McPhil

While I can agree on the fact that guys aren't made of money, if I was to go out with someone (ha, I wish) I'd pay for it even though I only get five bucks a week from my parents. But $4 is really not much and he should be able to pay for that

I've liked a girl for a while (let's call her Amy, since I know noone at my school named Amy Anyways, Amy isn't in any of my classes except gym, and it's not even technically co-ed, we just have it the same period. Unlike before, my shyness (great word) isn't as much of an issue, as I have gained a lot of confidence over the last few months (don't ask me how), but I really have no opportunities to talk to her and her social status is considerably higher than mine Her locker is next to my biology class, so I see her every day beforehand. How can I talk to her and tell her I'm interested without sounding really awkward? Thanks - Phil

Yeah, I've been feeling like that too, just not as seriously. My grades are going down, and when I get home I'm all depressed and stuff. I think my situation may come from a lack of self-confidence as most of my friends are "moving in" on girls, and it's not an option now because of my parents' attitude towards such things. I felt like this last winter, and I felt crummy and depressed for the whole winter before I felt better. I hope you feel better! - Philip

Thanks for the advice peoples. Yeah, I live in New York, but I live in the suburbs, and 20min bike ride (all I got, which sucks) to stores (civilization). As for my parents driving me, that's something I just couldn't do. Personally, I'm not close enough to my parents to confront them about something like this, and if they were driving, they'd try to make conversation which I'd find very awkward. As for the whole riding bike to date thing, I'd like to be able to pick up my date, rather than the whole meeting up deal. As for that I do keep clean, etc. and I've generally been nice to everyone (minus siblings ) but it doesn't seem to get me anywhere, yet I still am nice. Hrmph. Thanks again - Phil

There are quite a few excuses I'm consistently feeding myself as to why I can't ask someone out or actively go out, and I'd like some help with making these null and void. One of the initial things hindering me from asking someone out is the fact I can't drive anywhere myself, as I don't live in Florida, but New York, where we have the highest driving age in the country. And so being, driving isn't possible at my current age (14), and my parents refuse to allow me to get a permit at 16. And on the same subject, I have no friends that are old enough to drive, so there's no possiblity of that. I have an older sister who's 16, but she's not allowed to get a permit either. Any alternate suggestions for transportation? A few other excuses are my low self-confidence, being shy, and I have a rather low status, as the social classes go. So being, the girl I like is somewhat higher in the social class system. Another problem is that if I managed to pull myself together and ask someone out, I would be like the desperate, submissive, doormat people that is so ridiculed on these forums. I appreciate any help. - Phil

No Doug, you're not obsessed, even I've dreamed about girls I've liked, but it is really a malicious trick of the brain, as for me, they didn't really happen, and won't, unfortunately.

Yeah, that was the jist of my post. I appreciate the lemon comment, want to further elaborate that metaphor for us?

Easier said than done. For those of us who have never been shy, this is a very easy thing to say. But I have been a naturally shy person for my whole life, and it'll take a lot to change me, but I'm verrry slowly outgrowing it. As for Shinobie's first post, I find that to be true in most cases. Some of my friends are very nice people but have lots of trouble coming up with a girlfriend. Of course, tea's comment about being the submissive doormat type of person also holds some truth. It seems that girls want someone who is domineering, but not overly so, but only see the two extremes, and choose the domineering "jerk" as Shinobie so quaintly put it over the "nice guy" like him or I, for example.

Yeah, the quote's quite true in most cases. As for what someone said in an earlier post, those green apples at the top don't often fall down to us losers waiting for them at the bottom. Just the way I feel, after not being able to ask anyone out. Personally, I go for a nice in between, I don't want the stuck-up hot people at the top of the tree, but I am not able to find myself attracted to the ones with the rotten outside but nice center. Anyways . . . I'm rambling