Advice on getting a girlfriend? Do I need one, should I look?

[musicman777]

Well here it goes. I'll try to keep it simple. I'm a guy, a few weeks from turning 25 years old now. I kind of feeling like I'm having a "quarter life crisis" over my feelings love love/romantic relationships! I'm not sure who else to talk to in my life about this other than strangers on these forums.

As I said, I'm 25. I have many great things going for me. About 2-3 semesters away from finishing college with honors. I have a pretty good career working from home remotely. I have a car, pay my bills, take care of my fitness/health as best as I can. I basically have everything in life except for one thing; a women! One part of my life I have to start coming to terms with it, I am kind of neglecting my social life, particularly in dating. I have friends and get out of the house once in a while, but I don't think about or put any efforts into finding a women. Some of my friends are even getting girlfriends now, ones I never thought would, some even had babies now. It's got me thinking about all this. I got to college over the internet so I never see anyone in person anymore. I spend hours away wasting my time playing stupid video games I think it might be time for me to start getting some kind of social life outside the virtual world. As I said, my job is even over the computer!

 

I wanted to ask some advice to others. Should I start "looking" for a girlfriend? Let me be honest, I DO want one, I had a very good relationship in the past and I felt it made me a better man at the time. I enjoy all the perks of having someone. Someone to talk to and rely on and have fun with. I'm not in a a rush, but I would like to potentially get married and have kids someday. I DON'T feel needy or dependent on one, I don't feel like having one is going to significantly improve my life in anyway, but it is something I feel I may be missing out on in life. Is it the right time for me to start doing this?

I don't know, I hear some people say you shouldn't "look" for a partner in life. But I'm not religious/spiritual, I don't believe planets align and make you meet people, I believe meeting people had to do with elementary statistics and probability. I (believe it or not) practice yoga on my own and someone told me to join a yoga school to meet women. But it just seems very creepy to do such a thing, even if I was there to practice yoga legitimately I'm still going to have an ulterior motive! I don't know. Is this a bad idea? Should I try some other type of activity to meet girls or do the yoga? Or should I just carry on with my life and not worry about any of this? I'm moderately worried about it, I'm not going to lie.

 

Where things are, I don't get out of the house very much at all. I think my chances are extremely LOW of me ever randomly meeting someone somewhere. Should I start looking or what? I tried online dating several years ago, I think it's a gimmick. I'm just turning 25 now, I know I'm not that old yet or anything, but I don't want to waste my 20's away behind a computer screen and I don't really want to have any regrets about this topic looking back. I also don't want to get into my early/mid 30's and be alone and kick myself for not trying in my 20's, if it even comes to that. Just giving this some food for thought. Part of me doesn't give two flying fraks about meeting or dealing with women, but another part of me is starting to think about it. Any advice is appreciated.

[Andrina]

People join co-ed sports teams and get into hobbies and do all sorts of things to meet like-minded people for companionship all the time. There's nothing wrong with that. There are people who go to meetups (link removed) specifically to join others in hiking, bicycling, kayaking, book clubs, bowling, etc. Some are open to everyone. Some are specifically for singles of a particular age group. Join one of those and know that everyone is there for the same purpose. Don't date just because everyone else is doing it. But if you think you'll enjoy spending time with a potential girlfriend, go for it. When you date, you will see if you're compatible in all the major ways. If you're not, and she possesses deal breakers, it's time to move on because she's not the one. Just have a goal of enjoying each other's company. In time, over a period of several years if it gets that far, you'll see if the relationship has long term potential. Good luck and have fun!

[musicman777]

Andrina, thank you for your response. You are not the only one that has recommended the link removed website. I have checked it out in the past but tonight I actually signed up. In terms of that website, beyond dating, I am interested in meeting people in general on there. There are some different entrepreneur/investor boards on there as well as astronomy groups which is also one of my hobbies.

 

Upon looking I noticed several types of group to join for singles as well. You are correct, there are ones specifically for dating and singles that sound like very nice ways to meet someone. I like the sound of this because it's straight to the point, it's like-minded people who are there specifically for dating. There is a local "singles pizza night" thing where you meet up with other singles to dance and eat. There was also one where it's like a game, they give you a key or something and another girl a lock and you have to find which girl has the lock to your key or something. Sounds kind of fun/interesting, assuming I wouldn't get matched up with a 60 year old grandma in something like that! They should (or maybe they do) restrict some of those to certain age groups, that would be my only quark with it.

