Music is the key

A girl will usualy phone you if she like you,albiet in a attractive manner or if she just wants to talk to you. Not all girls phone lads(Not unless they no them before hand) but if she does,then shes prolly interested in you.

Iam a virgin to. I've never even had a girlfriend. If you really like this girl,then progress with her.Take her out,eventualy kiss her etc etc. If you're desperate to loose it to any girl then it depends on two things.A are you a decent looking lad?And B how do you feel about yourself...Lots od self esteem and confidence?If so,then just go to a club chat a load of birds up and at least 1 at the end of the night will wanna do something with you.

I never realised that you lived in the U.k. Have you been single for a while now?And do you find most British/English girls to be Shallow/Arrogant? I do.......And i know that eventualy the'll want me.....for reasons i cant be assed going into....but i wont want them back.....they had there chance,thats the way is see it. Still Turboz....The picture of you is is kinda cheesy....stop trying to look like a film star auditiioning for the latest Mission Inpossible movie,act nice and honest,and you never know...you might just pull!!!!

^^^^^Very Very true....

Hahahah,I cant believe this is coming from the man who had a go at me for jumping to conclusions....lol.....Mr Turboz a little bitter maybe?...just a bit. Oh well....Now your learning!Women are self obsessed arrogant bitch's....Tell it like it is... Holla

Women respond to those they find attractive,if they dont find you attractive there not gonna come up to you in the blue and strike up a conversation.,Kinda harsh but the quicker you realize that the better.Girls are very shallow,especialy at your age.Mr Virus is right in what he says about going up to them and chatting to them.Most girls are dumb and desparate...So if you go up to her and talk to her,make her laugh etc she will Probably like you.....Like he said,stand your ground..I mean afterall your a man,your better than she'll ever be .....dont be scared of them/her....cuz all they are is a piece of meat.....Stand tall,be confident and talk to those bitch's .....then come back and tell us how you did.

Whatever..Shrink this,shrink that.......But She's not a lady,iam only being honest.She's Easy,cheap and stupid.......but her new boyfriend is more stupid.......Anyway Turboz...Good luck and enjoy your life.

Jeffery dont believe them. Iam confident,outgoing,iam a musician in aband and a producer who has a 12ich single out very soon.....so iam not a boring person with no passion or interests....but i'll tell you from my own experience.....Most and i say Most girls are shallow.Iam not good looking,iam short and iam not "fit"..Ive come to accept that now...and iam really happy with who i am...I can go in any Bar,Club,Restuarant etc and hold my head up high....Because iam kind,funny and talented,most of witch these young shallow tarts have none of the 3 i just mentioned. Ive never had a girlfriend since i was 12(And that was for only 2 weeks).Iam 21 now.....yea yea,you may say iam too young to care about these things or to young to be so bitter,but iam a sensative and intelligent person to understand that no matter what,iam still single,never been appreciated by a girl my own age,never have a any female company and iam always and i litteraly mean always ignored by girls whenever i go out...witch is most weekends,even if i let on to them.Witch tell's me that most girls out there are shallow...and they only care about one thing....."Is he fit?"...... I dont know how old you are...and what your overall outlook is on this siht your going through......but i have become bitter,i dislike girls,infact i have no respect for them what so ever,iam not looking for a girlfriend anymore or sex,love etc.....because i dont care about them.I couldnt care less if they died tomorrow.Iam concentration on trying to get a brake in this music industry.....If i fail,then i fail....but at least i tried to do something with my life....witch is what you should be doing...or maybe you already are.....Iam not influencing you i into becoming a woman hate like me.....you have to make your own choice in life....but try and try and try to not let those arrogant pieces of siht upset and damage your confidence....because at the end of the day..all woman are think,sluts and have no brain.......Alwyas remember that.

I know what your saying Ck. There scum,and society wants us to shut up about it. The truth is Girls have more power in this system than ever before... let em know how you feel....i do.. I tell people what i really feel about stupid girls... Some people cant take the truth.....but it makes you feel better...

Yea iam in a band. Were very heavy,like Slayer,Machine Head.... It's preety standard at the moment,but we'll progress. I find that this sort of music is great for exposing and really awllowing my deep inner feelings to get out of my system...... We having come up with a name yet.... We were thinking of "The Haunted" only to find a brilliant Thrash metal act already have that name.

Yea...again very true... The only way guys get chatted up or asked out by girls,is if there really good looking,cute etc.... And in most cases it's gotta be the guys who have to approach and show interest.. Your spot on abou the self esteem thingy...

Ck......Too true,too true.... This is why most folks and girls a-like dont understand our frustration or anger. I mean like you said,Most of the girls on here and most folks from every walk of life could log of the internet right now,go out tonight and either pull or meet someone,i mean the very least they would get is a bit of flirting!! So thereforeeeee wether they realise it or not,there mental state,ego's and overall confidence is alterd and boosted,Hence them having a better and more positive outlook on Pulling! I have my mates and family(like my mum) come up to me when iam out and say "Be happy","Cheer up","Smile"...but for them its ok,there enjoying themselves.....They fell ACCPETED,they know there accepted...They have dates in the past,most likely sex as well,and there probably going through sex/dates in the present.They Mental state is in a much healthier position than mine or yours. Its very very hard for people who never been through a degree of rejection and lonlyness to understand how it REALLY feels AND how it subconsciously alters your mind. CK- "I don't think people understand; because when you say be confident it's hard if your experiences consist of people insulting you; ignoring you or otherwise" Very true....

