Men who like transsexuals?

[pinkelephant]

There are a couple of papers on this subject, obviously not a lot, though.. but anyway, i read some to write one of my papers for a class and it's been a while but from what i remember, it was the hypersexuality of a trans-woman that most genetic women don't have. i think it's also a tabboo thing, like school girls? lolitta type? people can understand that right? me being bi can totally see if, but i don't think that count haha.

[Selfdeprivated]

When I was 13 one of the first pornographic images I saw was that of * * * * girl hentai. Since then I've found myself being extremely attracted to pre-op mtf transexual. I find very little more arrousing than a beautiful trans-woman. Although I've only had sex a few times and had sex with more females, I had more satisfying sex with trans-women. I personally don't view it as a taboo mainly due to the fact that I raised myself so there wasn't anyone in my life to convince me that it's "wrong" or not.

From the very beginning I viewed trans-women as exotic rarities something along the lines of "complete beings."

[Nerdyjock]

I think I can offer a bit of advice for your fear.

 

Your bf was honest with you about something. That is good. Regardless of what he is attracted to, all that matters is his fidelity. Even if he was 100% straight and only into genetic females, not trannies, he could still go cheat on you with another girl out of lust. Therefore, I think if you love him, all you need to do is take comfort in his honesty. Even if he desires a tranny, it doesn't mean he has to go out and get one to be satisfied. In the same vein, even if he didn't like trannies, he may still lust for the feeling of a "new" girl in bed but that doesn't mean he has to go out and get one.

 

What matters is the action, not the temptation or the lust. I think if he was honest with you then this is a great sign and you have nothing to worry about. Fidelity is all that matters, not sexuality.

[Ant13]

First of all thank you everyone who has had the courage to respond on this thread

 

I grew up straight and had no interests in anyone who wasn't female, but I was twisted eternally when I was going through puberty when a close friend of mine shared a porno mag with me where A female had both male and female parts, I wrote it off growing up thinking it was weird but when I developed I found myself strangely attracted to transgender; It was nothing I could control It is just how I am.

 

To all females looking into their male counter-parts strange attraction I have only this to say to you, I have been in two long term relationships with females and both times when they discovered my kinks they assumed I was homosexual and ladys, this is the most hurtful act that you can bestow on your male counter-part, I see how it may be confusing to you but when you are someone who enjoys this fetish it is the most extreme feeling of hurt when you feel like you are being outted as being gay when you are not. That being said, I am attracted to women and if you feel the same way that I do you are attracted to every aspect of a woman besides her genitalia, I have never had a transgender experience because I do not have the courage, but I love women and everything about them and I enjoy vaginal sex. We are just twisted inside and there is nothing we can do about it, we just want to be excepted.

 

Thank you.

[Ant13]

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[ssloan12]

Why are men attracted to Transsexuals MTF.?

I am not attracted to men what so ever. I have had many women over the years. Many beautiful and some not so beautiful. But all women.

Never wanted to experiment with men. I had a few men when I was younger that hit on me and were very forward it just turned me off.

 

What really attracts me, is the face. I am a sucker for pretty eyes, soft lips, smooth skin, nice hair. That's what has always attracted me to a woman. Legs next, then the T/A. (And you have to have a brain)

Well, while I was on the net, I found a site called.. "Rate my Tranny". I was curious, so I browsed. Some of these "women" were pretty ugly cross-dressing dudes. But there was one model who's face was so beautiful, I thought this was a mistake. Most of the shots were from the waist up. She had beautiful natural breasts, beautiful skin, I was really turned on by her. Then on the next page, there was a full nude. She was standing above the camera with an erection. This was my first view of a beautiful woman with a penis. I was totally and completely turned on.

Was I gay? I didn't know. Was it just all about the taboo of it? Maybe.

But then I started to really read about transsexuals, their culture and their stories. To this day, I am still transfixed by their courage and their resolve to do what is right for them. At first, for me it was all about the taboo of it. I still fantasize about being with a trans-gender woman. But what am I really looking for? The woman? or the woman with the penis? Why am I so attracted to this phenomenon?

 

From my research, there is a pretty big riff between the Porn star Transsexuals and their Transsexualism in real life. While porn star transsexuals appear to be women with a male sex drive and abilities, off camera it appears different. In many studies, transsexual women who have hereto-sexual male partners don't even acknowledge their womens penis. They actually pretend their not even there. That took a little to get my head around.

I was ignorant to think that these hyper-sexed people wanted it all so, boobs, and ass. When I dug deeper, I realized that these people really wanted to be fully women. Even if they don't go the the sexual reassignment they wanted to be a treated as woman, live as a woman etc. Acknowledging their penis was a problem. It's like an ugly growth to them.

 

So, what was I really attracted to? The penis they didn't want? It was a real puzzle, until a few weeks ago. I was on youtube and browsed transgender blogs. I found on person who was totally male, metro-sexual, started taking hormones and today is a totally hot woman.

