Mythical_Suicide Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Should have shot back with, don't worry she's still a virgin, I've only done her up the a$$. Yea I dare someone to come back with that sort of attitude when dating my child.. They will not be very happy afterwards. I can guarantee that. Link to comment
Mythical_Suicide Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 yes but I'll never be ok with my parents havign sex neither! omg its wrong lmao it scares me! XD yet I know I wouldnt be here otherwise, What are you talking about? Our parents don't have sex.. the stork brought us.. *shivers at the thought* Link to comment
lady00 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 What are you talking about? Our parents don't have sex.. the stork brought us.. *shivers at the thought* I remember when I first had sex ed as a kid, I was appalled. I was convinced my parents had me some other way. LOL. Link to comment
iambrazilian Posted March 16, 2008 Author Share Posted March 16, 2008 I am STILL convinced my parents had me some other way... mom: hey hun, wanna so dome erotic doggy? dad: sure love...let me lift my gut first... O_O Link to comment
Brittney2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I am STILL convinced my parents had me some other way... mom: hey hun, wanna so dome erotic doggy? dad: sure love...let me lift my gut first... O_O LOL....that made me laugh, I feel better now. This whole thread is funny. Link to comment
Superfreak Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Yea I dare someone to come back with that sort of attitude when dating my child.. They will not be very happy afterwards. I can guarantee that. Right because it would be perfectly reasonable for a parent to threaten to hack a young mans penis off while he's within earshot and done nothing wrong It was totally classless behaviour, and sometimes two wrongs can make a right (or at least make you feel better). It was obviously meant as a joke since saying that would ruin any future he had with this girl, but if I had nothing to lose I'd consider it well within my rights to respond to her with the same amount of thought and care that she put in to what she said. Link to comment
iambrazilian Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 I agree with Superfreak here... she was clearly being an obnoxious, overprotective douche... she could have chosen better words... Link to comment
Mythical_Suicide Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Believe me, once you become a parent your feelings will change. Especially if you have a daughter. Link to comment
shadesofmediocrity Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Yeah, the stereotype is a very horrible generalization!! There are differences between the genders, obviously; guys cannot become pregnant so naturally there would be more concern for the female party. Teenage pregnancy is a scary thought. So it makes sense that that would be a large contributing factor here. And the fact that us females are (generally!) more physically vulnerable and sex can hurt us. And so can having babies. Which I imagine is no fun at all. But especially now, with there being quite a bit more sexual liberation than in the past (well not in the PAST past, I imagine homo erectus was a lot less concerned about his girlfriend's parents throwing a hissy fit cause he seduced their daughter!), the stereotype of girls having no power over their sex lives is quite outdated. Just speaking for myself, ha ha, I am a naturally exploratory person and my mind is not exactly all 'pure' and chaste I took the initiative in my current relationship, to start that conversation and get things rolling in that direction, after I was sure I was comfortable to do so. Which was nice; I would be pretty indignant if my boyfriend started pressuring me, even though I know he would never. But it makes sense - as stated above, we are the ones with more to lose here! Plus with better birth control methods nowadays and all - isn't it logical that we take hold of that aspect of our lives? This is just my point of view though, I am sure other people prefer to do things more traditionally. But conventionality isn't always a good thing Course I am partly theorizing, I haven't gotten all the way there yet. But naturally curious person that I am, I am sure that there are some very esoteric practices I've missed, but I know quite a horrifying amount about sex. hahahaha. I am not sure if my parents are fully aware of this; I imagine they too would rather think of their child as just that, and don't want me to go growing up and everything I don't want to know about their sex life, so I'm naturally keeping mine to myself unless something really not good happened. LOL. Like I'd expect I'd get told if my mom somehow got pregnant, you know? I know they may disapprove of me being fairly youngish (as I imagine you might) but I do know what I am getting into here. The emotional part is slightly intimidating, but we are moving slowly and we have very good communication. I'm not expecting perfection but I am doing my darnedest to not do things I am going to regret. There has to be a first time for everything...but I digress. hehe. Link to comment
Superfreak Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Believe me, once you become a parent your feelings will change. Especially if you have a daughter. I wasn't aware that being a parent exempted you from showing basic curtesy. Silly me and my warped youthful mind Link to comment
ghost69 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 you know why fathers get this attitude about their daughters? i mean come on, we are guys. you know how we can be. fathers have been there too. put it together. Link to comment
valiantv Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 It's all to do with the fact that the guy has the plug while the girl has the socket! So it's like the guy is doing it / giving it to the girl! Think electrical appliances... It's the one with the plug that's usually "using" the socket! Also, a girl can't really force a guy to have sex... if he's not in the mood, then... But it might be misconstrued that the girl has been taken advantage of... Link to comment
