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  1. First off do not make excuses or justifications for what you did. Own it completely. You were clear headed enough to walk to her room and take your clothes off so you were clear headed enough to stop anywhere along the way. Making excuses is insulting to your partner like it really wasn't your fault. Next, some might tell you to take this to your grave and in some cases perhaps it is the best option for some people but it sounds like it is already eating you up. Eventually she will see the guilt in your eyes and suspect you are hiding something. Before you tell her join AA and call your doctor for a referral to a therapist. This will show that you are serious about improving yourself all around. Once it is time sit down with her when there is plenty of time to talk and cry. Be prepared to take what ever she says at you and about you with no defense. Be prepared to answer all her questions without hesitation but be kind and do not go into details unless pressed by her. General information first and if she needs to hear more then tell her. If you live together have a place to stay that night lined up with a friend because she may throw you out and if she wants you to leave then leave as long as she is safe to be alone. How you phrase those words is impossible to help you with because it will crush her so all I can tell you is choose them carefully but be clear so she does not has to guess as to what you mean. In truth there is no easy way to tell the person that loves you so much you betrayed them... Lost
  2. No it is not cheating, betrayal or dishonest. In fact he was very straight with you from the start. He never lead you on, distanced himself from you and stayed because you asked him to. I know in your heart it was never really over and you imagined it would all work out. He accepted and dealt with the end of your relationship a long time ago but you are just at the beginning and the hurt is fresh so you feel the way you do. He didn't do anything wrong but it still hurts. Blaming him will not stop the pain nor will it change anything. Please move past all of this and accept it is truly over so you can start the healing process. Lost
  3. The problem will most of his lies is that he didn't even need to lie, he chose to lie and sometimes for no good reason. This is problematic in a relationship. Without trust there can be no TRUE love. This isn't a pathology, this is a lifestyle choice. He continually takes the easy way out instead of owning his choices in life. You cannot teach someone to be truthful, you cannot beg them to be honest with you and you cannot trust a lair. It is that simple. This is who he is from day one and he has not stopped. I assume you love this man but who are you really in love with? Lost
  4. Those two guys didn't walk over and join you for absolutely no reason. My guess is the guy you were talking to was the wingman and things in his mind became disrespectful to his gf so he bailed. He did the right thing, if it feels wrong then you shouldn't be doing it. If it is disrespectful to your s/o then don't do it. Trusting someone is fine but respect is just as important. Lost
  5. I totally agree. Telling your spouse "there's the door if you don't like it" is someone that needs help opening up and being honest with you and herself. She has obviously changed and wants no type of intimacy at all which is not good. She sounds like a cold person that would rather be alone. Intimacy in a supposedly loving marriage is important. Intimacy does not mean intercourse, it means being intimate with each other emotionally and physically. A warm hug, a kiss for no reason, playful touching and on and on. It sounds to me like she may think she loves you but by the way she treats you she is definitely not in love with you any longer. Talk to her and ask her if she would be willing to attend marriage counseling with you. If she declines then go by yourself so you can have someone to help you figure what is best for your life. Loving her to bits is not enough I am sorry Lost
  6. You never know until you try so go for it. This may be one of those times when you have to play the long game a little. Go on the 3 person date, have fun and then the next chance you get ask this mutual friend if birthday party girl has said anything about you, mention that you really like her and would like to date her. Who knows she may bow out and tell her to contact you. No matter what happens don't decide for them by bailing on a hunch you or we may have on the intentions of either of them. Funny how having a mutual friend seemed like a good thing at first now it is getting in the way. Lost
  7. Walk right through that and go on the date. This is an opportunity for you to spend time with her again like at the party. There were other people there then so go, be charming and funny with both women but focus most of your attention towards her. If she is trying to fix up you and the mutual friend you will know for sure in the first 30 minutes. They are friends and this friend may have told her she has a crush on you so she is being a good friend and not stealing you away. Best thing for you is to go and make it clear you are only into her. If nothing comes of it fine but at least you made the effort and didn't just give up at the first signs of difficulty. If you do this right the mutual friend may tell her to go for it with you as you two get on so well. Dating is not easy and it gets exponentially harder if you quit to easily. Lost
  8. EXACTLY You want a date with her so ask. I don't think I have ever missed an opportunity by asking to soon but I know of plenty of times where I waited to long... Lost
