TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, Coily said: Sigh. Guess Apologetics aren't your strong suit. Oh well. Can you understand why i hate my life? Link to comment
Coily Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, TheRideNeverEnds said: Can you understand why i hate my life? You do understand what "Apologetics" are correct? WikiPedia: Apologetics (from Greek ἀπολογία, lit. 'speaking in defense') is the religious discipline of defending religious doctrines through systematic argumentation and discourse. Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Coily said: You do understand what "Apologetics" are correct? WikiPedia: Apologetics (from Greek ἀπολογία, lit. 'speaking in defense') is the religious discipline of defending religious doctrines through systematic argumentation and discourse. Im not here to do apologetics. Only explain my reasoning. Link to comment
Coily Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just now, TheRideNeverEnds said: Im not here to do apologetics. Only explain my reasoning. You brought in religion, where it shouldn't be on this forum. Insult people for not understanding your faith based argumentativeness. Then when someone brings up what is commonly understood theological terminology, you play coy. I wanted to help you. Wanted to encourage you to find a better path for yourself. Try to be on your side. But oops. Also very amusingly, you are engaged in Self Apologetics right now. 🫠 1 Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Coily said: You brought in religion, where it shouldn't be on this forum. Insult people for not understanding your faith based argumentativeness. Then when someone brings up what is commonly understood theological terminology, you play coy. I wanted to help you. Wanted to encourage you to find a better path for yourself. Try to be on your side. But oops. Also very amusingly, you are engaged in Self Apologetics right now. 🫠 Yeah yeah you people keep saying its all my fault. I get used to that kind of stuff. But i know its not all my fault. Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 Next you people will tell me its my fault for being chronically ill, having chronic fatigue, pain, autism. Right? Link to comment
Wiseman2 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: Next you people will..... Unfortunately you seem to be arguing with yourself. 1 Link to comment
Coily Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: Yeah yeah you people keep saying its all my fault. I get used to that kind of stuff. But i know its not all my fault. "You people" as in fellow Christian? You are unwilling to take what is intended as very kind hearted thoughts and opinions. Then you lash out in wrathful ways. You engage in Acedia when others are trying to help you gain perspective and hope. You have been dealt a cruel hand no doubt, but you have not sought Grace. Your faith is not a weapon to use against others who want give you charity and kindness. I would hope that you will see this as not an insult, but as genuine aid. But I figure you will read this as you will. 1 1 Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, Coily said: "You people" as in fellow Christian? You are unwilling to take what is intended as very kind hearted thoughts and opinions. Then you lash out in wrathful ways. You engage in Acedia when others are trying to help you gain perspective and hope. You have been dealt a cruel hand no doubt, but you have not sought Grace. Your faith is not a weapon to use against others who want give you charity and kindness. I would hope that you will see this as not an insult, but as genuine aid. But I figure you will read this as you will. Well Im not a very good Christian, yes. And in this life atleast there doesn't seem much hope for me Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 So how do i learn to accept this finally? Link to comment
Batya33 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: So how do i learn to accept this finally? You learn by doing. By being other centered. Including giving to others and being a good listener. Get out of your own head. Question if you’re getting in your own way. Don’t accept “this is just who I am”. I have to do this and have had to do this to grow and to be a better wife and mother. Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Batya33 said: You learn by doing. By being other centered. Including giving to others and being a good listener. Get out of your own head. Question if you’re getting in your own way. Don’t accept “this is just who I am”. I have to do this and have had to do this to grow and to be a better wife and mother. I see, you think its my fault, correct? Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 You people really cant see how being disabled is seen as undesirable by women? Link to comment
Tinydance Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: Yes Jesus is Love, but that doesnt mean youre permited to do everything, you realize that? Some things are sins, some things are virtues. Well first of all religion is very largely subjective. There are many religions in the world. And often they believe different things. There are also people who are atheist. So they don't even believe in God or heaven or hell. Keep in mind too that majority of religious texts were written many thousands of years ago. They're extremely outdated. Link to comment
Tinydance Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: No? I never said typing here is a sin, why do you think i assumed? But i think acting on homosexuality is most definitely a sin. If you truly loved your son you would tell him. I have a few ideas why you hate your life and don't have a relationship. Number one is you're deeply homophobic. Also the Bible says: "God made us in His image." So if He hates gay people then why did He actually make them in His image? Explain this? 1 Link to comment
Tinydance Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: You people really cant see how being disabled is seen as undesirable by women? Homophobia is also seen as undesirable by many. Especially in progressive western countries. 1 Link to comment
Tinydance Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: Btw my mother also said she prayed for me, and told me acting on homosexuality is a sin. So i try to avoid that. But also generally premarital sex, masturbation is a sin too, and yes porn of course. And yes im technically "bisexual". Well no offence but I'm really getting the impression that the main problem here in regards to dating at least isn't your disabilities. If for example you want to be with men but you're "not allowed" then you would literally have the same problem even if you were a fully healthy and able bodied person. If the only path for your religion is to marry a woman and you wouldn't follow that path - you would be alone. I definitely believe you that your disability causes you suffering but to me your religion seems like the biggest obstacle. Link to comment
Tinydance Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: Once again im proven right, that most unbelievers dont care about ethics or morals. If you're talking about that the "morals" is it's wrong to be gay then correct, I don't care about that. Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 44 minutes ago, Tinydance said: I have a few ideas why you hate your life and don't have a relationship. Number one is you're deeply homophobic. Also the Bible says: "God made us in His image." So if He hates gay people then why did He actually make them in His image? Explain this? well im bisexual not homosexual, so i could technically choose. Link to comment
Tinydance Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: well im bisexual not homosexual, so i could technically choose. Well just accept yourself as you are. I think God accepts you as long as you're not hurting other people. Just being gay or bisexual does no harm to anybody so why is it a problem? Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Tinydance said: Well just accept yourself as you are. I think God accepts you as long as you're not hurting other people. Just being gay or bisexual does no harm to anybody so why is it a problem? according to catholic teaching acting on homosexuality, and premarital sex generally is a grave sin. I didnt make the rules, ok? Link to comment
Wiseman2 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: according to .... I didnt make the rules, ok? Believe whatever you want to believe, no one is stopping you. There's plenty of resources for help with your situation. Link to comment
Tinydance Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said: according to catholic teaching acting on homosexuality, and premarital sex generally is a grave sin. I didnt make the rules, ok? You also don't have to follow all of them. Link to comment
TheRideNeverEnds Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tinydance said: You also don't have to follow all of them. I dont but if i want to avoid eternal damnation i should. Link to comment
Capricorn3 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Thread has run its course. 1 1 Link to comment
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