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I've just finished high school just over a month ago. All the way through high school there was a girl that i liked on and off, not really enough to do anything about it, because i was chasing other girls at the time. She left school a few months before it ended to go on a course. Throughout the year (when she was at school) we were on friendly terms. We werent exactly good friends, but we talked occasionally, and hung out at school in the same group of friends. She sat in my lap once when there werent any seating spaces left. I got the feeling after a while that she might like me because she looked at me often and laughed a lot at my jokes. I didn't tell her that i liked her because i knew she had a boyfriend the whole time. I have never even hinted to her that i might like her so she probably still has no idea. At one point in the year, while sitting at a table during lunchbreak, i was talking to a friend via text, and she asked who i was talking to. I told her who it was (i know for sure she wasn't attracted to this guy in any way whatsoever) She started telling me to send dodgy joke messages to him about me, him and her going to her house and doing THINGS. My friend then asked her for her number through me by text. (he wasnt being serious, we were doing this beacuse we were really bored) To my surprise she gave me her cellphone number and told me to send it to him. She then said that she won't reply to his messages anyway. I got the impression that she wanted ME to have her number. I saved the number but never called or texted her. A few weeks after she left school the prom was on. She was there with her boyfriend. We had a quick chat about how her life was going, and then she insisted on getting a photo with me. I havent talked to her or seen her since (like 3 months). I know that she broke up with her boyfriend because he left the country to live somewhere else. On christmas day i was texting everyone i knew "Merry Christmas", including her. She responded with "who is this?" (she didn't have my number). I said who i was and she replied "Oh haha cool. Merry christmas to u too". I reckon this was a positive answer and she was happy to hear from me, although its hard to tell from just that. Ive been thinking of texting her again seeing if she wants to hang out, catch up, and if she's single, go out. But i don't know how to do this without it seeming a bit weird (I mean, i havent talked to her for a long time). What could i say? Was she attracted to me or was she just being friendly?

lol actually i'm the dungoen master, and if i'm a character it's usually a Half-Elf Bard

Hey thanks guys for the supportive words. I know it will get better, i just hope it happens soon. I have about 2 months till university. I don't know how i'm going to get through that but i know i will. Looks like im gonna spend a lot of the holidays playing dungeons and dragons - yay

Hi i'm a guy, almost 18 and i'm feeling very sad at the moment. My whole life, although generally uneventful has been happy. I'm intelligent, funny, good looking (so i have been told). i'm going to university next year, i have a caring family, a great if not small group of friends (both male and female) who really care about me. My hobbies mostly consist of listening to, downloading, hearing and researching new music and bands (i'm an obsessive prog-rock fan- yea go the Mars Volta) But many things have happened lately: 1. I have just finished high school which is a bit sad but i'm really looking forward to university. Leaving my great school full of awesome teachers and great memories is very sad. 2. The girl i have liked for almost a year (i've posted a ****load about her) Has rejected me for the third time, and now is going away for half a year. It's not too terrible tho, because unlike most other girls she is really making an effort to be nice to me and really enjoys my company as a friend. (i think she felt worse for rejecting me than i felt for getting rejected - at least thats the way it seemed at the time) 3. Half of my group of friends are all going away to universities all over the country so its quite likely ill never see them again, or at least for a very long time. 4. It's the holidays now and other than working i don't know what the hell i'm going to do. I feel like i'm going to have a very lonely summer holiday, apart from the fact that i've been invited by one of my friends to spend the christmas period with his family (because mine will be away from home for a few weeks then). Practically my social skills are terrible. I'm a geek that people really like once they get to know me. Yes - i have my group of 15 or so good friends, but i've known them for 5 years, and have hardly met anyone new. I have never had a girlfriend either (why does just about every single girl i DON'T like have to have a crush on me, but every girl i DO like, only want to be friends at most?) 5. My guy friends are the ones i spend most of my time with. The thing is that my two best friends both have girlfriends and are too buisy spending time alone with them to do anything with me, and the friends that don't have girlfriends spend all their time playing computer games and trading card games. I mean i enjoy TCGs and CGs, but i'd really like to get out more , meet new people, finally get a girlfriend, and these guys have no motivation whatsoever to leave their houses. I'm pretty much feeling very lonely now, with the girl of my dreams out of reach and overseas, many friends moving away or too buisy to do anything with me. But my life has been similar to this the whole time, and i've occasionally felt a bit frustrated but i've never felt like i just want to sit at home and wallow in self-pity. Everyone is always amazed at how constantly happy i am, and if i tell someone who knows me well that i've had a bad day they assume someone in my family must have died (okay i exaggerate, but i'm overall a happy person) I know people say get a hobby, play a sport. I have plenty of hobbies, i do sports, i have a part time job. i'm buisy doing something almost every waking hour, i am more active than any of my other friends. But still this feeling persists. What can i do to feel better? Has anyone been in a situation like this where life is pretty much great, a bright future ahead of you, but you feel sad and lonely anyway?

