Forever Alone?

[TheRideNeverEnds]

1 minute ago, Coily said:

Since you haven't discussed it with a monastery, how do you know?  And NO, not anyone can become a monk, you have to have humility and piety. Then every order is different, with different requirements.

 

Nor can nearly bedridden men become monks. 

[Wiseman2]

30 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

, i guess if its true ignorance one could maybe be saved and judged by his deeds, but usally, faith in Jesus is at minimum necessary for salvation.

Have you taken a look at these? Particularly item 14?

https://www.enotalone.com/guidelines/

[TheRideNeverEnds]

Life is cruel i guess. 

[boltnrun]

My son is gay and married to a man. He is not going to hell.

I'm sorry your religion makes you feel bad about yourself instead of lifting you up and allowing you to realize Jesus loves all of us. 

You are a person of value. God wouldn't have put you here just to torture you, would he? 

As for online groups, you are participating in one here. You will not be punished for it. 

[TheRideNeverEnds]

1 minute ago, boltnrun said:

My son is gay and married to a man. He is not going to hell.

I'm sorry your religion makes you feel bad about yourself instead of lifting you up and allowing you to realize Jesus loves all of us. 

You are a person of value. God wouldn't have put you here just to torture you, would he? 

As for online groups, you are participating in one here. You will not be punished for it. 

 

Yes Jesus is Love, but that doesnt mean youre permited to do everything, you realize that? Some things are sins, some things are virtues. 

[boltnrun]

2 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

 

Yes Jesus is Love, but that doesnt mean youre permited to do everything, you realize that? Some things are sins, some things are virtues. 

You side-stepped every point I made. I did not suggest you "do everything". I did say that participating in an online forum and typing to someone online is not a punishable offense. You're doing it now and I assure you, a punishment is not imminent. 

[TheRideNeverEnds]

1 minute ago, boltnrun said:

You side-stepped every point I made. I did not suggest you "do everything". I did say that participating in an online forum and typing to someone online is not a punishable offense. You're doing it now and I assure you, a punishment is not imminent. 

 

No? I never said typing here is a sin, why do you think i assumed? But i think acting on homosexuality is most definitely a sin.  If you truly loved your son you would tell him.

 

[Coily]

I think you should write self help books! Cheers

[boltnrun]

1 minute ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

 

No? I never said typing here is a sin, why do you think i assumed? But i think acting on homosexuality is most definitely a sin.  If you truly loved your son you would tell him.

 

What you think about my son is irrelevant and I will absolutely NOT tell my son any such thing.

I'm sorry you're unhappy but since you refuse to do anything to help yourself I guess all you can do is try to find something that interests you and do that.

Good luck.

[TheRideNeverEnds]

Just now, boltnrun said:

What you think about my son is irrelevant and I will absolutely NOT tell my son any such thing.

I'm sorry you're unhappy but since you refuse to do anything to help yourself I guess all you can do is try to find something that interests you and do that.

Good luck.

 

Btw my mother also said she prayed for me, and told me acting on homosexuality is a sin. So i try to avoid that. But also generally premarital sex, masturbation is a sin too, and yes porn of course. 

And yes im technically "bisexual". 

[Wiseman2]

14 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

Yes Jesus is Love, but that doesnt mean ......

Why aren't you asking the staff for a visit from the chaplain, pastor or other spiritual support?  It's available and the appropriate format for your concerns. 

[Kwothe28]

5 hours ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

That's my question, why do some people insist anyone can find love? 

Because if 600 pounds American Gorlock who chugs enough daily food to feed an average African village, and needs a forklift to get out of bed, can find somebody, then others can at least try too. There are lots of people who are disabled in one way or another, physical or even mental. And they managed to find significant other. So its not out of the realm of possibilities even for you. And you would maybe find that yourself if you at least tried to better yourself in any way and tried to date. Yes, your disability is an obstacle when it comes to dating. And lots of people wouldnt agree to date you based on it. But its not your defining property. I am sure you have a lot of positive ones that would maybe attract at least somebody.

Other thing is, not everybody, disability or not, will find somebody or even have a need for it. To have somebody or even to procreate are low on some peoples lists. Its something you can live without. Meaning that, even if you somehow end up alone, you should be fine as long as you can take care of yourself. You are disabled and maybe need assistance but you are under care so you are at least taken care off. That is more then some others can say.

If you are religious, monastery is an idea. But dunno if they would take a special care for you if you need one. I think you will be better under special care as you are now.

[TheRideNeverEnds]

1 minute ago, Wiseman2 said:

Why aren't you asking the staff for a visit from the chaplain, pastor or other spiritual support?  It's available and the appropriate format for your concerns. 

 

Well im not depressed. 

