shyguy1 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I wouldn't call it attitude. I'm simply defending guys who are rejected because of the size of their johnsons. As for me.. I'm a lost cause and so it's irrelevant. If no woman's given me a chance by now, they never will. Doesn't mean I won't stick up for other guys and something they can't control. The best I personally can hope for, is to become rich.. that's the only way I'll ever interest anyone and even in that case I would automatically assume the woman was only after my money (whether she really was or not) and I would then break things off with her... and if it turned out she wasn't only after my money?!? Well I would still take at least some pride in breaking her heart, you know how my heart's been broken by noone giving me a chance for going on 30 years. I got side tracked there... but to get back to point for a second... Don't kid yourself.... most girls would take great offense if a guy were to call them loose and most would think that would be an unfair reason to break things off with them, how is the penis issue any different? Link to comment
waveseer Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 A woman wouldn't know not to give the man the time of day based on the size of his penis because he doesn't wear it on the OUTSIDE of his clothing. You have neatly backed yourself into a corner with your thoughts on your future relationships. Change them or accept them, your choice. What you thought about yourself yesterday does not have to be what you think about yourself tomorrow. Any man who doesn't know how to teach his woman to do her "special exercises" is working too hard to find the right sized woman. lol Link to comment
shyguy1 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Fair enough on the first point... although there have been women who have broken things off after physically seeing a man's penis.. and that's not right. Get to know the person.... I sometimes think that I have backed myself into a corner, although I don't have the slightest clue how to get out of it. Sure I could try therapy and/or medication and while I'll readily admit to being skeptical about both options... even if they were to work.. I sometimes feel that time's passed me by, maybe not in terms of finding happiness.. but in terms of finding love and someone to call my own. Sure it hurts.... I really want to be a parent someday and yes it flat out sucks not being loved/having that special someone to share your life with and to a lesser extent hearing how wonderful making love can be and knowing it will never happen... but facts are facts. The percentage of women who would give a nearly 30 year old virgin a chance is very very low and sure I could lie about the virginity or not mention it at all, but that's not only unfair to the woman.. but unfair to myself, as it would place unrealistic expectations on myself. I would have to search.. and search... and search.. and get rejected again and again and again and again to find a woman willing to give me and my virginity a chance.. at least a non religious woman and being Atheist religious women are out by default and quite honestly I don't have the self esteem to get rejected enough to find that 1 in 1000 women willing to overlook my virgin status. That's not even taking into account the fact that the mere thought of sex at this point scares the heck out of me... I'm talking to the point of panic attacks. Time's indeed passed me by. A woman wouldn't know not to give the man the time of day based on the size of his penis because he doesn't wear it on the OUTSIDE of his clothing. You have neatly backed yourself into a corner with your thoughts on your future relationships. Change them or accept them, your choice. What you thought about yourself yesterday does not have to be what you think about yourself tomorrow. Any man who doesn't know how to teach his woman to do her "special exercises" is working too hard to find the right sized woman. lol Link to comment
waveseer Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 When the pain of not being who you want to be becomes worse than the fear of getting professional help you will take full responsibility for your healing process and you will succeed. Link to comment
shyguy1 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I hope your right... and I hope I'm wrong and severely underestimating the percentage of women that would give me a chance... social awkwardness... virginity and all When the pain of not being who you want to be becomes worse than the fear of getting professional help you will take full responsibility for your healing process and you will succeed. Link to comment
waveseer Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I hope your right... and I hope I'm wrong and severely underestimating the percentage of women that would give me a chance... social awkwardness... virginity and all Wouldn't it be incredibly ironic if you went into therapy and a year from now met a woman your age who was also a virgin due to shyness? Link to comment
brandnew1 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I hope your right... and I hope I'm wrong and severely underestimating the percentage of women that would give me a chance... social awkwardness... virginity and all To be completely honest with you, I get somewhat of a thrill out of being with a boy that isn't very experienced. I think it's a matter of willingness to learn. I've been with 3 men: The first one, I was his second. The second one, I was his 13th and this most recent one, I am his 5th (however, I don't know if I entirely believe him). I will tell you that I have been having great sex with this most recent guy because he is very inexperienced. He may say he's been with 5 women but that may have been one time each... It's fun to teach him and learn together. The thing that really attracts me to him is his willingness to learn and his eagerness. I think you don't need to be entirely upfront about your virginity (don't hide it) but if it gets to the point where you're about to get intimate you could reveal. In fact, I think lots of women (more than you think) would enjoy teaching you and "molding" you... YOU just need the confidence in yourself to get to that point and the humility to understand that it's not that big of a deal. The more pressure you put on yourself the more difficult it is to just relax and go with the flow. Come out of your shell a little. After all, if anyone thinks it's weird, WHO CARES?! Link to comment
george237 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I don't think there is anything wrong with a woman not dating a man because of his size. There are plenty of men that immediately write off women due to breast size. Link to comment
thistime Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 my first husband had a 3" penis...not kidding! honestly, I was young and I thought sex wasnt as important as connecting as people, but the sex was NOT satisfying. My second husband was 'average"...about 5-6" and sex was good. He was just kind of a jerk...but the current BF is very well endowed, and the sex is great. However, I do agree that if a man really knows what he is doing in bed, you can still be very satisfied, and over time, if you have a connection to him, the sex will be more emotional then physical. You said you saw that he was smaller then normal...was he erect? There can be ALOT of difference in size between fully erect, and normally flacid (guys are you with me?) The main question is ...is he good in bed? Link to comment
george237 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I doubt it was 3" that is about the size of a pinkie finger. Link to comment
