ProtestTheHero

That's why I avoid relationships and most women. I personally have a problem with women flaunting their beauty at me when I feel average...it makes me angry.

Thanks. I'm way analytical, sometimes to my own downfall (trying to analyze women is like trying to split the atom with a roll of toilet paper and a tooth brush). Yeah, the only thing I've ever been complimented on are my eyes and teeth (guess braces paid off). I'm not really in a stereotypical category either. In my own group I'm the clown, guess it depends who I'm around. Maybe one day it will pay off and someone will like me , lol. And yes, even at the risk of sounding like a sleezy, retarded 17 year old guy, I do agree that you have pretty eyes. But I doubt your loner status is a result of your attitude towards others or your appearance. I know sometimes girls seem unapproachable until you start talking with them. As long as you don't look like you're about to bite someone's head off, I don't understand what the problem is. But then again, I won't pretend to be a social expert.

Do you differ from most people around you at school? For example, are you not religious in an area where religion is common? Things of that nature...personality differences, preferences, etc. Are you friends loners, or are they outgoing? Seems weird that you don't get any attention though. You'd get plenty with the type of guys down here, whether you liked it or not. They are about as subtle and charming as a charging rhino. "Me Tarzan, You Jane!" types, lol. Like I said before though, this is in no way an indication of your value. Most of the time I prefer to be alone.

I have all the confidence in the world in my personality. I just don't think I'm a very attractive person. I'm not overweight or anything...I'm not sure what it is. There is always someone better looking. At the same time, there will always be someone worse looking. The greatest mistake we can make is to compare ourselves to everyone else. Don't sell yourself short. Often times people don't approach others out of intimidation. Maybe they just think you are better than them. I say this because that's how I feel sometimes. I don't approach beautiful women because they can do better than me. It's a process, and it of course takes time. There has to be something you like about yourself. But yes, social circles are in no way a measure of our own worth...

I can definitely relate to this. Your situation is similar to mine. I in no way have a lack of friends, I just seem to be doing things alone most of the time...especially at school. I'm not scary, an outcast, or unfriendly either. I'm not particularly conventional in the way I think, but people find it interesting more than they do disturbing (unless it's a church group. Fundamentalists do not like my brand of free thinking). People that know me have no problems initiating activities, etc., but I don't have anyone walking up to me and asking me to join them in a certain activity (parties every now and then). The best advice I could give you is to continue doing what your doing. Being alone is not a failure on your part. My friends and I often go out of our way to include people that we notice sitting by themselves, etc. I'm in Florida, so the valley/wanna be thug types tend to leave everyone else out. Don't change who you are just to please someone else, though. I've seen a number of threads that you have started. You seem like a well rounded person. You have already eliminated one of my stereotypes. I assumed all good looking women had it easy and that attention and friendliness came in abundance. I guess not. Just hang in there though. Out of curiosity, what are the majority of the people around you like?

No, I don't believe in it. It's a nice word we use as a crutch to either corroborate a relationship or support someone who isn't in one. Much like the notions of god and the afterlife, they are things that people use as a tool of comfort but never find. I would concede that they are created, but I would be willing to bet a lot that they aren't just out there waiting to find each other.

I like it. That's where my comfort zone is. I'm way better in debating than I am in just normal chit chat. It would be a huge turn on for me to know I'm with a girl who can hold her own in a battle of wits as well. But I may or may not be a dork. I haven't confirmed that yet, lol.

Yeah, that's the way I am. I'm so down on my own physical appearance that I just don't even attempt to get with girls. I don't even know if it's justified, but I certainly think very little of myself when it comes to looks. I'm kind, smart, I listen, and I enjoy doing those types of things. Unfortunately I have no confidence at all, so all those other things are irrelevant since I never act on them.

The hardest part is knowing that there is little chance that I ever won't be single. I'm so messed up in the head when it comes to girls. Once I find one I like, I get a ridiculous inferiority complex and I assume she can do WAY better than me. In the words of Layne Staley, I got "no one to cry to, no place to call home." I'd like to share my life with someone, and I'd like to say that I love someone who loves me back. Bah. It is now time for me to wallow in self-pity, lol. Some people are better off alone I guess.

Lol, that sounds a lot like me. I don't know if I can evaluate my own personality, but I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I'm a virgin. I've never touched drugs. My parents are religious, but I'm not at all. I'm not overly hostile towards it since I love my parents, but I just don't care much about it. I used to tell my Dad that Christianity wouldn't change my life style much anyway, since I don't deal with many of those issues. Guys like us exist, but the problem is you probably won't know him when you see him. From my own experiences, I just don't fit into any groups. I'm not religious, so the Christian straight-edge guys act like I've committed a felony. Most other people think I'm weird for intentionally choosing not to do any of those things without a religious reason. So, I often feel like I'm alone in the way I think, and I guess this is mistaken as low self-esteem. Back on-topic: Yeah, we exist, but good luck finding us. Maybe you can meet one of us who are more extroverted. I'm only shy around people I don't know as well, but once I get to know people better I can act as crazy as the next person.