 

This is something my mother would approve of. not that I need her permission to date or something, but I was talking to her about this a little. She met my dad at a Polish rec center place. He wasn't even Polish decent but went there and they met. This website features that kind of stuff, activities to do locally to meet people. I will give it a shot, but maybe when the weather warms up a bit because it is frigid where I live right now!

[SometimesShy]

I would recommend joining groups that you are interested in and not because you want to find a date. If you haven't had much experience interacting with women that you don't know, then you should focus on just enjoying yourself and having fun conversations with other people in the group. If there's potential to date somebody within the group, it will likely happen all by itself, and if not then at least you got out and had some fun.

[musicman777]

SometimesShy, I hear you. To be honest, I'm having second thoughts about the link removed as well, as well as the whole point of me making this post. I was doing some reading on it, and I've read some VERY negative things about link removed. In general, most meetup groups fall apart (not just for dating but in general), dozens promise to attend get-togethers and then only 2-5 people show up. I was doing some reading on reddit about it, a lot of groups fall apart, no many friendships get made, and hardly anyone ever lands a date from those.

As far as the dating-specific meetups, I've heard they are treacherous and even worse; 20 men will show up and only 2 girls will go! No thanks. If i wanted those lowzy odds, I would go back to the online dating scene. To be honest, every time I think about dating, women, and relationships, it brings me to a dark and depressing place. The thought of doing all this crap that I don't like and making myself uncomfortable to meet women, I don't like it. Honestly, not to have an ego, but I feel my time is valuable and I shouldn't have to chase women, they should be chasing me. I work for people in Hollywood, I'm about to own a half-million dollar stake a company I work for, I'm a fitness person, a song writer, and when I'm done with school I will be an official "scientist". This whole thought of all of this is making it sound like I have to devalue myself as a human being to meet women and compete with other jerky guys who are probably losers compared to me, but losers typically win in the dating game. How many people do you all know who is in a toxic relationship? Almost everyone I know including my very own parents, they have an unbalanced, stupid and pointless relationship that one person is afraid to leave because they are afraid of being alone.

 

So joining a yoga class or sport makes me a creep, meetup groups turn out to be pointless, and I'm not going to degrade myself to bars and clubs - what else is there to life then for someone who is probably going to be stuck at home 90% of my life for my career? Nothing, that's what.

All my feelings, they relate back to someone I dated years ago back in 2011 or so. I thought I met the girl of my dreams, to be honest I fell in love with her. But that was a lie, because she was a freaking closet lesbian. I feel my life and feelings are taken for a joke. I thought I could have that again but with someone who was the real deal. But who am I kidding, that won't happen, not to me!

 

As for that old saying, "you'll find someone someday", well, statistically speaking, I won't. That's just a dumb catchphrase created by heartbroken mothers who know their kids will never find someone. I thought maybe I had a chance doing some of this stuff and trying new things but I don't think that will be the case, if anything it will probably me even more depressed and cynical. I think I will just go back to buying my feelings and wasting my time on video games. Video games don't make me depressed, aggravated, and lose sleep thinking about all this other garbage.

[happy_snapper]

I'm a big fan of meetup myself, but I know the quality of the groups is dependent partly on where you live. I think I'm quite lucky to live in a very meetup-friendly city. It's pretty massive here.

 

There are 2 groups that I've been a member of for nearly 2 years now and they're great, plus some that I've joined more recently that I've fitted right into. I've met literally hundreds of great people and made some good friends... oh yeah, and I met my girlfriend at an event back in December.

Yeah, you do sometimes get events where nobody attends, but if you can find some good groups it won't happen often. The last time I went to an event with less than 10 people was about a year ago. There's one group that I'm a member of (a 25-35's social group) that has the opposite problem, the events fill too fast and you're lucky if you can get a place. They have to arrange events as often as possible just to give people a chance of attending.

 

I wouldn't discount meetup. I'd suggest avoiding groups that you have to pay for, try as many groups as you can, try things that you've never tried before, be open and go for it. Don't go to events looking for dates, go to events looking to enjoy yourself.

 

By the way, I did meet some nice women at singles events and took one or two out on dates, but I actually had more luck with the ladies at hobby groups. The initial conversation is a little easier, when you know you share some interest from the start. I met my girlfriend at a geeky boardgames group.

[happy_snapper]

And by the way, I'm not saying that it's always true, but the "You'll meet someone when you least expect it" thing was true for me. I was incredibly cynical about it too, until it happened.

