Is anyone okay with prostitution?

[JadedStar]

I realized that a while ago. but it is the nature of these things.

It's nice to throw one's opinions around. Kills time, and heck, maybe somebody learned something.

 

Yep.

 

I've just seen so many threads on this topic here I dont think i can really add much more than has already been added.

 

I am just throwing in my "nay" to the concept. LOL

[midnightrambler]

I don't think anyone who is for this will convince those who are not to be so, or vice versa.

 

i don't think that is the point----the exchange of ideas benefits us all

[JadedStar]

i don't think that is the point----the exchange of ideas benefits us all

 

I am only referring to myself personally because the topic has been beaten to death and I am saying I don't know what else I can add except my "nay" to the concept.

 

I am not saying anyone else shouldn't discuss it. Just making a statement that if the goal is to sway anyone, i dont think its working.

[shadesofmediocrity]

The horse was dead to start with. But now it's REAL dead.

[metrogirl]

I had a friend who worked with the homeless and streetworkers. From the stories I heard from her and things I've read, I have compassion for prostitutes because most of them have backgrounds of severe abuse. Many ran away from home as young girls and ended up on the streets. They were forced to sell their bodies as a way to survive. The challenge, as I see it, is to address the issues which lead to prostitution in the first place, rather than attacking the prostitutes. Only then will prostitution disappear.

 

Also, food for thought - some married women only have sex because they feel obligated to. In essense they are being "paid" to have sex because they are having sex in exchange for the material comforts the husband provides.

 

If that is truly the case then why is it that a lot of us have come from abusive backgrounds and we are not hooking. My first memory of being molested, I was 3 maybe 4. I was molested by 3 different men starting at the age of 3 until I was 10. I had my first baby when I was 15. I NEVER had the desire to turn to the streets. That is a cop out!! That is like saying that any one of us here that have been abused as a child is destined to street life. It's a choice, not a pre-dertermined fact.

 

I got my first job when I was 15, right after I had my baby. I had 2 or 3 other little jobs until I got this one at 19. I have been working here for 18 years!!!!

 

It's total BS when people say that selling your body is the only option. There are options, sadly the lure of easy money takes away from those options. Working a menial job just won't cut it for them.

[metrogirl]

I had a friend who worked with the homeless and streetworkers. From the stories I heard from her and things I've read, I have compassion for prostitutes because most of them have backgrounds of severe abuse. Many ran away from home as young girls and ended up on the streets. They were forced to sell their bodies as a way to survive. The challenge, as I see it, is to address the issues which lead to prostitution in the first place, rather than attacking the prostitutes. Only then will prostitution disappear.

 

Also, food for thought - some married women only have sex because they feel obligated to. In essense they are being "paid" to have sex because they are having sex in exchange for the material comforts the husband provides.

 

If that is truly the case then why is it that a lot of us have come from abusive backgrounds and we are not hooking. My first memory of being molested, I was 3 maybe 4. I was molested by 3 different men starting at the age of 3 until I was 10. I had my first baby when I was 15. I NEVER had the desire to turn to the streets. That is a cop out!! That is like saying that any one of us here that have been abused as a child is destined to street life. It's a choice, not a pre-dertermined fact.

 

I got my first job when I was 15, right after I had my baby. I had 2 or 3 other little jobs until I got this one at 19. I have been working here for 18 years!!!!

 

It's total BS when people say that selling your body is the only option. There are options, sadly the lure of easy money takes away from those options. Working a menial job just won't cut it for them.

[stella74]

With all due respect, because I think you set a wonderful example, I think that logic doesn't make sense. Just because most children who've been molested don't end up on the streets doesn't mean that the ones who DO have other options. I'm just saying that we need to have more compassion for those women rather than attacking them. I don't want there to be prostitution, but I don't think attacking the women is the way to end it.

[JadedStar]

I think it is a safe bet to assume that the overwhelming majority of women who would hook themselves out have a drug habit to support. Knowing that and knowing that they are probably incoherent half the time and not really thinking about personal safety I think it makes the profession a real menace to society even if you remove the part about it turning a lot of lives upside down.

 

Most women do not sell themselves out unless they have a drug habit. Julia roberts' character in Pretty Woman was surely an anomolie.

 

I wuold think most would agree that most any woman who would sink to selling her body for sex has some seriously grave issues to begin with so I do not think making it legal is going to make this fact very different, thus rendering it a huge safety and health hazzard all the way around.

 

Your average well adjusted female normally would never consider this as a profession.

[midnightrambler]

i agree with the previous poster, as much as it pains me

[JadedStar]

i agree with the previous poster, as much as it pains me

 

Why does it pain you?

[midnightrambler]

Why does it pain you?

