Bachelor Parties...for the men and women

[ghost69]

i've seen both types of parties. .... guys getting intense with strippers and guys that just got a dance. the guys i've seen getting further with the girls than usual, i didn't know that well and was just invited to the party. guys i knew well, it was the most innocent dancing and that was it. the one party i went to where the strippers did more, was the only time i've seen it go that far. and yeah, it was like in the movies.

[FortunateOne]

i've seen both types of parties. .... guys getting intense with strippers and guys that just got a dance. the guys i've seen getting further with the girls than usual, i didn't know that well and was just invited to the party. guys i knew well, it was the most innocent dancing and that was it. the one party i went to where the strippers did more, was the only time i've seen it go that far. and yeah, it was like in the movies.

 

I agree. In my youth I went to a few bachelor parties. Most were pretty tame but a few were really wild. I remember this one party that the soon to be married guy was stripped down to his b-day suit by three strippers and the each one of them had sex with him while all the guys cheered on. Afterwards, most of the men lined up to get BJ's from these strippers. I was so surprised and I'm so glad I didn't join the action, but I did tip and get a feel one breast.

[blitzkrieged]

Our reasons have nothing to do with trust, we trust eachother.

 

It's just that we'd find the ideas of strippers disgusting and we're very old fashioned and wouldn't find it appropriate at all.

 

Just like how we don't watch porn at all, becuase we find it objectifying and gross. It makes me laugh in the past when I used to watch it every once in awhile.

 

I really hope yall are truly on the same page here or i see this getting pretty hairy

[ghost69]

we will see in 5 years rose.

[diabolik]

we will see in 5 years rose.

I give it less than that. But I'm a skeptic.

[ghost69]

why isn't this in the trust section anyways?

[Doc Blaze]

alot can change...i used to be into drag racing and putting all my money into cars and said i would never drink or get drunk

 

fast fwd: my motor in my car has been blown for a year now and not touched and i go to the bar at least 3 times a week..chances might be high that you will never do it but its not 100 percent

[Scorpion Fury]

I wouldn't put up with it. I don't care who's bachelor party it is.

[Day_Walker]

I have been to bachelor parties that were tame and some that were wild. Personally the issue comes down to trust. If you cannot trust your partner to act appropriately then you shouldnt be marrying them in the first place, but people simply dont want to view the issue that way.

[Scorpion Fury]

If I ever found out a guy I was in a relationship with cheated on me period, stripper or not, it would be a wrap.

[Unknown1607307972]

If my guy wanted there to be a stripper for some reason, or if his friends were planning one for his bachelor party, personally I'd rather they went to a club than had a private stripper because there's less chance of things going on that shouldn't with security around. I'd be extremely mad if he got a "private dance", pretty much a no physical contact rule. If it's just for the novelty and bachelour party tradition then it's fine but I wouldn't want him to touch the strippers or do anything explicit with them. I trust my boyfriend, even when he's drunk he's dedicated but it still would just make me feel...well, inferiour to the stripper. I am not very confident in myself and I wouldn't want some stripper with big boobs in barely any clothing grinding against him.

 

Anything off limits in a bachelour party would be the same for my hen night too. It has to be fair after all.

[Rose21]

Needless to say, I wouldn't be okay with it.

 

and for the guy who said the soon to be married guy was having sex with all the strippers, well all I can say is he must of had NO respect for his wife. If I was her, I'd dump him in a heart beat and call off the wedding.

 

And for his friends to go along with it, well I have to say he must have MAJOR issues. If my bf saw something like that was happening, he'd be out in a heartbeat!

 

Drinking may change, but morals wont.

[Maroney555]

Well all of the guys he's friends with and in his fraternity (strictly acadrmic, no parties/drinking etc) and stand up guys.

 

WOW!!!!!!

 

No offense, but fraternities and sororities are DESIGNED to party and mingle with other "clubs."