 

I was a member of 3 online dating sites and 2 singles groups on meetup and they weren't really doing much for me. Then in November I gave up entirely and quit them all, joined more social meetups and stopped my search for a woman.

About a month later I just happened to bump into a girl was absolutely perfect for me.

 

I don't believe in fate or any other nonsense like that. I think it was just that when I gave up on my woman hunt, I started really enjoying myself socially in a way I never had before. Women like a guy who's confident and knows how to enjoy himself. When I'd been searching, it was a little difficult to socialise with women, because I was too busy either trying to impress them, trying to work out what they were thinking about me, comparing myself to the other men... all that stuff. And the worst thing was that I'd kind of... distance myself from girls I wasn't very attracted to, to try to give as much attention as possible to the attractive ones.

There was always a bit of me that had an agenda.

 

Don't look for women. Put yourself in situations where you'll socialise with both men and women. If you're lucky you might bump into somebody, but if you don't, you'll have fun anyway, right?

If you spend your time searching for a woman and you don't find one, then you've wasted your time and you'll feel worse.

[robin]

Just take it easy my friend... it's not about dating earlier or dating alot of girls it's all about The right one , and she will come in the Right time

as you said you're all the time on you're computer , you can start trying on the dating websites it's a good way for you

[musicman777]

^ um this robin person I'm pretty sure is spamming a link to a dating site, anyway....

 

happy_snapper, thanks for the posting on link removed and your experience on that website. That is good to know a positive experience from it. I live near heavily populated areas including a major city and I don't see it being a problem to meet people on that website. I've made up my mind a lot of things in the past couple weeks with my life. Last month I left a karate school I have been going to for over a decade, but I decided I am going to go back. I quit mostly over politics with the school but the truth is I enjoy doing it. On a side note, many people met their wives at the place, although I haven't had such luck and I don't really care, I just enjoy the activity of karate...

Also, I have decided at this time I am NOT interested in doing yoga. okay, so I actually LIKE doing it, however, I don't see the value in joining an actual yoga club at this time. It's very expensive and I don't see much return from it. There is only so much to yoga. I may revisit this idea someday but mostly I don't want to spend the money on it.

 

I have also decided I am going to do the link removed, probably around April/May when the weather warms up where I live. I am NOT going to use this is a tool explicitly for dating, such as joining singles groups. There is an array full of problems in that department, it will probably result in me getting angry, frustrated, and depressed. Instead I want to use it as a socialization tool as happy_snapper suggest. I would like to make as many friends as possible, both male and female, and I have a feeling if people get to know the real me something will happen in the girlfriend department when the time is right. Things I would give a shot on there include fitness, astronomy, hikes, rock climbing, and other fun activities I may have not tried before. I am going to avoid things like gamer/computer groups as I want to break out of the norm and meet people in other hobbies/interest.

All in all, I am in by no means a rush, however, as I said, I'm turning 25. I think I have wasted away half of my 20's and have clung too much to the past. I think I should be a bit more social and have more human contact in general. If link removed doesn't work out not just for finding someone but friends, well, I'm going to do my best to not get hung up over it. If no one ever comes along, well as a famous bald captain once said, it is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness, that is life.

[joffie]

Hey,

 

You shouldn't be using meetup as a "dating service". I have been to quite a few meetups and I find mostly older crowd. I am the same age as you, and its about 90% men. I have never been to a meetup singles thing though, but I could imagine 10 guys trying to chat up one girl lol so not worth it for me!

 

I would like to meet new people too, but really don't know where to start.

[IvanKaramazov]

Hey,

 

You shouldn't be using meetup as a "dating service". I have been to quite a few meetups and I find mostly older crowd. I am the same age as you, and its about 90% men. I have never been to a meetup singles thing though, but I could imagine 10 guys trying to chat up one girl lol so not worth it for me!

 

I would like to meet new people too, but really don't know where to start.

 

I just joined meetup online, was figuring I'd give it a try, haven't been to anything yet. What you say seems like what I expected, which is why I only joined groups explicitly for younger people (in my 20s). But you're probably right. Just like online dating and speed dating, probably will go nowhere. I guess it's true, if it were easy everyone would do it.

 

And most of the advice I get (and it seems most people with the same type of issue as the OP) on this site is just that 'don't worry, it'll happen/ 'the one' will show up some day' kind of steaming horse .

