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To the OP: Wow great post. You've just articulated what I have been feeling for a long time. The bit about seeing so many failed relationships really brings to mind the theme song from the Bourne series "Extreme ways". There's a line that goes, "I've been to so many places, seen so many faces, so many heartaches, so many dirty things."

 

Although I'm not completely entitled to say this things would be a lot better if men would quit whining and work and women quit * * * * * ing and provide emotional support. I think society back in the 1950s was a lot better for the family. I guess whatever gains we have made in racism and bigotry and been negated by the breakdown of traditional gender roles.[/QUOTE]

 

I can't agree with you more.

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so does this mean if i fell head over heals for you.. you wouldnt take advantage of me?

 

There is an old saying..

 

The girl I want to marry is a girl that will let me treat her like a queen and NOT take advantage of that..

 

I wonder if there are really any women out there..

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so does this mean if i fell head over heals for you.. you wouldnt take advantage of me?

 

There is an old saying..

 

The girl I want to marry is a girl that will let me treat her like a queen and NOT take advantage of that..

 

I wonder if there are really any women out there..

 

lol I would never take advantage of anything/anybody. Girls taking advantage of you doesn't really relate to gender equality--it's just something that unfortunately occurs in some relationships (i.e. lying, cheating, losing interest).

 

There are women out there who appreciate a good man. I don't know of a woman who doesn't. The problem with you is, you've either come accross the wrong women, and if they've been right, it's been at the wrong time, & you know what I mean.

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so does this mean if i fell head over heals for you.. you wouldnt take advantage of me?

 

There is an old saying..

 

The girl I want to marry is a girl that will let me treat her like a queen and NOT take advantage of that..

 

I wonder if there are really any women out there..

 

You clearly haven't met the right girl then.

A girl who takes advatnage of her partner's feelings is not in a relationship for the right reasons.

 

I've seen it happen, but mainly because the feelings weren't mutual. To me, mutual and true love is respectful. You have to respect your partner, walking all over them and taking them for a ride and taking advantage of them..isn't love. So if that's happening, I can probably garuntee that the relationship isn't that significant and based on an entirely different 'thought' process.

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I completely agree with this. I have seen many of my friends getting ruined because of this so called Equality thing. I am all for Equal Rights but I always notice that it is only about Equal Rights and not about Equal Responsibilities.

 

One of my good friends is a Feminist. She is a good girl but she always has troubles with relationships. She seems to treat her girlfriends in a very loving and kind manner but is very intolerant when it comes to guy friends. Even for the slightest mistakes she pounces on them. She keeps saying "I will never ever let a man do this to me" blah blah... She is forgiving of her girlfriends but totally opposite with men. She kicks her guy friends and boyfriends... one time one of her boyfriends happened to slightly push her because he could not take her verbal abuse... and that was it.. she called the cops and put him in prison for a week. His whole career is ruined now... I know for sure that her Feminist upbringing is wrecking her relationships... But I do not know how to tell this to her

 

In my country the man goes to work and the woman stays at home and takes care of the children. That's how things were when I grew up. Now its all changed. Women in my country have found new freedom and they are abusing it... My friend got married recently and is in hell each and every day now. His wife does what she wants and if he says it has to be a joint decision she asks him to mind his own business... She also broke his nose and sent him to the hospital... Right now she is not giving him sex.. for the past 4 months..

 

Sigh... I will think hundred times before I get married.

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Oh wow. Now that's the true definition of a " * * * * * " (no offense ladies) lol

 

Sigh...I don't think 100 times is enough

 

yea.. i once told my friend on her face "Women want Equal Rights but not Equal Responsibilities" and she was shocked and did not know what to say. she says she is a Feminist but she takes advantage of men whenever she can. a group of friends happened to go to the Casinos and one guy asked this girl "how do you usually pay for the different games in the casinos?" and she said "oh, i usually get the dudes to pay for me"

 

She is a Feminist and she is for Equal Rights. Yea right

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yea.. i once told my friend on her face "Women want Equal Rights but not Equal Responsibilities" and she was shocked and did not know what to say. she says she is a Feminist but she takes advantage of men whenever she can. a group of friends happened to go to the Casinos and one guy asked this girl "how do you usually pay for the different games in the casinos?" and she said "oh, i usually get the dudes to pay for me"

 

She is a Feminist and she is for Equal Rights. Yea right

 

There's a huge difference between a Feminist & a Female Chauvinist.

 

I'm a feminist. I believe in women's rights & equal freedom, but I don't express nor feel any hatred toward men.

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There's a huge difference between a Feminist & a Female Chauvinist.

 

I'm a feminist. I believe in women's rights & equal freedom, but I don't express nor feel any hatred toward men.

 

Right.. but somehow though I have seen many Feminists to harbor some hate towards men.

 

Honest question for you -> Would you expect a guy to pay for all your expenses? Like how my friend said "I make the dudes pay for me".

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Right.. but somehow though I have seen many Feminists to harbor some hate towards men.

 

Honest question for you -> Would you expect a guy to pay for all your expenses? Like how my friend said "I make the dudes pay for me".

 

Hell no. I'm my own person, & there's no reason why any guy should have to pay anything of mine.

 

Ya, I believe the guy should mostly pay when you're going out (if you're together) n all that routine stuff, but nothing more than that. I pay my bills, I buy my shi*, I don't need your money lol

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Hell no. I'm my own person, & there's no reason why any guy should have to pay anything of mine.

 

Ya, I believe the guy should mostly pay when you're going out (if you're together) n all that routine stuff, but nothing more than that. I pay my bills, I buy my shi*, I don't need your money lol

 

the girl that broke my friend's nose... guess what? he bought a home before marriage and is paying the mortgage... now that he is married and she living with him is it not fair for her to share the mortgage? she keeps telling him "i will spend as much money as i want and you do not have any right to ask" and yet at the same time she is refusing to share even a tiny portion of the mortgage.

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the girl that broke my friend's nose... guess what? he bought a home before marriage and is paying the mortgage... now that he is married and she living with him is it not fair for her to share the mortgage? she keeps telling him "i will spend as much money as i want and you do not have any right to ask" and yet at the same time she is refusing to share even a tiny portion of the mortgage.

 

Are they still married? Or they're just living together?

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Are they still married? Or they're just living together?

 

they got married last November... she keeps threatening him that she will walk out of the house.. she has also informed her parents that she wants a divorce... they stopped sleeping together for the past 4 months...

 

divorce is a major stigma in our culture and my friend is wondering what to do.. he is trying hard to make it work but she is repeatedly walking all over him.

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they got married last November... she keeps threatening him that she will walk out of the house.. she has also informed her parents that she wants a divorce... they stopped sleeping together for the past 4 months...

 

divorce is a major stigma in our culture and my friend is wondering what to do.. he is trying hard to make it work but she is repeatedly walking all over him.

 

If they're not getting along, & she's not willing to work with him, I'd suggest he walks out asap before there's any kids involved. Things are just gonna get harder. People don't suddenly change.

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If they're not getting along, & she's not willing to work with him, I'd suggest he walks out asap before there's any kids involved. Things are just gonna get harder. People don't suddenly change.

 

right.. but it is so hard for me to tell this to him.... but i am gonna do it anyway this guy is in a lot of pain...

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There's a huge difference between a Feminist & a Female Chauvinist.

 

I'm a feminist. I believe in women's rights & equal freedom, but I don't express nor feel any hatred toward men.

 

Completely agree - I am not a feminist but don't agree with defining feminists as man-haters.

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