 

Sure, they have to withhold a certain grade standard, but no fraternity I have ever heard of is just there for "academic" purposes.........unless it was a club. For example: I got a scholarship from a fraternity GROUP that raised money and awareness for locals (which, now that I think about it was an old fraternity who became a fundraising group). BUT!!! No fraternity or sorority with a "house" on campus that does "rushes" is "strictly academic."

 

Sorry darlin'...but I did the Greek thing and many of my friends did as well.......and YES, I know those who did the Greek thing in Texas, believe it or not.

[Kumatora]

Ok...girls what would you do if you found out your guy was doing things to a stripper at a bachelor party AND guys what the worst thing you've done..and did you tell?

Lets reverse this... what about girls going to a strip club? And my first bachelorette party took place at one. Let's not single out a specific group here.

 

But to answer your question, I would not mind what my partner does as long as it doesn't violate our relationship. I doubt he would. If he goes to one, well... so will I.

 

For the most part, you can't do a whole lot to strippers, either privately or in strip clubs. They have security accompany them and there's a no touch rule.

That's bull. There are always exceptions to rules at a strip club. With certain customers who offer a LOT of money, strippers will let you touch them. I know a few strippers who do that. A transaction is a transaction to them.

 

No offense, but fraternities and sororities are DESIGNED to party and mingle with other "clubs."

 

Sure, they have to withhold a certain grade standard, but no fraternity I have ever heard of is just there for "academic" purposes.........unless it was a club. For example: I got a scholarship from a fraternity GROUP that raised money and awareness for locals (which, now that I think about it was an old fraternity who became a fundraising group). BUT!!! No fraternity or sorority with a "house" on campus that does "rushes" is "strictly academic."

 

Sorry darlin'...but I did the Greek thing and many of my friends did as well.......and YES, I know those who did the Greek thing in Texas, believe it or not.

A real Winner right here.

[Cognitive_Canine]

WOW!!!!!!

 

No offense, but fraternities and sororities are DESIGNED to party and mingle with other "clubs."

 

Sure, they have to withhold a certain grade standard, but no fraternity I have ever heard of is just there for "academic" purposes.........unless it was a club. For example: I got a scholarship from a fraternity GROUP that raised money and awareness for locals (which, now that I think about it was an old fraternity who became a fundraising group). BUT!!! No fraternity or sorority with a "house" on campus that does "rushes" is "strictly academic."

 

Sorry darlin'...but I did the Greek thing and many of my friends did as well.......and YES, I know those who did the Greek thing in Texas, believe it or not.

 

Yes, we have the math fraternity and the Biology fraternity, and the business fraternity....but, they don't actually have a house. More like "high honors" club that you have to apply to your junior year. And, there certainly is no rushing nor parties. Maybe luncheons with a guest speaker from another school's professor or events to go to local conventions (like the fruit fly show in Chicago, the bio frat goes there every year and usually more than 1 of them has a presentation in it).

 

Is that what you mean, rose?

 

The service co ed fraternity (APO) focuses on charity work but they were the worst drinkers on campus. Most of them were my friends.

[Rose21]

No, his fraternity is legit. It doesn't have any greek letters, but it's the most academic one of all the campuses, there are 22.

 

My boyfriend is currently at a Rush now, it's required that all the members go to help out the newbies (freshman) and tell them what the fraternity entails.

 

 

What I mean though, is his fraternity is the academic kind. Meaning that they don't throw parties, and when they do anything "social" it's only for the fraternity members, meaning no outsiders allowed such as girls etc.

 

I've been to the house, there is one on campus. And no, they do not drink. It is a dry campus, and there is no drinking allowed in the house, or on the campus.

 

They do things together. Like onetime my boyfriend went to the "clay shoot" they had held, and he did the "March for dimes" (I think it was called)

 

But yeah they are pretty strict, and are know as the "Gentleman on Campus."