 

What I found was that I went back to the basics. They eyes, the lips, the skin, the hair, the face. Thats what attracted me to her. Then she left a few video blogs and she struck me deeply. She said she wished the world didn't have to revolve around money. That we could live beyond that. And there it was. A person, not a transsexual, who was looking beyond the here and now. That is was attracted me the most.

 

So, I am a man. Never been with a guy or transsexual. Why do I like them?

1. They are beautiful people inside and out.

[Aeron1]

Hi there, I am new here. I think I can answear the question to the post that started this thread.

 

I am an hetero that likes trannies. For me a man looks like a monkey (sorry but I see like this so I am not gay).

 

I don´t like penis because they are disguisting but:

 

1 - I like womans (specially their lovely faces)

 

2 - I feel sometimes like a tranny (I like the feel that I am very erotic and very desired woman)

 

3 - Since I have no ... I can only be analy penetrated.

(I like anal stimulation also if done by a dildo, woman rimming me or a tranny penis)

 

4 - Anal penetration is only possible by dildos and penis but only penis can input pleasure in the owners, no dildo can give

pleasure to the penetrator.

So as I make stimulation to a penis I know I am playing with his desires.

 

5 - I don´t like penis but since they will be inside me I won´t see them...I will just feel it.

So no problem with not like them visually.

 

 

Also I want to say why I like to feel like a very erotic tranny:

 

1- I never had a GF because I am very demanding (I can´t feel nothing by normal people...)

I hate this "demanding system" I born with but there is no way around.

Also I am rejected as most of the men...I am just a normal guy.

 

2- I started to imagine punishments towards womans like "watersports", seeing a woman tasting urine and suffering from

that gived me pleasure. Then I started seeing "scat"...Deeper I could go into the revenge the better.

 

3- Since I can´t have an emotional life, since I can´t have a woman SO I have became a woman...

As a woman I can seduce, have love, sex, desires, flirting, stripping...everything that was closed to me is now at my

reach.

I started to feel like a woman without demanding but I think that was the mechanism that explains it.

 

4- Sometimes I go to escorts to have the human touch and also to humilate them by demanding rimming.

That´s the best of 2 worlds: anal stimulation with woman humiliation.

 

5- The first time I felt like I wanted to be a tranny has when saw a woman being annaly penetrated and I wanted to

be there...making the same erotism as a woman.

 

6- The tranny mechanism is actived as most of the perversions: on "stress situations" they appear.

 

7- I masturbate myself seeing womans making anal sex but at same time seducing with their asses

(without the seducing parting during anal I can´t feel the need to seduce someone).

 

8- I don´t like movies with trannies !!! Because I want to be a woman an not a tranny...but in sex only trannies can

penetrate with real penis !!!

 

Thank you and that is the answear.

[ATLstudent]

Well i am one of those guys....no interest in the downstairs portion of the transexual girl. BUt honestly to i cant explain it....it doesnt make sense on paper...it just is.....maybe a psych could take a shot at it.....its probably some kind of intimacy issue....i know(sadly) there is a more objectifying of a tgirl that is going on in my mind.....even though they can look similar just on a instinctual or senses level being around a transexual feels different....just in general.......Usually a tgirl fantasy is just a straight up sex...escort type thing......Maybe its easier for my mind to go there when its this objectifiyed tgirl(not saying its a good thing to objectify).......You know I think porn is a generally starting point for most guys who like tgirls.....porn introduces you to them...so maybe you see them in a different light.....I dunno this is speculation...

As far as what i like......usually they have had plastic surgery.....in porn....and they and really nice butts...big butts...with tanlines....and perky boobs....this is a sort of fetish dirty turn on......I think thats the whole thing.....its just dirtier and nastier and more kinky...and certain guys like that.......IM not saying its super healthy but as a guy i think thats where its coming from......Im trying to stay away from it though.

[juanjg92]

I identify myself as gay, although, technically I am bi, I am just more attracted towards men, and the girls I'm attracted to are usually lesbians... so no point in going there... I don't find tranys attractive at all... or even effeminate gays. I've always said If I want to be with a woman, then I'll take the real thing. The truth Is I am just more attracted towards the male figure, and the male personality, which is why at times I find dykes attractive. I just dont have an attraction towards the female figure, wether it be a girl or a tranny.

[Bleeped]

This is my first post on this forum. I consider myself straight. I have been dating genetic women for the past year and a half. I have to say I think I am done with genetic women for now. I found my last gf attractive but when we were having sex I would pretend she was a pre-op TS. It turned me on so much more. I like how much more feminine TS's generally are. Many of them tend to be ultra feminine I think because they may feel like they need to be seen as legitimate women so they go the extra mile. I certainly see TS's who've made the journey as fully formed women. I agree that there can be fewer games with them. They are more straight forward.

