Is anyone okay with prostitution?

[itsallgrand]

Always bad? Not necessarily.

 

In some cases, it may be downright healing, as you say. I can see that, honestly.

 

But that is mostly in juicy, romantic French movies. And tales that the drunken guys tell after coming home from war or after visiting the "old country".

 

In reality, the seedy underbelly of attempting to trade in bodies and sometimes hearts and souls for money...it's ugly, and often downright criminal (not even considering whether prostitution is legal or not in a place! )

 

Think of the crap holes of the world in human rights, and prostitution and it's accompanying vulgaries and abuses are right up there on the list.

 

Bechhh, even thinking about it makes me think of so many girls and woman who never had an honest choice in the matter, to condone it in a way in the name of enlightment or liberal values makes me puke.

 

I don't think prostitution is an enlightened activity by any means, is my answer.

[ProtestTheHero]

lol you men are silly. 'i dont look down on prostitutes but i wouldnt date one or buy one because i have standards!'

BUHAHAAHAA!

'Anyone who has been promiscuous has no room to talk about women who sleep with men for a living, although its nowhere near the same thing'

please.. you couldnt sell that garb to a pawn shop!

 

You aren't understanding the argument I think.

 

I won't date a chick with FWB/prostitute past. At the same time, I don't see how anyone with a history of ONS's can claim a difference. That is incredibly amusing to me, but I guess it's a coping mechanism.

[BellaDonna]

Interesting article: link removed

 

"In order to consider prostitution a job, and in order to keep the business of sexual exploitation running smoothly, we can not know that racism and class prejudice, like sexism, are intrinsic to prostitution."

[rosephase]

You've never heard of this thing that effects millions of women a year called sex slavery?

 

Okay yes, but that is something different. I am talking about women in the US who have a choice in what they are doing. I agree that slavery of any kind is awful.

[EQD]

How the hell do you know?

 

how do you know?

hm? you dont know the bottom and neither do i. But its not a stretch of the imagination to see how they work is it?

[EQD]

You aren't understanding the argument I think.

 

no i just summed it up beautifully and you can't handle the truth of it.

[Iceman26]

If legalized prostitution helps reduce the number of rape victims and they are safe about their "business", I am all for it.

[enchiladaman]

K, but people who aren't prostitutes have the options of spreading that STI to a larger group of people who wouldn't go to prostitutes.

 

If the same people are going to prostitutes all the time, they won't be spreading as much STI's as the promiscuous girls/guys that have access to clean people in HS/college/workplace/etc.

 

Until a prostitute asks me to fight for her in an idealistic sense, I'm not going to.

 

Obviously anyone having sex (and in not having sex in some cases) can spread an STI to another person. From someone that has slept with just one other person to someone that has slept with a thousand...everyone is capable. Statistically, with each person you sleep with you have multiplied the likelihood of catching something. Prostitutes and promiscuous people alike are no different. I'm not debating this.

 

I'm stating that prostitution is a high risk category for contracting and spreading STI/STDs and can effect innocent people. It is only one of several attributing reasons why I take issue with it.

[CallingAllAngels]

Rape has nothing to do with sex...it's all about control...has NOTHING to do with love or lust.

[midnightrambler]

If legalized prostitution helps reduce the number of rape victims and they are safe about their "business", I am all for it.

 

here here...

[BellaDonna]

Okay yes, but that is something different. I am talking about women in the US who have a choice in what they are doing. I agree that slavery of any kind is awful.

 

What about their past and current economy might lead them to this choice?

 

If legalized prostitution helps reduce the number of rape victims and they are safe about their "business", I am all for it.

 

Some consider prostitution a form of "rape".

 

No one really wants to have sex with five, ten, or twenty strangers a day, every day. Besides the sheer numbers involved, some of those strangers are going to use a person in ways that are bizarre, painful or disgusting, and occasionally fatal.

 

When people who have worked in prostitution call it repeated rape, they are not exaggerating or being "hysterical." They are being legally precise. Rape is sexual intercourse, against the will of the victim, carried out by threat or force.

 

In prostitution, the john performs the sex act with the unwilling victim, but subcontracts the intimidation and violence to another man, the pimp.

 

The john would like to believe he is paying for sex, but the person he has sex with gets little or none of the money. The money goes to the pimp to pay for the force needed to keep prostituted women and children working. It goes to the drug dealer who provides whatever it takes to keep the workers from becoming psychotic or committing suicide. It goes to pay the businessmen who provide the real estate, support services, and legal protection for the trade.

 

-from link removed

 

Even if you legalize it, there is still someone in the role of a "pimp" making money- the difference with it being legal is that pimps/agencies might get to exist in a cozy corporate office.

[shadesofmediocrity]

I am talking about women in the US who have a choice in what they are doing.

 

That kind of thing I think can be justified.

Human trafficking, abuse and rape, etc etc - repulsive and vile.

[ProtestTheHero]

Obviously anyone having sex (and in not having sex in some cases) can spread an STI to another person. From someone that has slept with just one other person to someone that has slept with a thousand...everyone is capable. Statistically, with each person you sleep with you have multiplied the likelihood of catching something. Prostitutes and promiscuous people alike are no different. I'm not debating this.

 

I'm stating that prostitution is a high risk category for contracting and spreading STI/STDs and can effect innocent people. It is only one of several attributing reasons why I take issue with it.