 

 

I even looked up his fraternity on Urban Dictionary and it said "A fraternity that shouldn't even be considered one because it has no greek letters and only plays video games and have the members have sex with eachother and not party or drink"

 

Guy-"Hey did you go to that party last night"

 

Guy2- "No, it was all just a bunch of sober straight guys having sex with eachother"

 

 

 

 

So basically, it's a fraternity for the nerds. But you know what? I like it that way! And I'm glad my boyfriend is in a fraternity like that, it changes my opinion about what they were about, and he choose it because it has good connections for outside of college, they have connections all over the country and he didn't want to be in a fraternity that drinks and parties. Whenever he was doing the Rush and fraternities were inviting my bf to parties, he declined.

 

That's not what he's into.

 

Not ALL fraternities have parties, and if they dont it doesnt mean that they arn't a real one.

[cocopuff]

WOW!!! Cool thread.

 

I would like to share my strip-club experience with all of you.

 

When I was 19, I worked as wait-staff slinging booze in a male strip club in Windsor, Ontario Canada while I was going to University. The drinking age in Canada was also 19, which made me legal to be there.

 

Windsor is located 5 minutes accross the Detroit River from Detroit, Michigan. From Thursday to Saturday night, our club was absolutely packed... with women! In fact, club policy was no guy-patrons allowed from Thursday to Saturday.

 

These women were huge tippers and that is why I was there ($$$). After my first night on the job, all the half-naked male strippers looked the same to me and I never really noticed them anymore... well OK, I would peak once in a while when a 'certain criteria' was on stage, but I was truly in it for the money for my University.

 

The point of this story, is about the women who patronized this place. They were not skankey chicks looking to score a boyfriend. These were all very well-heeled ladies that came accross the Canada/U.S. border from the good 'ol U.S. of A. They would come accross the border in limos, dressed to the nine's and usually in small groups. These women were in their 20's, 30's and 40's.

 

It was through idle conversation that I learned that these women were Americans. For the most part, they were spouses or girlfriends of auto company executives who sort of hung out together, as GM and Ford were located in Detroit. Generally speaking, the fashion statement they were making made it obvious that they were Americans, but for the most part their accent gave them away. Canadians don't have accents, eh.

 

I think what impressed me about my job the most, was witnessing the behavior of those seemingly sex-starved young, rich women, who seemed to have it all going for them. Quite frankly, they did have it all going for themselves, including going out on the town to do what they damn well fancied on girl's night out. Often, I would see the same faces, got to know what they drank and brought it to them before they even ordered. They thought that was cool too ($$$). Little did they know, I excelled at memorizing names and numbers with uncanny recall.

 

From Thursday's opening to Saturday's closing, you couldn't hear yourself think, the screaming and yelling was so intense. Apparently, it is not quite that enthusiastic in a female strip club. Guys are always so conservative!

 

accross the back of the club behind the general seating area, were very private booths that were all done up with individual wash basins, towels, specialty soaps and of course, mood lighting. The booths were always occupied by female patrons along with their favorite male dancer, but it was only ever the dancer that had his clothes off. In other words, the place never turned into a Bohemian free-for-all at any time.

 

The ambiance was tasteful and respectful, however almost anything 'went' (or should I say 'came') behind the velvet door curtains of those private booths. I know, because I was invited in to deliver drink orders and then leave. Funny thing was, when the regulars got to know me, they never skipped a beat or even looked at me when I entered. I just kept a tab and they looked after me at the end of their evening.

 

I watched business cards transact their way into the loin cloths of dancers many, many times and I even received a few myself. Apart from memorizing their names, the cards were of little value to me.

 

My University boyfriend at the time was a little skeptical of me working in a male strip club at first, but he too grew use to it when he learned of my motive for money and my lack of interest in the countless half-naked male bodies within my workplace (of which I never did reveal the exceptions!).

 

He like myself, was strapped for cash and neither one of us went out on the town that much. I know that he never attended female strip clubs because he never had any money, although he did resent his male friends who could afford to go.