 

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Another thing, the quality of sex you are going to get from a prostitute/escort is likely going to be very bad, and not likely going to be 'amazing sex' or 'hot sex', and it's also a risky crap-shoot where you also have to feel chemistry and feel a good mutual connection with an escort or you would likely feel like you got ripped off. So you might actually have to see a few different escorts until you find the one that's right for you, and spend like $ 200 for each escort in the process.

 

I hear other guys they go and try prostitute/escort out and they feel so nervous that they cant get hard, or they really don't feel a good connection with the escort/prostitute and the whole drive nose-dives when you see that. If you put so much money to risk on an experience, you also have to perform, and if that thing doesn't go up, it's money that's now wasted.

 

As far as the people on here crying down escorts, I've heard of other guys that after going with a prostitute, they hook up with a normal girl afterwards, or they got with a girlfriend, but they don't tell them they went with a prostitute before. So, there is also an anonymous element to it that probably makes it appealing.

 

Any person you date can deny or not mention going with a prostitute. My dad married my mom, he said to my mom he was a virgin. I found out two years ago he went with 30 girls and some of them were prostitutes. If my dad was honest with mom, then he wouldn't have a chance of marrying her.

[tmp0620]

Legalizing bad things makes them safer... that goes for pot, prostitution most anything like that I'd say.

[RayKay]

I think that is wonderful you made such a life for yourself despite that past, but I don't think it is fair to say that it means that others thereforeeee has "just as much choice". Yes, we all do have choices...but not everyone feels or has the opportunity for the same choices.

 

Many of these women (I work with women whom are abused in my pro bono work) indeed do feel they have little other option and they are used to being...well used...and disassociate themselves from their own bodies and have little self esteem or confidence to do something else. Many of them are also in true poverty, and there are indeed women whom ARE forced into it (literally via the sex slavery trade) or by men whom they are lured into trusting and then turned out into prostituting themselves. The cycle of addiction (many do become addicted to drugs initially OR as a way to deal with what they are doing), poverty, abuse, the limits on their education and support system (many for example are runaways) is repetitive....

 

It is hard to even get a minimum wage job when you don't have a home address, a phone number, or a social insurance number...and it certainly is not because hooking brings in more money...many of these women are certainly not the "call girls" that bring in $100's per "job"; most are settling for $5-10 tricks.

 

No one here has said it is a pre-determined fact, but I think that to deny that for many women the choices seem far fewer than it may feel to you, or to myself for example, is being simplistic.

[IphigeniaSaysHi]

It's not really a great thing, the disgust surrounding sexuality. We wouldn't BE here without it. Most of us were probably not conceived under the supposedly ideal conditions, wedlock, emotional security blah blah. It's a VITAL part of life, a vital part of our natures as individuals.

Um, true... but these people aren't having sex to make babies so that argument is completely irrelevant...

[Hope75]

It's using your hands, your mind, your actions to relieve and/or prevent immediate pain; emotionally (as a psychiatrist for example), or physically, or a combination. A gynecologist is involved with touching, examining the sexual organs, hopefully without emotional involvement. They see and manipulate the genitals of many people daily, for the purpose of relieving/preventing pain or disease physically. In some situations a prostitute could be seen as something similar I think.

 

The way a gynecologist touches genitalia (to examine for abnormalities/pain/problems) and the way a prostitute touches genitalia (to stimulate/get someone off) are two completely different things.

 

A doctor goes through years of medical school and residency and practicums and professional training- he learns to use his eyes, ears, sense of touch to diagnose medical problems and direct them towards healing and wellness if possible.

 

A hooker uses her hands to get someone off. She uses her mouth to get someone off. She uses her body to get someone off. She uses her mind to manipulate her body into getting someone off.

 

Not even close to the same thing.

[Tyro82]

I know some sex workers, and I have friends as well as a partner that have/had seen call girls on a fairly regular basses. It doesn’t bother me. I know it does bother a lot of people. My question is if you are unattached, and there for not hurting anyone by doing it, do you think seeing a prostitute is _always_ bad?

 

When you are unattached, when seeing a prostitute hurts no one, there really isn't a reason why seeing a prostitute would be bad. As long it's a civilized transaction with rules and boundaries, I see no fault. Say... how much for how long... for what variety... err... and protection is a must and what not.

[kuiks8]

When you are unattached, when seeing a prostitute hurts no one, there really isn't a reason why seeing a prostitute would be bad. As long it's a civilized transaction with rules and boundaries, I see no fault. Say... how much for how long... for what variety... err... and protection is a must and what not.

 

I know we have all been over this but i just want to reitterate its not about the person seeking the service that makes prostitution wrong...its the long term effect it will have on the people participating in it. There is no way anyone here can say that having sex for money is someones ideal career...there's no way you can say being asked to do the things many of those girls are asked to do does not leave emotional scars...so while you may think it is fine and harmless for a guy to get off the real issue is the impact it has on the person being paid to do so.