Oh, she told everyone she's going on holiday (she's not moving, just going away for six months), she made it known to everyone. Some new stuff has happened, basically a conversation we had led up to me asking her about wether this new-found knowledge is true (i know you guys said to leave it, but it seemed to make sense at the time). It was thru text once again, she seems to be avoiding any encounters with me where we might be alone, but she still talks through text almost every day, usually intiating the conversation. She said that it's partially true, that she was undecided for a little while as to wether she liked me, but the answer is no, but she probably did owe me an explanation ( referring to the study thing from my previous post i think, she seemed to feel guilty about making it seem like it might involve more than just studying) . (She didn't actually say that she did'nt like me, just that it's not true, although i doubt that means anything). She really sounded like she was sorry to have to reject me and wanted to make sure i would be alright. I also found out from another friend that she was undecided because she likes another guy. I'm guessing that she just picked him over me, but just like with me she's not saying anything because she's going away. She said she's really sorry. I told her "i'd rather have the cold hard truth than nothing and that it's alright". She then said that "it's really nice how i don't push a point and that guys who won't leave you alone are dumb." She said it's an "Admirable quality". In response i said that i'm still hopoeful she'll change her mind one day. We then agreed that this won't in any way change the fact that we're still friends. I think she really does want to at least be friends cos she texted me less than 24 hours later to just have our usual conversation about what we both did today.She said that she does want to stay in touch thru e-mail when shes away. I'm probably going to leave things till she gets back from her holiday. I still have a few other girls to chase after, it's just that she's on the top of my "wish list" It's just that i can't help the feeling that if she got to know me more she'd change her mind. i mean, we've never met alone outside of school so she doesn't know me all that well, but by the sounds of things she wants to stay friends when she gets back, so no doubt she will get to know me then, and this guy she likes is known for never being single for long and i don't think anything will happen between them after she gets back. . Question: do you guys think that she likes me but won't say so because she likes another guy more? For the girls: if you're unsure as to wether you like a guy, do u really make up your mind just like that, or do i still have hope here?

hey i don't want anyone dying of sleep depravation beacuse of me, if you stay awake too long you start slurring your speech and people start thinking you have a speech impediment or something. 24 hours is long enough. And i'm not sure but a lack of sleep might just make you seem funnier to yourself. I would'nt know cos i only stay up a long time if i'm with friends who don't sleep either.

hey i just posted a new topic (i probably should have added it to this instead. oh well), about this and it kinda changes the situation completely. It's the "wow! this was unexpected! but what now" post

I've posted recently about a girl i liked in my "does she like me now" post. Well, through a friend i found out some information that would explain everything. So i was right and even tho she basically did reject me three times, it turns out that she does like me The reason she didn't say so is because she is going soon overseas for a six-month holiday and she thought there's no point in starting anything, because she'll be away for a long time. This took me by surprise. But what do i do? She doesn't know i know. I really like her and i would quite gladly wait for her for six months, but is it a good idea to talk to her about it? Could it be that she's afraid she'd miss me or something? i don't want to lose contact with her, or have her come back and decide she does'nt like me anymore. She does want to keep in touch because she's asked for my e-mail so she can talk to me while she's away. What do i do?