Mythical_Suicide Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 you know why fathers get this attitude about their daughters? i mean come on, we are guys. you know how we can be. fathers have been there too. put it together. My point exactly.. When you become a parent, especially if you have a daughter you will be the same exact way because face it, you know how guys are.. I never once said it made you exempt from anything but you would understand it alittle more if you did have kids. Link to comment
Batya33 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I don't have kids. But I have teenage nieces and have felt that same irrational "what? he tried to do what?" and I read into even the nicest conversation some evil intent. I felt the same way when I taught children and when I worked with children recently in a shelter. I do understand that parents in certain cases have every entitlement to say "you'll know when you're a parent" but in this case I think the experiences of aunts, uncles, grandparents, teachers all are just as relevant and valid. Link to comment
Daddy Bear Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I don't have kids. But I have teenage nieces and have felt that same irrational "what? he tried to do what?" and I read into even the nicest conversation some evil intent. I felt the same way when I taught children and when I worked with children recently in a shelter. I do understand that parents in certain cases have every entitlement to say "you'll know when you're a parent" but in this case I think the experiences of aunts, uncles, grandparents, teachers all are just as relevant and valid. Some people are engaged with others' children and some aren't. Parental concern for one's own child, on the other hand, is presumed to be universally present and potent. I don't believe that MS was remiss in not including a 'grandfather clause' in her statement. Link to comment
kenshinkitten Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Uh...well guys are known by society to be horny little creatures. That might contribute. Plus girls are supposed to be perfect little princesses. When I fist started dating my boyfriend he was 18 and I was 17, we're about 9 months apart. And my parents said if we had sex they'd file a suet against him, for like...being with a minor. Which is retarded, ugh. When they found out though I was just barely 18. That was horrible. My dad didn't talk to me for a week. It shouldn't be blamed solely on the guy, I agree but I don't think we can change the way society thinks on that front just yet. Link to comment
midnightrambler Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Uh...well guys are known by society to be horny little creatures. That might contribute. Plus girls are supposed to be perfect little princesses. When I fist started dating my boyfriend he was 18 and I was 17, we're about 9 months apart. And my parents said if we had sex they'd file a suet against him, for like...being with a minor. Which is retarded, ugh. When they found out though I was just barely 18. That was horrible. My dad didn't talk to me for a week. It shouldn't be blamed solely on the guy, I agree but I don't think we can change the way society thinks on that front just yet. i think girls are quite horny as well Link to comment
kenshinkitten Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 i think girls are quite horny as well Oh well they are but most are better at hiding it and society just seems to ignore it. Link to comment
midnightrambler Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Oh well they are but most are better at hiding it and society just seems to ignore it. what about all the attention given to the young celebrity girls? that is not ignoring it Link to comment
shadesofmediocrity Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 i think girls are quite horny as well Indeed. And obviously it is not fully ignored, though it is not taken as a threat. General social opinion, in our culture anyways, seems to see girls being overtly sexual as harmless, and even desired, as long as promiscuity is not implied and there is a veneer of innocence. Whereas for males, as they are traditionally more in a position of power to cause harm and unwanted 'corruption' of us females, their intent is seen as something to be defended against. Link to comment
CaptainPlanet Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Because sexism is perfectly ok so long as it is a man being sexisted. Infact in that case it is usually encourageable. Why ? becuase women have more rights than men. Link to comment
shadesofmediocrity Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I am going to be online 27/4 27 hours a day....4 days a week.....? hehe. Link to comment
CaptainPlanet Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 27 hours a day....4 days a week.....? hehe. I noticed that just before and thought I'd leave it I mix up numbers like that all the time. Link to comment
Batya33 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Because sexism is perfectly ok so long as it is a man being sexisted. Infact in that case it is usually encourageable. Why ? becuase women have more rights than men. Yes, that is one of your mantras -- maybe some day you'll actually post a link to an authoritative source (not just anecdotes about your extended family) that backs that up. Which "rights" are you referring to? I don't worry much about sexism -- there are other issues that I focus on more - but typically when there is sexism, the woman is the one being treated unfairly, not the man. Link to comment
CaptainPlanet Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Yes, that is one of your mantras -- maybe some day you'll actually post a link to an authoritative source (not just anecdotes about your extended family) that backs that up. Which "rights" are you referring to? I don't worry much about sexism -- there are other issues that I focus on more - but typically when there is sexism, the woman is the one being treated unfairly, not the man. Maybe you're the one who needs to do a little bit of research. Link to comment
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