 

As a trade-off, I would dance for my boyfriend on our coffee table at 2am when I got home from work, while he sat in the sofa with a beer and watched me for free. I did all the things on that coffee table that I learned from the stage as I watched and memorized the moves of professionals from the dark shadows of the club.

 

Being a professional gymnast myself, I got pretty good on that coffee table for his benefit and I invented a few cool moves myself. I never made any money at it, but my late night show did keep him at home when I returned there on a Saturday night.

 

Actually, I confess. I never did it for free. Although he had no money, I made him pay his tab in trade at the end of the evening and I was very, very expensive!

 

For all of you ladies of this thread who don't believe in double standards, I applaud your convictions.

 

For all of you guys of this thread who don't believe that ladies night out has ever been an issue, you're right... it's not!

[Cognitive_Canine]

I just talked to my boyfriend about this. He said he'll probably end up watching Lord of the Rings at his bachelor party.

 

And, I can have a stripper at my bachelorette party. But only if he gets to punch him in the face afterward. Lol.

[Rose21]

ROFL Debaser!

 

That cracked me up, expec the Lord of the Rings part.

 

Now THATS a man!!

 

And I mean that totaly non-sarcastically!!

[greywolf]

I just talked to my boyfriend about this. He said he'll probably end up watching Lord of the Rings at his bachelor party.

 

And, I can have a stripper at my bachelorette party. But only if he gets to punch him in the face afterward. Lol.

 

That's why you get them a stripper and have someone record it so that you can see their face turn red from embarrassment.

 

I'm gonna marry a shy guy purely for this reason.

[sarahN]

I'm not sure if most guys know this, or if most girls do this but in my circle it's girl code to get even. So you got a lap dance from a stripper? A lot of girls see this as a free pass to maybe sneak a kiss from someone, that sort of thing. It seems to work too, the guy really has no place to get mad.

[Maroney555]

Yes, we have the math fraternity and the Biology fraternity, and the business fraternity....but, they don't actually have a house. More like "high honors" club that you have to apply to your junior year. And, there certainly is no rushing nor parties. Maybe luncheons with a guest speaker from another school's professor or events to go to local conventions (like the fruit fly show in Chicago, the bio frat goes there every year and usually more than 1 of them has a presentation in it).

 

Is that what you mean, rose?

 

The service co ed fraternity (APO) focuses on charity work but they were the worst drinkers on campus. Most of them were my friends.

 

RIGHT! That's what I meant when I was going off on my rant.

 

In California, a dry campus only means that the campus itself doesn't sell booze. Are you sure that his "dry" campus is the where NO alcohol is allowed? I am not sure what dry campuses in Texas are, but I know what they are considered in California and they aren't what you described.

 

Also, just because they can be academically focused doesn't eliminate other possibilities. I hope you aren't blinded by that. When I was in a sorority, we were academically focused and had the top average GPA of all the houses fraternity and sorority alike, but we still partied. We didn't ADVERTISE that we partied, but we still did. And for ever fraternity or sorority, they HAVE to have a philanthropic purpose. It's a requirement by the schools. Each house HAS to contribute to society in a positive way and through a certain charity. We raised money for people with speech and hearing problems. And we did the cancer walk in SF, march of dimes fundraisers. Etc.

 

Anyways, sorry OP for the off topic rant...I don't even know how we started talking about the Greek system anyways,

[Maroney555]

Cocopuff: Really interesting way to look at it. Thanks, for your story.

[cocopuff]

 

Cocopuff: Really interesting way to look at it. Thanks, for your story.

 

 

Oh, your welcome! Sorry it got so long, but the truth is I only touched the tip of the iceberg regarding the class of people or specific cliental out there who solicit the 'entertainment' services of a stripper and in particular, who pretends not to yet condemns those who do.

 

I could have taken it further to demonstrate a point, but I think that Ford and particularly GM might appreciate that the best parts remain locked in the trunk along with the keys!