Dagless Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 It's a phrase I've heard a lot, I think Green Day even have a song call "Nice Guys Finish last" and I've always kind of dismiss it as one of those myths that needy guys come up with as a reason why their clinginess scare women away. But I was wondering is there any truth in it? Ladies, would you reject a guy because he was too nice or would just not find him attractive? Does a guy have to have an edge, be a little bit mean or is it just a myth? You tell me. Link to comment
Cognitive_Canine Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I will admit that I tend to go for the rougher guys. I'll mature....hopefully. However, my last bf was quite the golden boy. There's plenty of hope Link to comment
SeaBisquit Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 that's crap. i've been looking for nice guy for six years. haven't found him yet! Link to comment
EQD Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 doormats with low self-esteem finish last. they need to amend the wording to be more accurate. Link to comment
CallingAllAngels Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 It's a phrase I've heard a lot, I think Green Day even have a song call "Nice Guys Finish last" and I've always kind of dismiss it as one of those myths that needy guys come up with as a reason why their clinginess scare women away. But I was wondering is there any truth in it? Ladies, would you reject a guy because he was too nice or would just not find him attractive? Does a guy have to have an edge, be a little bit mean or is it just a myth? You tell me. It's a COMPLETE myth as far as I'm concerned Dags... I'm looking for a nice guy...just can't find one. Don't change...stay just as nice as you are and you will find a nice girl!!! ~Allie Link to comment
NorthDallas40 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 In my dating experience - and from what my female friends have pointblank TOLD me - most girls DO want a gentleman who's respectful, caring, considerate, etc. Nice guys do NOT always finish last. But girls want the guy to have a little bit of edge. Whether it's flirtiness, cockiness, confidence, or whatever. It's the spice that makes the "niceness" actually SEXY. A nice but shy (read: spineless) guy who fawns over the girl, does whatever she says, and lets her call the shots is a) either going to get dumped soon in favor of a more take-charge guy, or b) going to be the doormat in the relationship and taken advantage of at every turn by the girl. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment
Dagless Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 It's a COMPLETE myth as far as I'm concerned Dags... I'm looking for a nice guy...just can't find one. Don't change...stay just as nice as you are and you will find a nice girl!!! ~Allie Don't worry Allie, I'm not looking to change I'm just throwing it out there see what people think. I couldn't be mean anyway I'm much too nice for that Link to comment
charliebrown Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 nice is good, but to a certain degree. i still need a 'man', someone who wouldn't get knocked out from the first punch. Link to comment
Supa_gurl Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 The only reason, in my opinion, they would finish last is: insecurity and/or too introverted. Otherwise: I have always preferred nice guys Link to comment
Nixee Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 doormats with low self-esteem finish last. they need to amend the wording to be more accurate. absolutely 100% correct. Being "nice" isn't the killer thing. Nice guys can make me swoon.... gentlemen, dependable men, real friends.... those are the ones who I fall for. But you also gotta have a backbone. Don't care about yourself and I won't care either. Link to comment
Jeremiah Johnson Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 This is a response I posted in another thread on the same subject: It's not that women dislike nice guys, but rather women have a strong need to be pursued. Her heart comes alive when she knows she is desired and it's up to the man to make his desire for her known. The problem with "nice guys" is they're often "afraid guys". They hide their feelings under a false pretense of appropriateness and never take up their proverbial swords and go to battle for her. Women do not want bad boys or ***holes, but unfortunately those kinds of guys are usually the type that are willing to fight. Their motives may be amiss, they may have selfish intentions, but the fact that they're willing to fight for her and pursue her is what her heart responds to. Hold strong to your morals and ethics of treating a woman with respect. Every beauty out there longs to have a man with a noble heart, but nobility is more than just treating a woman right. Nobility involves the courage to face fears of rejection and failure and to go out there and battle for her heart. Set your face like flint and show her what she means to you. Take no account of the bad boys that chase her. A truly noble man will prevail if he has a courageous and good heart. Link to comment
Sunshine311 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 doormats with low self-esteem finish last. they need to amend the wording to be more accurate. Exactly! This whole, 'Girls like Bad Boys and nice guys finish last' is such a farce. As ED said, many people mistake the words 'nice guy', with 'spineless, needy, and low self-esteem'. All girls want a nice guy. A nice guy who's confident and secure with himself. A guy doesn't have to be clingy and fall down to our every whim to be a nice guy. He can have a back bone and stand up for himself, and even get mad at us if we're being unreasonable, and he can still be a nice guy!! Link to comment
Carmine Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 "Nice" is a horrible word to begin with. It's so bland and general - doesn't relay any meaning besides "you're a positive person." Thus, the term "nice guy" is general as well. Like posters before me said, the phrase should be "Insecure guys without any self-respect or self-esteem finish last." Not "Loving and caring guys finish last." Not "Gentlemen finish last." Not "Shy guys finish last." Not "Gandhi finishes last." Get my point? Link to comment
EQD Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 you think gandhi ever got rejected? Link to comment
NorthDallas40 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Not "Gandhi finishes last." True. Gandhi was a m***********g PIMP Link to comment
CallingAllAngels Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 you think gandhi ever got rejected? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! Link to comment
Jeremiah Johnson Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Well in the Ben Kingsley movie, the opening scene has Gandhi walking with a girl on each arm... he must have been doin alright Link to comment
Dagless Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 What happened to Gandhi anyway? I mean he did one great film and then nothing. Link to comment
Jeremiah Johnson Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 He was shot dead in the street. He lost his passion for movies after that. Link to comment
EQD Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 well there you have it. proof that nice guys actually get all the girls. but gandhi didnt take no crap, he knew he was worth it, and deserved all the ladies.. and thats exactly what he got.. they all lived happily ever after.. the end. Link to comment
SapphireNoir10 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 well there you have it. proof that nice guys actually get all the girls. but gandhi didnt take no crap, he knew he was worth it, and deserved all the ladies.. and thats exactly what he got.. they all lived happily ever after.. the end. Genius. Absoloute genius. Link to comment
Carmine Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I don't know why I mentioned Gandhi...it just came to me. Gandhi was the MAN though! He didn't even need women. He was above a man's earthly desires, no joke. Link to comment
Jeremiah Johnson Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 He didn't even need women. He was above a man's earthly desires, no joke. Gandhi had a wife... and he would certainly have disagreed with you on that statement. He was a spiritual warrior to be sure, but he had humility because he knew he had flaws as well. Link to comment
Carmine Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Gandhi had a wife... and he would certainly have disagreed with you on that statement. He was a spiritual warrior to be sure, but he had humility because he knew he had flaws as well. Yes he had a wife, but if there was one thing he wasn't good at it was being a husband. He put the needs of mankind above the needs of himself and his family. There aren't many individuals who can do that in this world. And my statement was more of a romantic exaggeration, just to be clear. I just have great respect and admiration for the man. Link to comment
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