I've found i get a lot more confident while drunk. I'm normally quite shy, but when i'm drunk i open up a lot more and talk even to strangers without being shy. Often i become the 'center of the show' with people just sitting and listening to the stories i tell. My friends tell me that i'm incredibly funny when i'm drunk, and that's in a good way. I just seem wittier and more full of energy. I've never let myself get absolutely wasted, and luckily i seem to never get hang-overs. If you can control yourself like i can (most of the time), i say drink away, but not too much and not too often (for me it's like once a month). A strange thing - when i get a bit drunk, like everyone i get attracted to girls more, even if i don't normally feel that way. The weird thing is that when i sober up, these feelings often remain. The girl i currently like, i would have never even thought of liking until a few a months ago. I used to think she was actually kinda ugly. when i got drunk at a party she was at, i talked with her the whole time (attracting a large audience at the same time), and found that she suddenly was a lot prettier than i thought before. I've asked her out twice since (i'd known her for like 6 years) About initiating things, i find it difficult to initiate anything with a girl. I've only asked three girls out in my life (each one twice tho) and two of them was by text message so i don't know if that even counts. I do want to be the one initiating tho, and i don't feel too worried when i do get rejected cos it gives you an awesome adrenaline rush. I find a lack of sleep can be just as effective as getting drunk. It makes people a lot funnier.

do u guys think i should talk about it with her?

Yea, i know. You tell urself, ok i'm gonna stop trying and maybe they'll come to me. But no, nothing happens. I've just finished high school, and i'm going to university in a few months, so it'll give me a chance to meet new people. If anyone has any advice on how to meet girls and not be just friends, now would be a useful time to spill it. Anything i could do during the holidays, any changes i could make?

I am almost 18 and I've never gone out with a girl. It's not that i'm desparate and i want any girl that'll take me, but i always get rejected, always getting the whole "I like u as a friend" speech. Various girls have told me that i'm sweet, nice, funny, good looking and cute. They love talking to me. They love to punch me, poke, hit me, tickle me. So why then do they never like me as more than a friend? What can i do to change this?

Sorry about this post being so long guys, i just wanted to write in all the details. I posted a few months ago about a girl i liked. Ive known her for over seven years, but have only been friends for one year and i've only actually liked her more than as a friend for half. I told her via txt a few months ago that i liked her, and i got the whole "I like you as a friend and don't want to ruin that friendship" thing. From this site i got the advice i expected and knew already: she probably doesn't like me that much and quite likely not even as a friend. But i don't understand. She seems to be attracted to me. She laughs at all my jokes, I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE. Even the ones that aren't funny. She always smile sweetly whenever she sees me, and i seem to be the first guy she says hello to every morning at school from our mutual group of friends (about 18 people). I always catch her glancing at me, and if we make eye contact she always smiles and mouthes a silent "hi" to me. We never talk on the phone, only meet outside of school if it's a gathering of our whole group. She has asked me if i have msn but i don't. but we talk very often via txt. She seems to only text me once every two or three weeks, but in that week we spend pretty much every single night talking. She's pretty much the one initiating conversation every time. Shes also constantly bugging me to get MSN so i can talk to her while she's overseas on a six-month holiday later this year. Now a few nights ago she texted me, and the conversation led to us talking about our upcoming exams (in like 5 days). She's not very good at maths so she asked for help with a question. I texted her back with some help, and then she asked if I want to meet up in the weekend and study together. I was quite surprised by this because she has a lot of girl and guy friends who are much better at math than me. The next day i asked her if she's still up for math on saturday and she said sure. one of her friends then said something about how "studying" might have a double meaning (everyone including the girl i like knows that i like her cos i other than telling her by sms i like her, i also asked her to the prom (and got, although nicely, turned down)) the girl i like then laughed sort of nervously and said that it would have been a bit dodgier if i said we were going to study biology. Yesterday we had our last day of school. At the end of the day she came up to me and said "Umm about saturday, it's quite close to the exams, maybe it'd be better if i just studied by myself this weekend, i think that would be more productive. Sorry, i truly had every intention of studying, but yea.." i said that it would probably be good to test each other, and she said "maybe, i dunno i'll see. Ill text you." She then smiled as sweetly as ever and said bye. I don't want to be overanalyzing or anything, but does she like me? She turned me down twice nicely, but seems to like talking to me. I did overhear someone talking about her a while ago and saying "oh my god, how many guys does she like?". Did she try to cancel the study thing because she really thought it would be better to study alone? (I mean, she was the one who asked me) Did she ask me to study with her because she really needed help or because she likes spending time with me? Should i confront her and tell her i still like her? (i think i've made it pretty obvious, but it has been a long time since i told her)