[Tyro82]

It's unfortunate that these taboos are ground into our brains from the day we're born, but you can as an individual challenge your own pre-conceived notions. To each their own I say.

 

You've got a good head over your shoulders. Sometimes... I wonder if what I thought really is what I thought. I question whether I'm only conforming to certain ideas because they make sense and everybody else seem to think so.

[Tyro82]

i think about all the harships and dangers prosititutes face.. not just the STD's but the beatings, rapes, and murders because they have made themselves into walking toliets for lowlifes... thats what i dont like the most about prostitution.

 

Isn't it a bit harsh to say prostitutes are "walking toilets"? You may not like them. You may not have any respect for them. But the least that you... the least that we can do is not to disrespect them any more than they are already being disrespected. They are human, too. They are the victims when they're beaten, raped and murdered? They may have exposed themselves to these risks, but it's the perpetrators that put the harms on them. They are not fully at fault. To so leisurely and simply put it, to say they're walking toilets, is disregarding what possible circumstances they may be facing or might've gone through to result in prostitution.

[Tyro82]

these things dont happen because its illegal, these things happen because women who sleep with 10 men a night to make a living and buy dope and crack are looked down upon as subhuman. No one who sleeps with a prostitute can say they respect them in any way shape or form. They put themselves out there to be screwed, came in, pissed on and knocked back out of the car. you can't beautify something this ugly i'm sorry.

But if i were to choose a lesser evil i'd say 'yeah lets just all have hooker houses that regulate it'

But you have to accept that you will still have streetwalkers anyway. Hell its illegal NOW and its rampant! Laws are only for those who abide by them.

 

I find it presumptuous to assume prostitutes to be drug addicts simply because they sleep with men for a living. This is unfair to the poverty stricken driven to prostitution. Furthermore... subhuman? Yes, these women put themselves out there to be screwed. But I doubt they willingly put themselves out there to be ejaculated into and chance pregnancy. I doubt they willingly put themselves out there to be urinated on. I can't imagine these things happening without it being forced. And to be knocked out of a car, being treated like garbage... some of them are just trying to get by. People doing these things to them are despicable and truly are subhuman.

If prostitutes are subhuman, the people using force on them must be dirtbags among subhuman.

[GypsyMuse]

Instead of judging prostitutes so harshly, maybe people should make an effort to get rid of the problems that perpetuate it in the first place, like poverty, lack of education, lack of job opportunities and drug addiction.

 

There will always people who want sex and think they can't get it any other way than to buy it, and there will always be people willing to give it for money, but the negative aspects that go with it could be reduced if we looked at the causes and cared enough to help.

[shadesofmediocrity]

Um, true... but these people aren't having sex to make babies so that argument is completely irrelevant...

 

Most people don't have sex primarily to make babies.

 

The way a gynecologist touches genitalia (to examine for abnormalities/pain/problems) and the way a prostitute touches genitalia (to stimulate/get someone off) are two completely different things.

 

A doctor goes through years of medical school and residency and practicums and professional training- he learns to use his eyes, ears, sense of touch to diagnose medical problems and direct them towards healing and wellness if possible.

 

A hooker uses her hands to get someone off. She uses her mouth to get someone off. She uses her body to get someone off. She uses her mind to manipulate her body into getting someone off.

 

Not even close to the same thing.

 

Depends on how you look at it I guess. If you separate the emotions from it, which in reality can't really be done I suppose...it's a person using their body and/or mind to ensure the pleasure of another. Perhaps a doctor was a bad analogy. But a masseuse...whether the pleasure achieved is sexual or not - and how can you really draw the boundary there anyways? - same thing.

[healthseeker]

Sex and love is incredible healing, ask tons of men and women on this board.

 

Oh, so you can PAY for LOVE now? What a crock!

 

Hookers are disgusting...it is insulting to all women and to try to justify it as some form of therapy is downright incompetent.

[Hope75]

Most people don't have sex primarily to make babies.

 

 

 

Depends on how you look at it I guess. If you separate the emotions from it, which in reality can't really be done I suppose...it's a person using their body and/or mind to ensure the pleasure of another. Perhaps a doctor was a bad analogy. But a masseuse...whether the pleasure achieved is sexual or not - and how can you really draw the boundary there anyways? - same thing.

 

As a medical professional I can tell you that we do separate it, very easily. I don't look at my patients penises in the same way I look at my fiance's. Work is work, and pleasure is pleasure- two very separate things. At work I am assessing, diagnosing and treating. At home, it's a different story.

 

I would be more inclined to believe that a massage therapist is more like a prostitute- especially in light that some offer 'special services'.