 

People who go to prostitutes will rarely spread an STI to people who don't. If you can have sex with someone clean for free, why would you go to a prostitute? But yeah, I get your point, and I don't really take issue with that side of it.

 

And EQ, I won't argue anymore if that last comment was serious, lol.

[rosephase]

how do you know?

hm? you dont know the bottom and neither do i. But its not a stretch of the imagination to see how they work is it?

 

I at least have a clue you have to admit you know nothing about it. You have never spoken to a sex worker. So no you really can't guess. You are going off a bunch of images that have been presented to you from movies and TV shows and that is it. You are welcome to your opinion about what you would, and wouldn't do, and how you feel. But you need to stop saying how these women behave and feel about themselves, because you do not know.

[CallingAllAngels]

People who go to prostitutes will rarely spread an STI that people who don't. If you can have sex with someone clean for free, why would you go to a prostitute?

 

So, are you for it or against it????

[enchiladaman]

Okay yes, but that is something different. I am talking about women in the US who have a choice in what they are doing. I agree that slavery of any kind is awful.

 

Well I already said that I think two consenting adults know the risks and should be free to do whatever they want with their bodies. So from that standpoint I don't have any issue at all with it. (My personal belief is that anyone that engages sex with that many partners with a high likelihood of contracting something nasty is not too concerned with their health and thereforeeee think is incredibly ignorant).

 

But you asked if I was okay with prostitution. And my answer is no, because it isn't as simple as two consenting adults. It is an industry and trade that attracts a lot of negative things that effect innocent parties and minors. I have so much issue with that that I disagree with the whole notion of prostitution alltogether. The bad outweighs any good.

[ProtestTheHero]

So, are you for it or against it????

 

For it. I just meant that it's kinda pointless to go to a prostitute if you can sleep with someone for free, and that would impact the statistical side of it.

 

I can't sleep with someone for free.

[CallingAllAngels]

But you asked if I was okay with prostitution. And my answer is no, because it isn't as simple as two consenting adults. It is an industry and trade that attracts a lot of negative things that effect innocent parties and minors. I have so much issue with that that I disagree with the whole notion of prostitution alltogether. The bad outweighs any good.

 

Amen to that.

[shadesofmediocrity]

I at least have a clue you have to admit you know nothing about it. You have never spoken to a sex worker. So no you really can't guess. You are going off a bunch of images that have been presented to you from movies and TV shows and that is it. You are welcome to your opinion about what you would, and wouldn't do, and how you feel. But you need to stop saying how these women behave and feel about themselves, because you do not know.

 

I have no real first- or second-hand knowledge myself. I know only my opinions based on my preferences and the information I have collected through my limited life experience, including one singular documentary

I imagine my perceptions of things would change if I actually had hands-on experience or talked to somebody who has experienced the life of a sex worker. I quite wonder actually...not enough to go put on some fishnets and stand on the corner, obviously. But I am curious as to how wrongly I am actually judging things. hm.

[EQD]

People who have had luckier lives, as well as those who profit from the sex industry in some way, frequently refer to prostitution and pornography as "victim-less crimes". They point to a tiny fraction of sex workers who actually might be involved by choice. They selectively read history to find some tiny minority, somewhere, at some time, who gained something in the sex business.

 

The very selectiveness of their attention indicates that, on some level, they know that for almost everyone, involvement in the sex industry is a terrible misfortune.

 

As many an old cop will say, "Anyone who thinks prostitution is a victimless crime, hasn't seen it up close."

[midnightrambler]

People who have had luckier lives, as well as those who profit from the sex industry in some way, frequently refer to prostitution and pornography as "victim-less crimes". They point to a tiny fraction of sex workers who actually might be involved by choice. They selectively read history to find some tiny minority, somewhere, at some time, who gained something in the sex business.

 

The very selectiveness of their attention indicates that, on some level, they know that for almost everyone, involvement in the sex industry is a terrible misfortune.

 

As many an old cop will say, "Anyone who thinks prostitution is a victimless crime, hasn't seen it up close."

 

 

where it is legal it ain't no crime......

[CallingAllAngels]

I have no real first- or second-hand knowledge myself. I know only my opinions based on my preferences and the information I have collected through my limited life experience, including one singular documentary

I imagine my perceptions of things would change if I actually had hands-on experience or talked to somebody who has experienced the life of a sex worker. I quite wonder actually...not enough to go put on some fishnets and stand on the corner, obviously. But I am curious as to how wrongly I am actually judging things. hm.

 

WOW...that is a powerful statement to make.

 

If I wasn't so scared of what would happen to you, I would dare you to do so.

 

BUT PLEASE....DO NOT!!!!!!!!!!

[EQD]

What about their past and current economy might lead them to this choice?

 

 

 

Some consider prostitution a form of "rape".

 

 

 

-from link removed

 

Even if you legalize it, there is still someone in the role of a "pimp" making money- the difference with it being legal is that pimps/agencies might get to exist in a cozy corporate office.

 

AMEN! Thanks for the link

[EQD]

where it is legal it ain't no crime......

 

yeah.. hey thats good logic! Now if only they would make robbery and murder legal we would live in a crime free world right!? right.

[midnightrambler]

The thing is prostitution exists in many forms even if there was NO "official" types of prostitutes which stand on corners, or those call girls.

Lots of times women have sex in exchange for many other stuff. It's something that won't ever NOT exist.

I think it's existed B.C.

 

correct....... a woman told me the only reason she slept with her husband because it was his birthday....