 

At the moment, it seems like the best advice that can be given is 'be taller, handsomer, richer, and more charismatic.' lol. My next 'strategy', personally, is to go reread the copy of Tucker Max's book my brother gave me as a joke a long time ago, resolve to be as much of an inconsiderate and carefree as I can within the bounds of state and federal law of course, and see if this renders me more attractive. Will report results.

[musicman777]

Hey guys,

I was reading some of your responses on my post about link removed. I'm not even sure what to say or how to response to this type of stuff anymore. I've been using link removed lately, the site where you can do a genealogy map. I did it mainly out of respect for a recent deceased family member who gave me a list of family names to preserve. But I was looking at the relationships, and I would say in the past 300 years over 90% of everyone in my entire family on both sites have been married and found someone. So what is my problem, or OUR problem today with men like you guys responding to this post?

I've been doing a lot of reading and research. The short answer... marriage rates (especially in the US) are at an all time low. This is due to various reasons, but the sad fact is times and people are changing. Between economics, religion, and the digital age, society is changing. Look around, people are buried in their cellphones 24/7. Jobs are becoming digital, college is digital. And I also feel there is a "feminism" movement in this day and age. Women these days are becoming (over) empowered. They want to be strong and independent, and too many are starting to look at men as either a weakness or someone who wants to take advantage of them. The nice girls are hiding and troublemakers exist in bars and clubs today.

 

The truth is I don't have all the answers. Is link removed okay? Does it change anything in the realm of dating? Personally I feel you guys complaining about it, you shouldn't be using it explicitly as a "dating service" but as a social tool. Here is the truth I am starting to realize, note most of this is my own personal opinion but I am also going to be a scientist soon so maybe some of my thoughts should be valid...

Are women harder to find and date these days? Yes because of technology and society today. Have women changed today? Yes, but so have the men in some ways. Is it impossible to find a woman? No. But the thing is, women don't fall out of the sky. The thing is, most people I have known in my life including friends/family, a fair number of them have actively put themselves out there. Even my dad met my mother at a social place, it was really for Polish people which he is not and had really no good business being there.

 

The truth is we are men and living creatures and modern science can't simply shut our feelings/emotions/desires off. If you want it you got to fight for it, and sometimes play dirty and stack the deck. I do it in other aspects of my life... I would say use link removed, use it and abuse it. Old people go to those things? Utilize and exploit them. They could have cousins/children your age that you could date if you befriend them or even do them a favor. Women are everywhere, and unless they got a ring on their finger its fair game. Hell, even if they are engaged/married sometimes people aren't happy. I'm done being the nice guy and listening to people tell me how to play the game. I see a lot of cocky jerks land women and it's because they like to have it their way and play dirty to win. Well they're not the only sharks in the pond...

[happy_snapper]

There's a lot of stuff to comment on in this post.

 

First, I agree with you about meetup. It's a social tool, not a dating tool. But having a good social life and meeting lots of people can lead to dates.

Meetup is full of people who are looking to meet others and have fun, old or young, male or female, single or taken, straight, gay, bi, asexual....

If you put yourself into situations where you're meeting people with shared interests, then there's a chance that one of them might be female, single and looking for someone. And if there aren't any interesting women in the group you join, it doesn't mean that there won't ever be. When I first joined the group where I eventually met my girlfriend, it was mostly full of guys and I'd say the average age was about 40. But it was a fun way to spend Thursday evenings, so I kept going. I didn't think it was the kind of place I was ever going to get a date.

 

 

Secondly, I disagree with what you say about more people being alone nowadays than in the past, based on marriages.

I think that:

(A) The internet allows lonely people to find each other and talk, so it seems like there are more. In the past, it was pretty much impossible to know anything about people you didn't have some direct link to. There may not have been computer game nerds, but there were bookish people that were the equivalent.

(B) It's no longer a terrible thing to not be married and neither is getting divorced. You don't have to go back very far, for it to be considered very strange for a man or woman to be unmarried over the age of 30.

I don't have any data to back this up, but I have a hunch that these days the percentage of marriages that are happy is higher than it used to be. Why do I think this? Because less people are getting married because they have to. Your great-great-grandmother married your great-great-grandfather, but did she want to? Or was it that her father wanted her to? And she couldn't just get divorced if she didn't like her husband, the shame associated with that was too great.

 

I'd quit talking about women being over-empowered if I were you. If there are women who want to be independent of men, why should they be forced to do anything different?

Just because women don't need men these days, doesn't mean they don't want men. There are still plenty of empowered feminist women who enjoy male company and sex.

