Sluggo

Thanks Scout! I'm more concerned about my pup than the girl!! I just found out the 17 year old will be freer than believed. He'll have to stay at dads and make sure they don't shoot the dog.. 19 year old son has a place and a deposit gets the dog in there. So it's just going to be an incponvenience and expense. But the dog grew up the boys. he needs them in his last days. Typical of how things have been going. I end up first and only option. I almost decided to stay with him in the desert...and would but couldn't let her know or she'd quit trying I fear. Oh well we really need a break! Thanks, I think it may work after all and so quickly..after like 5 days of struggles.. S

Oh I the love the dog. He's an older shepherd. bad rear legs so he can't walk too far. Just likes to be around. Small trips take their toll. I actually take the passanger seat out of my truck and make him a bed when ever I take him anywhere. Blast the ac in his face and he's ok..for the most part. Her deal is she's working for a friend and the friend bought a plane ticket,I never fly so can you change the date? If she had a couple more days she might have more luck or make it work some how. i've called everyone I know and no dice... Sluggo

Hi, Most of my story is elsewhere and all over the map. GF 400 miles apart won't see each other for a month more and struggling. I'm staying in what is basically her house she bought on almost a whim and hasn't been able to join me. I spend most of the time here as her family dog, now pretty much my dog doesn't travel too well. We've decied to take a break and travel separately as I don't like here and need to get out. She has a job cross country and is leaving Sunday for this. I had plans to se the Sierras and friends. I was taking the dog out to her as she made arrangments. Now she is calling me and saying she can't find a place and her ex who said he will take him says he''l put the dog down if too much trouble. Dogs old but in decent health and a good guy. I can find no other home and now it appears I'm stuck. I'll tell you I'm in the desert and it will be 110° any day. I'm going nuts... I want to prove myself to her but when do I became a sucker as she takes off and her kids etc. don't pitch in with this. We've gotten to the point where we need to separate for a time and me dragging a dog around won't work. It's like I stay unhappy, or the dog dies....or she comes through which isn't happening so far. I'm willing to make a sacrifice in our predicament but she's not budging on other issues... Fine line between sucker and helper.. Please advise, Sluggo BTW Kennals are out and the dog being alone is also not a choice. he has minor health problems and needs a family member with him..

yes ALL our problems stem from trying to make semi commitments. I'm sure of this..Now I just gotta figure how to present it. S

Hi, Here's the deal My girl and I are under starin and in danger of losing each other. She's always been against marriage and I've let her have her way. Now after 7 years were 46 years old and on the verge of breaking up. We need a comitment and are getting hung up on details. It has finally occurred to me that marriage is the easy way out the only solution. No other way can express my love. I'm sure of it and not afraid of rejection. believe it or not I have no one to turn to who has had a good marriage. That's why I've avoided it. I have no idea how to do it and circumstances mean I have to do it in 2 days or wait for a month or longer and problems may close the door. I'm first trying to get her to accpept the idea I want to marry her. IF she can get past that..I'll propose. But that soundds like I'm not sincere... Or do you just come right out and propose? This I'm sure will freak her out. She doesn't realize it's what she wants. I think she needs time to think about what it is before she considers it seriously. My problem is to express my sincerity without pressure, give her time to consider. Let the idea of it sink in...Or does she really want me to come right out..??? Confused in love and on the verge of.. Sluggo

Hi 1st she was young and sorta kicked out of the house. 2nd pregnant and talked into it. They said for 12 years and that's when we met. Our realtionship has been understood. We've lived together but kept separate rooms. I just found out her kids think we are just best friends?! Which was surprizing as we never consciously hid but they are part time for the most part. As all this arose i insisted if we work through it she tell themthe nature of our relationship. Just tell them we fell in love past doesn't have to be brought up if they don't ask..She actually asked the youngest about her "dating" and he said NO! But he's 17 so ..grow up.. But we have always agreed upon an exclusive realtionship with each other. That is why surprised and hurt by her announcment I do believe her in that she is just getting weak and may either want a change or more of a commitment...could go either way..I fear...as the times got weird... As of now if she proceeds I'll leave her for good. She'd convinced I'll stay.I have no idea where she got that from... Sluggo

It's a JOKE!!! Like waddya s'possed ta do? Not specifically directed towards you.....ok.. ....sigh.... S

I finally brought it up, mentioned I could see us married, and wasn't met with the same total negativity so I'm going back to see her this week and do so formally. It popped out before I could think about it so in retrospect I'd have preferred to spring it upon her but... But with bill bs'ing about a love affair..it makes the responsibility of marriage look less appealling..or could in the right space..and like I said times are hard for us with bills (money and William!) logistics, work, living, spaces, tons of stuff hat you don't want to here. But as I said the recent development of bill we have never had a serious argument or problem. Not one! Sluggo

A bit of levity in an otherwise hard time for me. Also since morals have sorta been tossed out the window it's like a free-for-all out there. We've all been in this situation what do you do? Man Rules..!

