Teen-FIxated Porn Lover: Is My Boyfriend a Pervert?

[PlayingAces]

However, trying to state opinions as facts, isn't something anyone is entitled too.

 

Fact: Teen porn is not child pornography.

Fact: Teen porn is not illegal.

 

TEEN PORN IS child pornography if the teen is under 18. And you, Optimistic, and Lonewing seem to think your opinions are facts, so why the double standard here?

[OptomisticGirl]

When asking for someone's advice, you are essentially soliciting their personal beliefs and opinions. Get real.

 

How very rude - not the first time you've been rude ecause someone doesn't bow down to your way of thinking.

 

There is a difference in giving advice filled with your beliefs and shoving that belief like its fact. Big difference.

[PlayingAces]

There is no need to be uncivil.

 

If you think that's uncivil, you're way off base, Lost. I always treat others as I would want to be treated here, I just think that several members are unfair and always want to turn everything into a debate, yet when they are questioned, they get all offended and entitled. Not really the best way to operate a forum meant to help the people posting.

[Seraphim]

It's not fancy words or fancy arguments. It's logic, facts, and reasoning.

 

Yes, you find teen porn disgusting. And anyone who watches you find disgusting. I have zero problem with your beliefs, no matter how much I disagree with them. You are entitled to that, and I would never want you to change your opinion.

 

However, trying to state opinions as facts, isn't something anyone is entitled too.

 

Fact: Teen porn is not child pornography.

Fact: Teen porn is not illegal.

In Canada you would be wrong. Here is what our criminal code says. "Section 163.1 of the Criminal Code was enacted in 1993. It prohibits the production, distribution and sale of “child pornography,” and also makes it an offence to possess such material. Maximum sentences of ten years for its production and distribution, and five years for simple possession, are prescribed. The section contains a definition of child pornography that includes:

visual representations of explicit sexual activity involving anyone under the age of 18 or depicted as being so;

other visual representations of a sexual nature of persons under the age of 18; and

written material or visual depictions that advocate or counsel illegal sexual activity involving persons under that age."

 

So no porn under 18 or even depicting under 18.

[OptomisticGirl]

TEEN PORN IS child pornography if the teen is under 18. And you, Optimistic, and Lonewing seem to think your opinions are facts, so why the double standard here?

 

It is if the child is under 18 - but who said anything about ALL teen porn being under 18? That's the fact you seem to ignore is that when people hear teen porn they think 'under 18' when in fact most of teen porn is 18,19 years olds - LEGAL adults. Of course their are under 18 porn and child porn - and that's wrong. But yor trying to lump the over 18 before 20 porn in with that same crowd and it's just not the same.

[Seraphim]

TEEN PORN IS child pornography if the teen is under 18. And you, Optimistic, and Lonewing seem to think your opinions are facts, so why the double standard here?

 

Yes, in Canada that is a crime for which you can get 10 years.

[PlayingAces]

How very rude - not the first time you've been rude ecause someone doesn't bow down to your way of thinking.

 

There is a difference in giving advice filled with your beliefs and shoving that belief like its fact. Big difference.

 

I don't want anyone to bow down to my way of thinking. I just wish we could have a debate in an open, friendly way. If you feel threatened by my posts, I do apologize, but I'm not going to simply go with the status quo when I have a valid two cents to throw in that may help the poster as well.

[Seraphim]

It is if the child is under 18 - but who said anything about ALL teen porn being under 18? That's the fact you seem to ignore is that when people hear teen porn they think 'under 18' when in fact most of teen porn is 18,19 years olds - LEGAL adults. Of course their are under 18 porn and child porn - and that's wrong. But yor trying to lump the over 18 before 20 porn in with that same crowd and it's just not the same.

 

In Canada you can not even DEPICT someone under 18 whether the actor is over that age or not.

[PlayingAces]

In Canada you can not even DEPICT someone under 18 whether the actor is over that age or not.

 

That's the way it should be. Props to Canada!

[OptomisticGirl]

I don't want anyone to bow down to my way of thinking. I just wish we could have a debate in an open, friendly way. If you feel threatened by my posts, I do apologize, but I'm not going to simply go with the status quo when I have a valid two cents to throw in that may help the poster as well.

 

Last I checked we were having a debate in an open friendly way. I don't feel threatened by your posts (although when someone is against your view you can come accross as rude in your replies) nor do I expect my opinion to be fact - however the against teen porn side has yet to realize the for is not advocating under 18 porn, but that there is LEgAL teen porn because 18,19 can still be files under the word 'teen'.

[PlayingAces]

Last I checked we were having a debate in an open friendly way. I don't feel threatened by your posts (although when someone is against your view you can come accross as rude in your replies) nor do I expect my opinion to be fact - however the against teen porn side has yet to realize the for is not advocating under 18 porn, but that there is LEgAL teen porn because 18,19 can still be files under the word 'teen'.

