sargon Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I don't see what the problem is with me hoping he will change his mind or become enthusiastic. I am not going to hop to and have children with this person willy nilly. Clearly it would have to be a process and I'd have to feel secure he wanted those things too. I am not a complete idiot. What you just posted here makes no sense based on what you've previously written on this thread. You broke up with him because he doesn't want marriage and kids. Now you suggest that if he changes his mind, you'll take him back, hoping that IN THE FUTURE he'll want to have kids and get married. If that's the case- that you are ok with waiting to see if he changes his mind down the line, then why did you break up with him? No need to answer the question- it's rhetorical. It's designed to make you realize that you are completely contradicting yourself, and hey, I get it, you're confused, you're second guessing your decision to break up with him but it doesn't change the fact that you want him to agree to get married and have kids because it's what YOU want. Link to comment
mhowe Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I don't see what the problem is with me hoping he will change his mind or become enthusiastic. I am not going to hop to and have children with this person willy nilly. Clearly it would have to be a process and I'd have to feel secure he wanted those things too. I am not a complete idiot. The problem with him changing is mind on some nebulous day in the future is you are 42. Link to comment
sargon Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Your partner took the risk with you. Well, not really. I moved in with her. If it didn't work out, I'd have to rebuild my life, find another place to live. She would have lost some time. Link to comment
Helpexpressme Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I don't see what the problem is with me hoping he will change his mind or become enthusiastic. I am not going to hop to and have children with this person willy nilly. Clearly it would have to be a process and I'd have to feel secure he wanted those things too. I am not a complete idiot. I don't think time is on your side. I think if he wants kids he would want to have them now. You are 42. Link to comment
Helpexpressme Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Also, I'm pretty sure you can have kids right up to 45/46 as a lot of woman get pregnant in their 40's by mistake. They have an "mistake" baby later in life, after not having protected sex. Happens alot. So for you, spend your time wisely trying to find another partner who wants kids/marriage. This can all happen in a year. Focus on that, not this pipe dream. Link to comment
mhowe Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Over age 40, they are considered "at risk" pregnancies and the odds of having a child with a handicap or learning disability increase greatly. Considered the proposed father has a medical condition, which may or may not be hereditary... And it doesn't look lime a walk in the park. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 I can't wait for the day he says he is firm in his decision and I post in this thread heartbroken, so that you can tell me "I told you so". It is going to be so great. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Also, I'm pretty sure you can have kids right up to 45/46 as a lot of woman get pregnant in their 40's by mistake. They have an "mistake" baby later in life, after not having protected sex. Happens alot. So for you, spend your time wisely trying to find another partner who wants kids/marriage. This can all happen in a year. Focus on that, not this pipe dream. I agree with you. I am also trying to find a partner who actively wants those things now. Link to comment
mhowe Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I thought you broke up with him already? No one needs to say anything. You just need to move on. Link to comment
Helpexpressme Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Nobody wants you to be heartbroken, you still have time to change your future. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 It doesn't feel much like help as much as criticism. Link to comment
sargon Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I can't wait for the day he says he is firm in his decision and I post in this thread heartbroken, so that you can tell me "I told you so". It is going to be so great. You're still hoping that somehow the shock of the breakup will cause him to waffle in his decision. You still don't get it. To expect him to change his mind, to begin doubt his decision- all because you dumped him- is selfish and completely irresponsible especially when it is about bringing a child into this world. Link to comment
mhowe Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It doesn't feel much like help as much as criticism. No one has critized your decision. We applaud it. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 You're still hoping that somehow the shock of the breakup will cause him to waffle in his decision. You still don't get it. To expect him to change his mind, to begin doubt his decision- all because you dumped him- is selfish and completely irresponsible especially when it is about bringing a child into this world. That sounds very self righteous to me. I do not expect it. I hope it. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 No one has critized your decision. We applaud it. I'm being criticized for hoping he will change his mind. Link to comment
mhowe Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 What is the difference between hope and expectations? Link to comment
mhowe Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'm being criticized for hoping he will change his mind. You're being warned that it is false hope. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 What is the difference between hope and expectations? Do you want me to give you the dictionary meanings? Very different things. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 You're being warned that it is false hope. Ok I take the warning thank you. I can't wait for you to post here again when I'm heartbroken all over again when the hope dies. Link to comment
Helpexpressme Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Kate we do feel empathy for your situation, life isn't fair we don't always get what we want. But no-one here is going to encourage you to stick around waiting and hoping that your ex will change his mind. Link to comment
sargon Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'm being criticized for hoping he will change his mind. That's right. You hope to manipulate his decisions and feelings to better suit your needs. That's a lot different then just saying "we're in two different places, we want two different things, good bye and good luck", with no hopes or expectations that by doing so he will suddenly agree to your terms. Link to comment
Shane Falco Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It doesn't feel much like help as much as criticism. Well, you aren't exactly doing yourself favors. I agree with sargon -- I don't get the point of breaking up with this man if you are just going to be sitting around waiting for him to change his mind anyway. If that's what you are going to do anyway, you should have just stayed with him. I mean, if you want something that he doesn't want, that's fine, but you are never going to find the person who wants what you want when you are sitting around waiting for this other guy to have some sort of epiphany that hasn't happened in eight years. You are basically sitting around waiting for a one-in-a-million chance. There is nothing wrong with you wanting a marriage and children. But what you are doing right now -- one foot in the water, one foot out -- does nothing but guarantee that you will never find what you are looking for. It's time for you to commit to this breakup, put both feet in the water, and move forward with a goal of finding what you want. But what you are doing right now isn't going to cut it. Your decision is fine, but you need to commit to it fully. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 It's a process. Your mind moves first, then you hope your heart catches up later. Why is that so hard to understand? I am not waiting around. Unfortunately hope is a very difficult thing to just turn off. I wish I could but I cannot. Link to comment
mhowe Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Ok I take the warning thank you. I can't wait for you to post here again when I'm heartbroken all over again when the hope dies. You are not the victim here. You chose to break up with him because he wouldn't give you what you want. Link to comment
kate111 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 A victim or a victor? I am both. Link to comment
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