Well, initiating contact in person is a little difficult cos she now sits at the other end of the class with a large group of her friends, who i don't know. Oh and lets just say i'm more than a little shy. I'm not really sure how to satrt a conversation just like that without it seeming a bit weird.

At the start of the school year in my biology class i was sitting next to a girl. We talked all the time and got on really well in class, although we never did anything out of class. I was always shy because she was so attractive and seemed really confident (she even asked me jokingly if i wanted to get drunk with her in the bushes behind the school field at lunchtime). After a few weeeks, a mutual friend of ours told me the girl i like (no one kenw i did like her) likes me and wants to know if i like her. I said "sort of". I wasnt sure i wanted to express my feelings straight away. The girl i liked then texted me that evening and we talked. I asked her out, but she told me she'd rather stay friends for now. The next day in biology was really awkward. None of us said a word to each other, i think she was more nervous than i was. We talked via text message a lot for the next two weeks or so, and it was clear that she l;iked me, and i made it clear i liked her, but we hardly talked in class, because we were for some reason terrified of each other. After these two weeks i told her that this is getting a bit silly and we should at least hang out together and start talking in person, she said that she was buisy and made up lots of different excuses why she couldn't hang out with me. From then on she stopped talking and texting me altogether. That was about five months ago. Since then we haven't said a word to each other, although i catch her looking at me in class basically every few minutes. She has never made an effort to talk to me. On friday night was our school prom. I didn't have a date and neither did she. I only saw her once, and she didn't look at me as far as i could tell. She hung out with her friends i hung out with mine. The next morning i got a text message from her telling me that i "looked great last night" and asking me if i had fun. I replied with "thanks you looked great too. I had lots of fun" she replied with "cool", and the conversation ended there. I might be overanalyzing, but isn't it weird that after half a year of saying nothing she sends me a message like that? What do u guys think?

Hi, i've already posted about this girl twice (the posts are probably still floating around somewhere). We are pretty good friends, although we've never really met up outside of school. I asked her out about a month ago but she said that shes flattered that i would like her like that, but she likes me as a friend and doesn't want to ruin that friendship. I told her that if she ever changes her mind ill be there. She said that that was very sweet of me. she's been very nice to me, as always, always smiling to me and saying hello. The school prom is coming up and i was thinking of asking her. A few of her girl friends keep asking me when i'm going to ask her (they know about me liking her, and they knew before she did because they're friends of mine as well), i don't know what it might mean. I know they were having bets on wether i would ask her first or if my good friend who also likes her would ask her first. I found out that a few days ago he did ask her out to the prom and she did'nt want to go with him. - Her friends made a point of telling me this fact I want to ask her to the prom, but after she rejected me i'm not sure if there's any point.