 

The biggest social change that's happened over the last few decades in our society, is that most people are free to do as they please. There's much less stigma associated with things these days. People are "allowed" to live together without getting married (and even have children !!!!!). Women who have no desire to get married don't have to. Women who have no desire to have a monogamous relationship don't have to have one.

[GhostB88]

I agree with the above and I think you are just taking your frustration out on other related issues.

 

I understand it is difficult for some people to meet women because there are very few opportunities in our daily lives to be in contact with any women. So the solution isn't to make yourself more attractive and hope a woman will come in your life. I believe the solution is to create yourself opportunities to meet women. Personally I don't see anything wrong with being direct and use online dating or link removed, but if they haven't worked for you, then I'd try something else.

 

Like you said before, you have hobbies such as yoga and karate that can create such opportunities, so why not make a commitment and give them a shot? I wouldn't expect any result within a day, a week or even a month, but the more time you commit into them, the more friends you will make and once you have created more friend circles for yourself, you'll be able to meet whichever woman you'd like! So yes, I believe the real solution to meeting the woman of your life is through friends, and in order to do that, you need to do stuff with people you share common interests with. There isn't a shortcut, finding someone and building a healthy relationship can't be done in a day, and I think this is why online dating, speed dating and blind dates don't really work out. They just rush the process of meeting someone.

 

Finally, I don't think there's anything wrong with joining a yoga club or signing up for karate classes to meet women. It just depends on your approach. If you signed up for those activities just to hit on all the ladies in the class, well, then you'll be very disappointed with the result and end up hating the activity too. If you are there just to enjoy the activity with others who also share the same interest, then there's opportunity for you.

 

So go out there and do stuff you like and make some new friends, and meet their friends, and so on, then one day you will believe that the right woman will show up at the right time for you.

 

P.s. Let me know what works for you and what doesn't. I'd like to know because I am also having the same problem.

[musicman777]

Hello GhostB88, thank you for your thoughtful reply. You asked what works and what doesn't let me tell you something interesting about the subject of karate. FYI, I am already in karate, I am a black belt and I have been in the sport for 15 years going to the same school. Believe it or not, three men in my karate school have married women they met there. One women was a student and two others ladies were divorced mothers that brought their young kids there. Two of the guys that got married were nice guys but very serious, not the kind of people you would expect to land a women, and both of them did it somehow!

Regarding my luck in the karate school... well that's a different story. I don't like talking about this subject but I will. There is one woman there that has been going for many years. She liked me years ago and I never really care for her. Well there was a Christmas party about a year ago and another person in the karate club (as well as my mother) said I should ask her out. I did, and she said she would have liked to but she had a boyfriend. Of course she did, that is my luck. That is how the world plays jokes on me anymore. And to make matters worse, I seen the guy start coming around the karate club and to be 110% honest, it made me very angry because it started immediately after I asked her out that time. It already made me a combination of upset and depressed she rejected me, and then that just adds fuel to the fire.

 

She said she would tell me if it didn't work out but honestly I have avoided all social gatherings to see her since then including this last Christmas party, for that reason among others. The chances of her ever approaching me are zero as far as I am concerned. I am not going to grasp onto the hope of one person for that long. I can't stand the thought of someone I was interested in with another guy. There was also another women there, older than me, and I think she was interested in me but our age gap was a bit big, and she quit coming around afterwards.

After both of those events, well, my karate was more important to me than the women. I know if I get hurt/upset with one like I did already, it will jeopardize my interest in the sport I have been doing all those years. I am a well respected person of my club too and I don't want my name to get out that I am playing games with the women there. I don't know how these other guys did it, but it didn't work out for me in those cases. It's just in my nature, women get me very upset sometimes and I take it very personal, more than I should but I can't help it. Apart from that, what people say is true; if you are joining karate, yoga, or whatever, you are going there to do the sport. If you are going to socialize with people, well in my experience with karate it happens before/after classes and at things like the Christmas parties. Sometimes some of the older guys throw small parties/get-together to. I go to most of these but there are not really women-oriented.