 

I do realize that, and I think Victoria does, too. Correct me if I'm wrong, Victoria ... you're totally missing what we're trying to say, and that's unfortunate, because it's a very valid point.

[OptomisticGirl]

In Canada you can not even DEPICT someone under 18 whether the actor is over that age or not.

 

Well that's Canada - the fact is simply because some one wears a school girl outfit doesn't mean it's being depicted as under 18 - it's just beig depicted as under 20.

[LostInMyThoughts]

TEEN PORN IS child pornography if the teen is under 18. And you, Optimistic, and Lonewing seem to think your opinions are facts, so why the double standard here?

 

No.

 

"Teen porn" is a specific type of porn, where the girls are either 18-19, or older and either naturally look younger, or are altered via post processing.

 

"Child pornography" is porn that involves anyone who is under the age of 18. Yes they may be teenagers, but that is irrelevant.

 

If you search for "Teen porn" or you visit "teen porn" you are viewing the former, which is not illegal.

 

The double standard is because you and I both have the same facts, but I'm solely looking at the facts to render my opinion. Others are using the facts, then filling in the gaps with information that is irrelevant and worse--wrong, and rendering an opinion.

[OptomisticGirl]

I do realize that, and I think Victoria does, too. Correct me if I'm wrong, Victoria ... you're totally missing what we're trying to say, and that's unfortunate, because it's a very valid point.

 

I have yet to see either one of you make that distinction, just as you both seem to think because we are for teen porn means we are advocating under 18.

[PlayingAces]

Please do yourself a favor and reread the sentence that you quoted me on. IF the teen is under 18. There's no way to aruge that, Lost. It's a fact.

[PlayingAces]

I have yet to see either one of you make that distinction, just as you both seem to think because we are for teen porn means we are advocating under 18.

 

Never said nor implied that, Optimistic. I have no idea how you came to that conclusion, but this is so way off topic now ... I'm done. I hope this poster gains resolution and I wish her and her unborn child the best.

[Seraphim]

Well that's Canada - the fact is simply because some one wears a school girl outfit doesn't mean it's being depicted as under 18 - it's just beig depicted as under 20.

 

The law is the law though. Usually someone over 18 is not wearing the school girl uniform. These laws are enacted to protect teens and kids. Here even "pretending" to be under 18 is illegal porn and you will go to jail for possessing it whether the actor is 18 or not and no matter your belief that it is ok.

[OptomisticGirl]

Please do yourself a favor and reread the sentence that you quoted me on. IF the teen is under 18. There's no way to aruge that, Lost. It's a fact.

 

It's a fact that unless you go for under 18 the teen porn you watch is legal and not the other.

[LostInMyThoughts]

Please do yourself a favor and reread the sentence that you quoted me on. IF the teen is under 18. There's no way to aruge that, Lost. It's a fact.

 

If the Teen is under 18, it's child pornography.

[Seraphim]

I have yet to see either one of you make that distinction, just as you both seem to think because we are for teen porn means we are advocating under 18.

No one said that OG, but depicting under 18 is just gross.

[OptomisticGirl]

The law is the law though. Usually someone over 18 is not wearing the school girl uniform. These laws are enacted to protect teens and kids. Here even "pretending" to be under 18 is illegal porn and you will go to jail for possessing it whether the actor is 18 or not and no matter your belief that it is ok.

 

Udually is the key word. Adult women dress in school girl outfits in the bedroom.

[OptomisticGirl]

No one said that OG, but depicting under 18 is just gross.

 

The problem with that is a lot of women - over 25 - have what we would classify as 'depicting under 18' bodies. No hips, no boobs, thin, no pubic hair - but under 18 is not the only type f woman who looks like this.

[Seraphim]

Udually is the key word. Adult women dress in school girl outfits in the bedroom.

 

One can only go by letter of the law and it also says DEPICTS someone under 18. So it up to the law on what that entails. If means the school girly outfit then it is illegal.

[Seraphim]

The problem with that is a lot of women - over 25 - have what we would classify as 'depicting under 18' bodies. No hips, no boobs, thin, no pubic hair - but under 18 is not the only type f woman who looks like this.

 

They mean you are being obvious at making it look like they should be under 18.

[LostInMyThoughts]

The law is the law though. Usually someone over 18 is not wearing the school girl uniform. These laws are enacted to protect teens and kids. Here even "pretending" to be under 18 is illegal porn and you will go to jail for possessing it whether the actor is 18 or not and no matter your belief that it is ok.

 

I don't think anyone here is okay with porn that simulates sex between someone who is of age and someone who is underage, even if the underage girl is legal. I think that is pretty creepy too, but we don't know what type of teen porn this guy was looking at, and jumping to conclusions isn't going to help the situation.