  9. She is into you it seems as you are her so make a move sooner than later. There is nothing wrong with texting her tomorrow unless you want to play games and wait. "I had such a great time talking and hanging out with you at the party, would you like to meet for a drink/coffee/ice cream one day soon?" Right now she has a positive view of you, but if you wait she might start thinking you aren't that into her or play games. If you contact her sooner there is less chance of blowing it with her than waiting unless of course you come off as needy, desperate or overly eager. No need to wait till the next weekend, after work may work out great. Lost
  10. You dodged a bullet with this guy. Stand your ground with douche bags like this. When someone says "Its weird you don't have instragram or followers" Simply reply "Its weird you place so much value on something so fake" Personally if a woman I was interested in judged her own self worth and value on the number of followers she has I would be concerned. Social media has created a generation or two of narcissists. Lost
  11. Does it matter what it is called? There need not be penetration for it to be cheating and in fact an emotional affair is much worse than a one night stand with someone that means nothing to them. Here is one of the most used lines by cheaters: "We are just friends" It does not matter what we think or what reddit thinks, what matters is what you think and feel about her disrespecting you and the marriage while not caring one bit about your feelings. She can use what ever euphemisms she wants but it is still WRONG! It sounds like your marriage still needs work so ask her this one simple question: Do you still want to repair and make our marriage stronger and more healthy? When she answers yes then follow it with "then how does spending intimate time alone with another man help our marriage?" This is one of those its only a matter of time deals so be a door mat and keep eating your emotions until she finally finishes what she started with this guy or start the process of ending your marriage to a woman that clearly is not made for monogamous relationships. Lost
  12. No it isn't. Intimacy is way more than just sex. This is all tied together and a good therapist will help both of you understand this. Your husband was not born this way just like you were not born the way you are. Life shapes us, molds us into who we are. Sometimes good sometimes not so good and we carry it with us until something happens to shock us into bettering ourselves. A dear friend with a serious illness, a death in the family, a close friend falling on hard times, a divorce or break up and on and on. What we do and how we react define who we are. This is a defining moment for both of you and if for nothing else seek out a therapist for your sons sake so he can grow up in a healthy and happy environment. Does your health car provide for counseling? Lost
  13. Take him up on his offer right away. Neither of you will understand and work towards a happy balance without some sort of outside help so don't be stubborn and expect him to figure this all out on his own, reach out and get help if you are serious about making the relationship better. I am sure he made the offer because you mentioned leaving which is unfortunate it came to that but since you are here run with it as fast as you can. I have been on this forum a very long time and when you have read as many threads as us veterans you understand that the OP is posting from their point of view and you learn to spot someone just looking for validation or if they are genuine and want help resolving an issue. If someone gets to a point where they start googling for answers. finds this place and makes an account and posts a thread we need to listen, ask questions and go off the information given. Lost
  14. So the adventure continues on POF. I sent a message out on Valentines evening to a 49 year old woman. That was 20 days ago and she just responded with an apology for not getting back to me as she isn't on the site that often. The thing is she checked out my profile a couple days after I sent the message. In fact I am pretty sure she has checked my profile a few times since I sent the message. I guess she ran out of better options 😁 It actually doesn't surprise or bother me as I totally get it. I will act as if she responded right away and we shall see how it goes. I responded a moment a go and will keep an eye out for a response. Match keeps sending me "Matches" and I can go and view profiles even though my subscription ran out. I guess they are trying to draw me back in. The thing is they keep sending the same ole same ole... Lost
  15. This is coming from a man that was raised by my father to be tough as nails and my heart was hard once a long time ago. Men grow and change just like anyone can. This man has a son which the OP carried and gave birth to which should break down the walls of even the hardest heart. After 15 years no matter how good or bad the relationship has been he should be concerned for her and want her to be happy. If anyone is sitting with their partner and they begin to cry how cold of a person are you to ignore it? How uncaring? It isn't nagging, he just doesn't want to hear it because he would have to put in some effort to try and be emotionally available. He simply may not be capable in his current state. I hope your son is not imprinting on his father on how to treat the ones you love and show compassion and caring towards others. My father was a good man that did the best he could by me with the way he was raised in Texas. He was left handed so his father tied his left arm behind his back at the dinner table because left handed people are not allowed where they lived and no son of his was going to be a lefty. There was no softness as that was considered weakness. Some men overcome their upbringing while others hide behind it. Lost
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