thistime Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I doubt it was 3" that is about the size of a pinkie finger. EXACTLY! i am Not kidding. Link to comment
george237 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Oh my. At least you can say you deep throated a guy, I'm so messed up. I have never heard of anyone being that small but on the other hand men don't normally talk about their penis size. Well still I think you should have been able to say hey this guy has a millimeter peter and I am not into that, I think it's only fair but just not for your ex. Link to comment
thistime Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 If you had a 3" penis, would you tell your friends??? LOL I was 19, and had only been with 3 other men before him, and I really dint know much. He was my husband...I just thought maybe sex wasnt suppossed to matter that much. He was what he was. Link to comment
thistime Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I have had stadium hot dogs bigger then that guy, let me tell ya. Link to comment
liquer Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I have had stadium hot dogs bigger then that guy, let me tell ya. Sounds like he was hung like an acorn. Link to comment
liquer Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I have had stadium hot dogs bigger then that guy, let me tell ya. So he was hung like a rosebud, doesnt make him a bad person now does it? Link to comment
Carl5000 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 If you had a 3" penis, would you tell your friends??? LOL I was 19, and had only been with 3 other men before him, and I really dint know much. He was my husband...I just thought maybe sex wasnt suppossed to matter that much. He was what he was. yea, that exactly why it matters alot. From a male perspective if your small(count me in) not only are u sexually useless. I think that the reputation side of it is the hardest aspect. How are small men perceived? as laughing stocks, inadquate, jokes and miscarriages of men. Nothing carries a bigger stigma than a man with a small penis. Maybe murders, rapists and wife beaters k now i'm exaggerating a bit. But man, is it bad having a tinyone. Do i get bullied over being ugly in highschool, slighly. How about do i get bullied for being tiny. You bet i did, it was off the chart and totally excessive..laughter, pointing, s * * * * * * ing, nicknames, jokes. No surprise that men are obsessed with it. If you look at the work of decent psychologists dewry, william james, freud they'd said we have two inate drives for sex and for the feeling of importance. Well, if ur small ur at a disadvantages when it comes to sex and how about the feelign of importance? which might be are u being valued by the culture errrr is laughing at someone a sign taht their of importance as people. Size doesn't matter ahh the most absurd statement ever. Size is everything -_- unless ur well endowed and don't reflect on it. Cos u just know ur the good and don't have to question urself. I don't think its shallow just a bit absurd. That something that hangs between ur legs is valued so highly in society. Edit; i think women are valued, judged on a much boarder scale and have answers to their insecuties. If their overweight they can diet. If their breasts are causing them alot of psychological pain and hurt because of others judgement..they can have surgery. No options for the small guy? He will just have to deal with until his final days -_- Plus do we see threads by men saying "omg, my girlfriends breasts are so small,..please help me grrrr dealbreaker. Yes, breast size is of some value but not that much. Link to comment
thistime Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 dont misunderstand me...he and i had sex before we got married, and i didnt really think anything of his size. And NO...his size didnt make him a bad person...him getting another woman preganant while we were still married did...I didnt say anything to him to belittle him while we were together. And, i dont base my choice on whom to date or not on penis size. My second husband was about 6", and I dated a guy who was small statured, and around 5", but not much girth, but he was cocky and confident, and sexy! I never complained about his performance. I just happen to be very lucky with the BF...but, i dont only like his because of his size...thats just a bonus. I didnt mean to offend anyone,and just like the fact that I am short, there isnt really anything you can do about it. get really really good at oral? IDK... Link to comment
NowandZen Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Like everything else, it doesn't matter, until it does. Link to comment
thistime Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 OK, so guys...what do YOU think constitutes "small". I'll bet your idea of small, and what most woman think is "small' are different.... Link to comment
NowandZen Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 OK, so guys...what do YOU think constitutes "small". I'll bet your idea of small, and what most woman think is "small' are different.... I guess most men think of themselves as a least "average". I have no idea what mine is, never measured. All I can say is it works. There's an old joke: "Why are women so bad at math? (Imagine two fingers about 3 inches apart) "Because all their life they've been told this is six inches" I read the average is about 5.5". I don't know if average is the best measure of central tendency. I assume the guys in pornos are "above average" Link to comment
thistime Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I guess most men think of themselves as a least "average". I have no idea what mine is, never measured. All I can say is it works. There's an old joke: "Why are women so bad at math? (Imagine two fingers about 3 inches apart) "Because all their life they've been told this is six inches" I read the average is about 5.5". I don't know if average is the best measure of central tendency. I assume the guys in pornos are "above average" i think thats why guys have a different idea of "average'. Yes I would say men in porn are above average....WAY above average. Thats why they are in porn. Ok here is MY opinion...dont draw the firing squad on me...It's based on what I have expirienced. (erect) 3-4" I consider small. 5-7" average, and 8" or 9", above average. Over 9" ...well, I hope you look good on film, cuz you probably should be. But again, just my opinion.... Link to comment
NowandZen Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 i think thats why guys have a different idea of "average'. Yes I would say men in porn are above average....WAY above average. Thats why they are in porn. Ok here is MY opinion...dont draw the firing squad on me...It's based on what I have expirienced. (erect) 3-4" I consider small. 5-7" average, and 8" or 9", above average. Over 9" ...well, I hope you look good on film, cuz you probably should be. But again, just my opinion.... And lots of men are "growers" not "showers" I have seen some penises, but not many erect, so I couldn't even say what's average based on my experience. Link to comment
thistime Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Yes, I have also become very aware that in their flacid state, penises can be very small...but change considerably when erect. anyone remember that episode of Seinfeld where George went swimming and had "shrinkage?" Link to comment
george237 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 True but some women have very loose hairy axe wounds and they get looked at negatively for that reason. What guy wants to have sex with someone when it feels like your throwing a hot dog down a hallway? Link to comment
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