What the hell is wrong with Slayer?? Can you play as fast as Kerry king?,or have you ever come up with word renowend rifs sucj as reign in blood,War ensemble or South of heaven?? Quality group,and still are........

"Rockers have throught time had trouble getting girls - it's something to do with the whole death side of the music" very true...Plus that fact that its so energetic and loud....Girls think you must be some ugly angry oath who's pissed of with everything,who wants to kill everything!!!

Hahahaha,I guess there is.Your right when you stated female insicurity and unhappyness is directed towards men! Still,iam not really botherd any more,ive got bigger and better things to do and concentrate on,than GIRLS! Peace

Turboz,You sound just like me! "I've never wanted to upset a woman before but now with each passing day I'm becoming more and more bitter towards them all." Now that is me to a T! Women are quite(Espicialy when young) shallow,nieve(Bad spelling) and dumb. The key to it all is to show interest in them.Talk to them,just simply go up to a girl you fancy and start chatting to her.Its the only way you can go. Becoming more bitter,upset and hate filled is eventualy gonna drive you mad,like me. Dont let girls think your unhappy or depressed.Dont let them think your unhappy and sad because you have no g/f,dont let those bitches theink they have one.Your only 21,LIVE your life and do what ever you want to do,they really are not worth all the hassle,pain and unhappyness there casuing you.Women are a fickle race,the modern day world seems to have turned women into shallow,vein,shit talking little bitches,so embrace it! Talk to them,make em laugh and be honest,dont come accross as cheesy. If she dosnt like you then move on to the next,is that silly little bitches loss,thats what you gotta think. remember,we men are better,more inteligent and open minded than those silly warped ***s.Peace

Hey Anon2,Point taken.I certinly understand what your saying. I just dont respect girls no more,and if that means iam desdind for a life of lonlyness,then so be it. I dont care,love,respect or want them anymore.To me there scum.So iam gonna do what ever i can to do something with this music stuff. And if i fail,then at least i will have tried.Iam 21 and tired of been ignored,rejected and respecting girls who dont respect me.You keep doing ya thing with your dj-ing(Iam really surprised dj-ing hasnt found you a girl,chics in the u.k love djs)I produce a lot of rap,so yea,i know how hard and time consuming the technological side is.Dope mcs dont exept any beat!But for now,girls take a back seat.If i might a girl though playing,making music then cool,but if i dont then i wont sweat it.They really aint good enough,or worth the time and un-happyness they make me feel!If i do become ,if you like unware of my self becoming obsessed then fair play,my fault.But i would rather do this,than chase some 2-bit tart who aint worth shit.Keep ya head bro!!

If you would have loved music so much,you would have taken up learning an instrument or producing,in a serious way.But you never did,so you liked to play other peoples records,it helped make you happy,cure your lonlyness,but i wouldnt class that as a dedicated musician.Djs are Djs,they play records and mix,but learning a couple of instruments and making records solid is a whole different game.You do it because you love it. For me,part of the reason i have no bitch is probably because i am so wrapped up in it,but *** it.......iam only young!

Cool,You dj-ayed,played other peoples records and collected records. Not been a dick or anything,but ive been playing drums since i was 10,guitar since i was 12 and bass guitar came after that,I know produce rock,rap and neo-soul. Music for me isnt something i do because iam bored and depressed.I do it because i love it,its my life.You may have played other peoples records,but did you ever release a record and get it played on some radio stations?Did you ever work with other recording artis i.e rappers,guitarists,singers,dummers? What you did in your life and with your dj-ing,throuth thoe 10 years bares no close example on me.If a right girl came along,she would have to exepct me for ME!And she would certinly have too accept my dedication with music.Chances are,she would probably be impressed with what ive done so far,and the fact that i actualy do it,and not just talk it. You may have been lonly,and took to dj-ing,collecting records etc because of bordem,un-happyness,but for me its not like that.Of course been single has gave me more time to practise and learn,i actualy consider that as a blessing.Most of my friends are in boring relationships,either settled down,or just dam right bored(burn outs). I love what i do,and i garuntee,doing what i do and been happy about what i do will one day rub of on the right girl!!

Good point. If your chatting with a girl, your acting decent,honest and the bitch still dosnt like u then move on. Dont sweat Also,its true about concentrating on more important youthfull things... Such as,I can play guitar much better now and improving,all dew to the fact i had maad time on my hands....

Iam very glad to see this topic been braught up,for i am in the exact same position as Sad lonly boy. Iam 21 and Like Anon have had a couple of g/f that lasted for about a week,maybe 2 week.Iam still a virgin and have trouble meeting,talking and geeting girls.It frustrates me and (gotta be honest)has even changed my opinion on Young Women.Of course iam not suggesting i hate them,but in all admitance i dont respect them quite like i used to. Thats mainly because of the lonlyness and rejection me feels. Just like Anon,i used to think that a girl will come to me,and things will move on from there. Of course she never does!,and it hardly ever works that way anyway,unless your exeptionaly good looking!! When i go out i struggle to make a conversation with a girl. Ive gone through a lot of emotions that just like anon lead you to feel your breaking up.Anyway, iam not gonna keep rambling on.What has already been said from this post,is exactly how i feel. BUT,I am doing things.... I produce rap music and have a 12inch single out in 2 months(Just an indie release) and play guitar,forming a band heavy band,and taking it as far as we can. I do not honestly know when i will loose my virginity or get a g/f. I really dont care too much now. I dont gorp over women anymore,cuz i know iam not going to get or achieve anything from it. I mean,why should i respect them if there not gonna respect me?