There's a girl i've liked for a while. I've known her for about 6 years, but never really liked her until now. A few weeks ago i was at a friends party and she was there too. I got a wee bit drunk and was sitting next to her basically the whole time, telling stupid jokes to her and anyone around me. She seemed to find them all funny even if they we'rent actually that funny (one sign she might like me). She also asked if she can have a sip of my beer (i heard that this means she is attracted to me bcos she doesn't mind swapping saliva with me). That night i also asked her for her number and she gave it to me without any questioning (is this also a sign?). When i went away for a week to fiji she was really interested in how it was. She seems to always be listening to me, even when buisy texting someone. There is one thing that makes me doubtful. We've never had an actual serious conversation that lasted more that a minute. I was thinking of asking her out by text message (it's easier cos im a bit shy) next friday before the school holidays. Should i? Does she like me?

There's a girl i like who likes me too (i've already posted once about her). She told me thru txt messagea few weeks ago. I've asked her out twice, and she told me that she wants to just be friends (for now, i think). But it's very hard being friends with her when she's terrified of me. I'm not much better either. We basically never talk cos were too nervous around each other. What do i do about this, how do i start talking to her (we were fine before we knew we liked each other, we talked in class all the time)? Theres another thing. There's another girl i also like, and i suspect she might like me too. I want to ask her out, but im afarid i might hurt the first girl's feelings. Is it alright to be friends with one girl that you like and she likes you, while dating another girl? I really need help cos im basically stuck in one place and making zero progress with either of the girls.

I've known this girl at school for about 5 years. We've never been close friends but we occasionally talk in class. She laughs at allmyjokes and seems to enjoy my company. I'venever really considered it, but lately i've found that i like her. A LOT Last friday She was at my friend's party and so was I. I asked for her cellphone number and she gave it to me gladly. Now what do i do. She probably has no idea i like her (well now that i asked for her number she might suspect something.) There is one BIG problem. My good friend (the one at who's party i was) likes her too. He denies it around most people, but he told me he likes her. He also knows that i like her because i told him after the party. He told me that he's too afarid to ask her out. He didn't say anything about me liking her too. He is friends with this girl as well. The three of us have known each other for like 5 years. I really don't know what to do. I want to ask this girl out but i don't want to upset my friend. He's already been through something like this recently where his friend went out with the girl he liked. He stayed friends with thi guy and the girl, but he was very upset for a while. He's too afraid to ask her out. I'm kinda scared but if it wasn't for him i'd do it. What do i do? I thought of saying to him: "I like her but i want to stay friends, i'll ask her out in a week. You have the chance now. Do it now. If you don't there is the chance that you won't get another chance." But i don't know if that's such a great idea. HELP

She seems to think i feel obligated to date her. It may be the fact that i was a little afraid to expose my feelings for her at first. When she first told me she likes me she also asked me if i like her, and i told her "sort of". It was just i was a little shocked by her declartation and wasn't really too sure of what to say at first. I did tell her the next day that i was sure i liked her. She may still think i'm unsure if i like her, and that's why she asked me if i'm asking her out because i want, or feel i have to.

I've liked a girl ine the start of thi year. I've known her for a while but hve never really talked to her. About a week ago she told me she liked me in a text message. I told her i liked her too. The next day i was sitting next to her in class and we were both really nervous and awkward. We didn't talk much. This carried on for the next 3 or so days except for the fact that we were constantly talking via txt message outide of class. On friday we began talking in class and talked for the whole hour we were in biology. After school i asked her out using a txt message. She asked me if i'm asking her out because i want to or because i feel i have to (?) . To this i replied"because i want to". She answered saying that we should be friends for now... So what do i do? I really like her, but we only really se each other for an hour every day in biology, not during break because we are from two totally different groups of friends. How long hould i wait before asking her out again? How should i act round her?

Mandy Moore or Tara Reid.

I wolda thought its the toilet...

I don't know if it is really that, but i tried it and it worked for me, to stop pimples appearing drink lots of camomile tea. It helped me lots, or it might have just been a coincidence.

Hey, thanx for the advice, the only thing that i don't really get is the fact that she is quiet around me, cos she's not the type of person who would get nervous around someone they like, and also, she doesn't ever go out of her way to see me or anything.