[TheRideNeverEnds]

Just now, Kwothe28 said:

Because if 600 pounds American Gorlock who chugs enough daily food to feed an average African village, and needs a forklift to get out of bed, can find somebody, then others can at least try too. There are lots of people who are disabled in one way or another, physical or even mental. And they managed to find significant other. So its not out of the realm of possibilities even for you. And you would maybe find that yourself if you at least tried to better yourself in any way and tried to date. Yes, your disability is an obstacle when it comes to dating. And lots of people wouldnt agree to date you based on it. But its not your defining property. I am sure you have a lot of positive ones that would maybe attract at least somebody.

Other thing is, not everybody, disability or not, will find somebody or even have a need for it. To have somebody or even to procreate are low on some peoples lists. Its something you can live without. Meaning that, even if you somehow end up alone, you should be fine as long as you can take care of yourself. You are disabled and maybe need assistance but you are under care so you are at least taken care off. That is more then some others can say.

If you are religious, monastery is an idea. But dunno if they would take a special care for you if you need one. I think you will be better under special care as you are now.

 

Youre talking about a woman right? Well yes, for women its very easy to find a partner nowadays, i absolutely agree!

No matter how fat, ugly or whatever.  So you say you dont need a partner? Right, so why do many people want a partner though? You said they dont need it. 

[TheRideNeverEnds]

Once again im proven right, that most unbelievers dont care about ethics or morals. 

[Wiseman2]

1 minute ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

Once again im proven right, that most unbelievers dont care about ethics or morals. 

Please avoid the manosphere and incels sites and the inane circular arguments and debating that goes there for the purposes of confirmation bias. Seeing a pastor or chaplain is for you to discuss your religious fanaticism, not for treatment of depression. 

[TheRideNeverEnds]

1 minute ago, Wiseman2 said:

Please avoid the manosphere and incels sites and the inane circular arguments and debating that goes there for the purposes of confirmation bias. Seeing a pastor or chaplain is for you to discuss your religious fanaticism, not for treatment of depression. 

 

Well some pastors would agree with me ,and some not (especially those in liberal denominations) Whats your point exactly?  All im saying is the catholic catechisms. No sex before marrying, no contraception, no cohabitation (living together before marrying) 

[Wiseman2]

2 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

 some pastors would agree with me ,and some not 

It doesn't matter who agrees with you. It's that you claim your religious beliefs are incongruent with how you identify yourself. 

[TheRideNeverEnds]

Just now, Wiseman2 said:

It doesn't matter who agrees with you. It's that you claim your religious beliefs are incongruent with how you identify yourself. 

 

What do you mean by that exactly? 

[Kwothe28]

8 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

So you say you dont need a partner? Right, so why do many people want a partner though? You said they dont need it. 

You can argue that a need for procreation is a basic human need. But that doesnt require a romantic partner. You can also argue that there is a need for socialization since human being is a social one. That also doesnt require you having a romantic partner. So yes, need for a romantic partner isnt a basic human needs. In animal world it maybe is because its tied to a need for procreation. But again, humans can take care of that without having a romantic partner. So yes, you can live without a partner if you never find one. Many people did just that before you. 

If you have a need for partner you should at least try to date. For example you were, lets see, 5 hours on this Forum. In that time, you could have socialized and maybe met somebody. For example, I needed one google search to find a dating app for disabled people. In 5 hours you could have joined that and maybe get some matches. But you would rather argue here then do something about the issue.

[TheRideNeverEnds]

1 minute ago, Kwothe28 said:

You can argue that a need for procreation is a basic human need. But that doesnt require a romantic partner. You can also argue that there is a need for socialization since human being is a social one. That also doesnt require you having a romantic partner. So yes, need for a romantic partner isnt a basic human needs. In animal world it maybe is because its tied to a need for procreation. But again, humans can take care of that without having a romantic partner. So yes, you can live without a partner if you never find one. Many people did just that before you. 

If you have a need for partner you should at least try to date. For example you were, lets see, 5 hours on this Forum. In that time, you could have socialized and maybe met somebody. For example, I needed one google search to find a dating app for disabled people. In 5 hours you could have joined that and maybe get some matches. But you would rather argue here then do something about the issue.

 

But you and i both know i couldnt be a provider, i couldnt marry someone, i couldnt afford it, i couldnt afford to take care of a woman, i couldnt afford a family.

So whats the point of a partner? 

[TheRideNeverEnds]

But of course im suffering everyday. Wouldnt you too if you had constant severe chronic pain, chronic fatigue? My life is bad, i know there are people who have it even worse.

If i didnt have my faith i wouldnt have survived so long thats for sure. 

[Coily]

21 minutes ago, TheRideNeverEnds said:

Once again im proven right, that most unbelievers dont care about ethics or morals. 

Have you? It seems you have picked a very sinful way of going about proving your point. Tristitia if I remember the Old church correctly. with some Ira for good measure.

[TheRideNeverEnds]

Just now, Coily said:

Have you? It seems you have picked a very sinful way of going about proving your point. Tristitia if I remember the Old church correctly. with some Ira for good measure.

What? 

[Coily]

Just now, TheRideNeverEnds said:

What? 

Sigh. Guess Apologetics  aren't your strong suit. Oh well.