and put my reply into context. Also pay attention to what I was replying too. I was going to put it down here, but I realized I would just be restating what I already said. Link to comment
Lucabrasi Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The fact that you exist debases the entire arguments of a few posters in this thread. Unless of course it is not actually true, you being level headed and mature..... Sounds like it to me though Link to comment
Lucabrasi Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 ^What if they actually filmed that character being murdered and people masturbated to it? Does that change your melodrama scene? We are talking about rape porn here right? Not a video of a crime? Kinda like BDSM porn is not actually a video of an assault? I want to make sure we are making that distinction. Regarding the masturbating part, I don't see the relevance of that comment. Is it okay to be entertained by a death movie but not okay to be turned on by a rape movie? Link to comment
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