 

That is one reason I wanted to try the yoga... considering the success people have had at the karate school, I thought it might actually work in a similar thing. Karate is mostly a male dominated sport, and if I tipped the scales to put myself in a more women-dominated activity I would increase my odds, possibly ten fold. I do it on my own and have actually been getting decent at it. It is separate from my karate and other aspects of my life, if it fell apart for whatever reasons I could just leave. I just have such a huge fear of going there, though. Even if I am there for my own sake to do yoga, I can't help but think women are going to despise me being there, I always read crap like it's their "sanctuary". Newsflash; Yoga is a business, not a sanctuary, and it is a sport both women and men can do, and I feel people like myself should break the stereotype. Another reason I fear yoga believe it or not; I'm scared it will work too well! Some guys I have heard were crawling with dates from yoga schools. I don't want to create angst between the members there and I really am not going to date as many as people as possible, I would more so like that one special one.

Someone in karate goes with their wife and invited me once, but he goes far too early in the morning and I work late to do that. Another older black belt said if he was in my shoes he would would definitely do it to meet girls. I've had many people tell me to try the yoga. My mother said I should just go one day to see if I even like it first, or if its a good school with young girls there. Honestly, I don't know yet, right now I am deep into college work for Spring and I have too much work, but I was thinking April/May when things go down, that is when I wanted to do something about my girlfriend situation. In an earlier post I was pretty determined back then to try link removed but I have mixed feelings on that site, even for just making friends. It sounds kind of mediocre, actually! Forced social gatherings. Things like karate and yoga, you get "normal" people there doing a normal things.

 

So yes GhostB88, I can tell you although I haven't personally had success in this front (yet), I have seen other men not get dates but WIVES in the karate school. I mean ugly guys too, people who have beer guts and are balding picked up beautiful women there. Two of the ones mentioned even had babies. One couple is even in their late 50's and met there. It's unreal. Like I said, I have my own personal demons with the karate school, but if someone did come along that caught my interest knowing myself I would probably move on it like a hawk, and I am most definitely considering the yoga still in the back of my mind...

[GhostB88]

I'm sorry to hear about your karate story, but quitting karate altogether sounds like you are running away from the problem rather than dealing with the problem. I mean, if the girl you like is bringing her boyfriend over and that's making you uncomfortable, you should let her know and work out a way to deal with it. Maybe you guys will go to different classes, or maybe she won't bring her boyfriend over anymore. If you don't want to talk to her, couldn't you at least switch to another karate dojo instead of giving up on the sport altogether? Anyways, it seems like you are letting a small setback dictate where life is heading, and it's only going to get worse if you keep letting this happen. A viscous cycle.

 

With regards to your college work, yes, you will have to balance your life. Plan a schedule that will work out for you first before making any activities that will require time commitment. To me, this sounds like a bigger issue because time is fixed and limited while your attitude, opportunity and luck towards the dating world can change as turn around anytime.

 

Your mother is a wise woman, because she asked you to TRY yoga class and see if you like it first. You shouldn't put so much hope into one type of activity before even trying. All that high expectations and false hope will just lead you to more disappointment. Just try something new without having an opinion of it first, then form an opinion of it after. This philosophy should probably apply towards your attitude of women as well. Don't form such heavy judgments and strong opinions based on experience with ONE woman.

 

So go out, try new things, and enjoy!

[musicman777]

Thanks for your words again Ghost! Just so you know, I did NOT quit karate over the girl by any means. I haven't been going recently because I am going through politics with the owners of the club right now. They expect me to do a lot of things for the karate school that are getting out of hand, basically "free labor" if you know what I mean. The girl had absolutely nothing to do with that whatsoever.

 

The time allotment, I do my best. I work on my own hours believe it or not, but I also have ALOT of work to do. I'm a very busy man. More advice from my smart mother was to get a good college/career path first! But I do think I am eventually going to have to make time for a social life down the road. I am nearing completion of college and have solidified many things career wise. Life just isn't about staring at a computer screen for 12+ hours a day sometimes. Also, most of my negativity towards women/dating, this has to do with just more than one women, but many failed relationships. That one hurt me the most, but I have also been cheated on and left for other guys many times. I have so many bitter experiences/breakups with women, pretty much 99% of those weren't my fault but nasty girls.

 

I agree on the yoga as well. I do just want to try it at first and see how it is, I don't know if it will be good, bad, or somewhere in between in any aspects, not just meeting the ladies. Oh well, good luck!

[GhostB88]

I'm sorry to hear about your terrible experiences with nasty girls, but you should not that not all girls are like that. In fact, most girls are not like that and it's likely you were unlucky to meet those girls, or the way you meet girls led you to these types of girls. Anyways, I understand your frustration but I wouldn't give up on finding good girls.

 

Ok, let me know how Yoga or other activities turn out for you, and good luck!