OK my girls and I are having a rough time due to many factors, none major and all coming to a close. In the coming months we will both be free of kids and respopnsibilities which are over coming us. She's going through a lot having to live with one of her sons etc... So this guy is inviting her over and they have a common interest..she's expressing that she's feeling something towards him but has yet to act. She's confused. I've done all I can lately but it's a delicate time. Recently we have not been communicating as I feel he is providing advice that is good for him not her and certainly not me. By him being there she doesn't have to look at us and work through anything with me. She may be deluded into thinking this will last but I know how this guy operates, he's a real talker. He once made a lewd suggestion about Mary in front of his wife (he just got divorced). Mary didn't notice but I did. i was secure at the time and just filed it away. I'm prepared to propose marriage in the coming year as things mellow out. We're so perfect together, but as I said things have gotten in the way. Now.. He's allowed her an outlet for her fears and concerns. He has provided an outlet which should be directed towards me. This is dangerous. I'm quite certain he's mr right now, but I have no intention of allowing an affair to progress and nothing change on my end. Right now it's all on the table for her to decide. She will lose me forever if she consciuously proceeds. I have let go and now am concerned she will make a mistake that will hurt her...I really love her and could handle a break but this won't be good for her I know.. Sluggo

OK I'll try again. Miller Beer tv commercial Unwritten Man Rules. Roundtable of "men" discussing and comically addressing issues that can rise up, like your best friend breaking with a girl. What't the protocal? Answers are like 2 Saturday, a new hairdo, "she breaks up with him she breaks up with you forever!" then a guys asks what if she'd real hot and they all stop to think and come up with "6 months" and they got an old guy writting the rull in the big book hahaha very funny! It's online link removed

Thanks everyone.. Gee I guess I still can't believe someone would do that. What kind of man does that? I know it's common but I coluld never interfere. I had one chance and it took all I had to resist, t'was with mary I alluded to how we got together, we were class mates and several outings got us close. I didn't know she was married and we kinda found each other. fater I knew it was hard. We gently kissed once and I flipped out! I insisted she back off and don't look for an easy way out. Save her family and marriage. It was very hard for me as I knew I loved her. We saw each other daily due to school so the tmptations was constant. I resisted almost a year! And am proud of that. Her husband threw her out and I let her move in as she was homeless. I made her go back but he was through wouldn't let her back. I gave her my room and slept in the living room and never once touched her. But fell in love with her. We only made love after the divorce was filed.She was long gone and he was involved with another womam already. See I'm no saint but it's a far cry from at the same time.. I can at least sleep at night knowing I didn't contribute to the demise. No we're not married but...geez.. I've seen women who were involved with friends I've inquired a couple times..Not hard. It's like that Beer commercial about being a man discussing how to appraoch this very thing. 1st answer is"she's breaking up with your friend, she's breaking upo with you" But what if she's real hot?..ok 6 months! Funny but some truth. To just jump in and help yourself in a weak time..gee what do you do with a guy like that? or the girl...? Thanks and I'd love to hear more! Sluggo

Should I email this? "Bill It has come to my attention you and mary are spending a great deal of time together and growing closer. I'm sure your aware of me but don't know what she's shared with you. I invested everything to come out here for her. I dropped job and my own family concerns to be with her. Circumstances are keeping us apart and we are going through a very tough time. All relationships do. But often if another steps in it can ruin it for all concerned. I'm completely head over heels in love with M and want to spend the rest of my life with her. This is the first major test we've had and so far your being there at a time of weakness isn't helping. I know deep down you'd never do anything to hurt me or her but I must warn you we are on the verge of losing everything if you persist. I fear your interference on any level intentional or not will destroy all we have worked towards. Are you comfortable knowing you are contributing to ruining another relationship? Are you confident enough in what you understand at this very moment is a true test of love and devotion? Are you prepared to give 7-10-50 years towards M? Can you come through on all levels or are the attractions a bit less all encompassing? We have been together through thick and thin. 7 years ago she had a tough time with her husband and we got close. I knew I couldn't interfere and forced her to do all in her power to save her marriage and family. I resisted selfish self gratification to make sure she had a chance. Soon afterwards she was thrown out and came to me in tears alone and homeless and I took her. We've been together ever since.. I don't want to lose mary due to poor timing and it seems like at any moment it will be over for us and directly related to you. Yes it takes the 2 of you but could you be reading more into this? Bob she is the one true love of my life. I want you to please think of this as thing progress with each other and hopefully you can realize what your doing. I know deep down we are meant for each other but the way things are I fear any interference will destroy it all. Please don't let this get out of hand." Opinions? Sluggo

Wow! Not many replies.. here's one I love! When my girl is going down on me she will stimulate the area just below testicles, technicaly the "bulb of the penis" This is that part of the penis that you can feel belew the testicles. From there back to the anus is quite sensitive to tickling. I'm 7" and she will swallow all of me and do this and my goodness! In my case I like the string of pearls dangling down there as she really goes to work on my penis. Beads any kind of necklace when combined with other stimulation drives me right over edge. I've heard of inserting beads...and quickly removing them at climax...Kinda scary. Don't really want to be inserting objects up there in my case. Somtimes she'll massage my anus as well...very naughty! But not every guy likes that I bet and I don't always. Of course the boldest move is to stimulate the prostate. This of course requires a digital penatration. Gotta go a couple inches in...It takes some effort on both parts. My girl has long finger nails and the only attempts were uncomfrtable. but luckily she gets me off everytime. Careful on the net. My experience has been most sex sites are so...over the top nasty. Lot's of bad stuff going on from rape to lord knows..Not good for the soul. Look for a trusted space and don't believe everything you see and read. Be nice it'll be fun! Sluggo

Hi, I decided against this approach. Thanks for setting me straight into just coming from my heart instead of trying to predetermine what she is feeling or make the words for her. Nice forum, good to write things out and no someone will respond. Sluggo