titan1

It can be a flirt, but no guarantees.... it can also just be a way to loosen up a group.... especially if your touching/embracing a group. Some people are always touchy-feely. Some people say hello to everyone with a hand on the trap.... in some sense it can establish a strong alpha presense.. and intimidate people.. othertimes just a persons style.. If as you pass by, probably higher odds on flirt..... rolling your hand over her arm as you walk by as sort of a hello... more of a flirt thing

You enter this world alone and you leave this world alone... Milds well get used to being alone while living.................. The tale of the 3-Alones..

Bad sign ------------ Women like to see friends and relationships differnetly unless they are in their more promiscuous mode of friendship with benefits themes... If your too nice... are open up too much--- they'll look for friends... When the year is 3,500 -- they'll still want some sense of a caveman instinct.. and modern behavioral equivalent to chest pounding and dominance...... ironic................. but we're all hard wired.. the practice of clubbing them and dragging to the cave seems to have gone out of style quite a few millennia back though.....

The one that cheats is good at his game.. He can manipulate you.. He can make you feel good about yourself, life, etc.... a player... plays....... so again.... its a feedback loop------ in about an hour on this board... I've found scores of posts complaining about variations on the nice guy theme.... women complaining about what they create.. The way a woman's attraction system works subconscious--- you are working to insure that all guys will ultimately learn how to manipulate you if they aspire to be the alpha that all men want to be... We perpetuate it with out focus on T&A ... and women although everyone likes to pretend are less focused on appearance--- in the US.... are real close to the guys... in other countries--- I've found very very different themes on this front

I'm not sure I agree with all of that -- but I definitely concur- that there is a club syndrome with an aspect of entitlement that makes women think they they can--- upshop--- It reminds me of the story of the women complaining they can't find a good man-- and are brought to a department store with men on each floor to pick.. They can go up each floor but once on the higher floor cannot return to the lower one's... 1st floor--- nice guys............... they are get enamored -- like what they see but are intrigued about the 2nd floor.. 2nd floor ----- nice guys who like kids and are really cute---- they are even more enamoured... but whats on the 3rd floor.............. 3rd floor ---- hot male models who like kids and earn over 250k ... they are even more enamoured--- but what is one the 4th floor.. the 4th floor is empty---- they get there and there is an exit..

Get some models to hang out with you for a night--------- dress up real nice--------- make an entrance------------ send them to the bathroom and the cat-like instinct of the other women will compel the questions.. 1.. what is the deal with him-- 2. if those girls are with him.. then somethng must be good there.... 3. he has a women's smell on him so he's safe.. Plus the intrigue.. not dissimilar to why you f*** through friendship circles--- as your 'safety' parameters are established through their clique...... (( some women will hate this post-- but I don't care--- its the truth))) -- and can be demonstrated coherently time and time again..........

Find me a women who will say --- I don't like nice guys--- Find me a nice guy who finished first........ Build me a pie chart of a women's sexual encounters (not weighted by # of events per individual) and show me what portion is the nice guy subset.......... All these soft lines about nice guys are frustrating because they are either outright lies or self-diluding attempts to rationalize hormonal-centric behavior which is relationships instead of logic-centric -- the latter having nothing to do with love....... If I'm disintereted-- she's more interested-------------- If your overly sweet -- attraction wanes The chase is more interesting than the endgame.. its a bizarre world------- arranged marraiges saved everyone a lot of time and money------------

With female friends of friends... no issue whatsoever... and when I do stand up or get on a comedy role-- (go superalpha) they flock... but when walking through a place confidently........ whether t-shirt to Reda & Sherry super 180s---- I get some angry looks--- - And night clubs women seem to be the worst creatures on the face of the earth.......as though another sub-species.. with entirely different behavioral characteristics than mainstream.............. I wonder if I'm kicking off too much androstenone or something.....

IT does not pay to be a nice guy. Consciously -- they are lecturing you on the belief that you should be a nice guy and they tell their family and friends that is what they want. This has nothing to do with engendering real attraction........ Their subconscious indicators are closer to: 1. respect. 2. appearance 3. excitement elicited by these variables 4. confidence.......... Nice or not-------- good looking or bad--------- aim your head down at the floor with bad posture looking like a beaten man and you could be in super-180's Reda, the nicest guy in the world-- the interest will only be there by a few fetish types that like that........... You can't rely on women's conscious thoughts on what attract them -- everyone has the same answers--- and if look at the lsat 10 guys they slept with -- nice guy won't be the big variable.............

Go get a perscription for Accutane for starters............ I made my first million before I had my first relationship that lasted longer than 3 days............ Luckily--- if acne is your primary issue--- you'll have your waning testosterone ahead of you to keep those sebacious glands under control...

All the good guys aren't taken.... your attracted to what is not good for you....... most of us are.. male or female.............. What you say you want and seek to your friends vs. family vs. reality of your subconscious are all different animals....

This may sound odd, but notwithstanding a relatively good muscle build albeit with a few extra pounds, blond hair, blue eyes, and being funny I am constantly given looks of anger and hatred by women. This is not to say that I don't get smiles, but oftentimes I am given looks of extreme scorn that puzzle me but female friends (perhaps in looking out for my feelings) tell me I'm good looking. I wonder if this is a VNO-Pheromone- or facial symmetry thing. That perhaps some underlying chemical issue exists as to why an outwardly polling smile can recruit a facial response that I can only describe as 'anger' sometimes. I'm a big teddy bear--- usually erroring more on the side of being labeled -FNG- than player. The effect is far more pronounced at night clubs than in mainstream society. In an average day, I'll get many smiles from normal women, but the 'nightclub' women will trigger -0- smiles and in a given night 12 or more 'angry' or 'wry' faces. This can refer to women of all appearances, builds, etc.... not just the modelesque types. My question is ---------- do you [women] have times when you really HATE a guy for no apparent reason?... just on appearance.... not just disinterest.. but malinterest.