 

I dated a Philipino TS several years ago and she was incredible. I like that many of them have a higher sex drive than genetic girls (GG's). Physically they are more attractive to me because they are more versatile in bed. It also seems that they are more interested in whether I am pleased or not. Since they used to be male they do know what it takes to turn a guy on. I am always concerned with whether I turn on my woman or TS, but GG's are not so much that way with me. I actually started even having a hard time keeping it up for my last gf. Sad and sorry to say. I just really cannot deny it anymore that pre-op TS's (some of them) are what really turn me on. In my mind their having that little extra package makes them special, maybe even naughty in a way that I really like. And lets face it, a small portion of TS's are just as hot or hotter than the best looking women because they don't let themselves go the way GG's tend to.

 

I know I generalize a lot here but its the way I see things from my experience. I am a 39yo good-looking muscular white male who has just never found the right one. Am starting to wonder if I ever will find her either. I live in a small college town where there are few to no TS's (except maybe students who are just too young for me). I look around at women my age in general and from dating and there are few to none that I am really attracted to. I eat healthy, lift weights, workout and take care of myself and most of the women my age look, well they look old. People mistake me for being in my late 20's to low 30's. Just seems as though all the good women have been taken. I need to move closer to a city to fix this.

[Chronicler]

My Dearest Crystal,

While this is an older question I am sure that many today still have many questions related to this phenomenon. Let me begin by saying this: this is not a new phenomenon, i.e. transgendered females as well as male have been apart of the human population since the beginning of mankind's existence.

 

Secondly, one's gender is for the most part a biological choice and not a personal choice. That is to say that modern scientist have discovered gene sequences that actually cause this phenomenon.

 

Thirdly, the transgendered females that you see on television and performing in various venues are not truly representative of the transgendered community. Many transgendered females/males live amongst us every day and none are the wiser. Moreover, Many transgendered individuals are well educated professional people with viable employment. Please take note that these individuals are not indicative of the transgendered individuals that you usually view on television. Many of these people are models, actors, chemical engineers, doctors, nurses, and scientist.

 

fourthly, very few people do the necessary research to understand the phenomenon in question. And it doesn't take much - just a little reading. And remember that most families have a relative that is transgendered. That is to say bothers, sisters, aunts, uncle and cousins.

 

fifthly, These people tend to be non-violent and wish no harm toward others - that can not be said for the general population that targets them as undesirables. the facts; everyday in America a transgendered, Gay or lesbian person is killed in America. (think about it).

 

A special note: a transgendered female is one who has:

1. Gone through a battery of psychological testing in order to insure that she really is transgendered.

2. Has a licensed psychotherapist that helps her to understand what she is going through and helps her manage life

3. She will most likely have an endocrinologist that is responsible for her lifetime medication regimen

4. that is to say she must follow the Harry Benjamin Standards of Care - must take hormones, and live as a woman for a

required amount of time.

5. True transgendered females fall into two general categories: Pre-Operative and Post-Operative

6. The pre-operative transgendered female may still have all of her male genitalia or may have been castrated.

7. The post-operative transgendered female has had Gender Reassignment Surgery (GRS),i.e she has a female vulva

8. Not all but the majority of transgender females you see on television do not fall into this category

 

Now to answer your question: A male by his very nature is attracted to a beautiful female. Think about it: when you see a person you only see what is presented to you - know one walks around with their genitalia exposed or a sign on them that states their gender. The male only sees a woman be it real or an illusion - his very nature makes him powerless to change this.

 

Now one more very important fact: All humans on the planet evolve from the female - that is to say the basic and primary human sex is FEMALE. This is a scientific FACT. Every human on this planet is FEMALE first. A little hormone called ANDROGEN changes this female substrate into a male.

 

Another important thing to note is that the very first thing that all human beings do when coming into life is - suck! We suck our mother's breast or we suck on a bottle but one of the first acts that all humans perform is the act of sucking.

 

The major physical difference between a male and a female is the genitalia. Outside of this they are pretty much the same: we all have a mouth as well as an anus (digestive tract). So whether one is having oral sex or anal sex with a female or male - that's physically and chemically the same thing. But no matter who the person is, one should insure that a high degree of cleanliness is practiced.

 

One last note, here's another SCIENTIFIC FACT: no less that 85% of the people in the world are bisexual.

Every female on the planet carries the male hormone TESTOSTERONE every male on the planet carries the female hormone ESTROGEN. There is no such thing as the total female or male - we all fall on the scale between these two extremes.

 

Hopefully, this long winded reply will help to end some of the confusion about this subject. So in closing, I always tell people be human enough to let another person be who she or he is because non of us are perfect - in fact just look at our world and you can't help but see how far from perfection we are. And remember this - the divorce rate in America amongst heterosexual couples is greater than 63% - nontraditional marriages and couples tend to last a lot longer than that which is considered normal.

 

So experiment with your sexuality and be open enough to let your partner do the same; in fact experiment together - strap something on if that's what he likes - hey you might like it too (Smile).

 

Chronicler

[SueAnderson]

Hello Crystal,

 

I must appologise for not reading this entire thread but I'm guessing that like the response prior to mine lots of people will be telling you what a transgendered girl or T-Girl is and why that makes them attractive to some men.

 

I have classed myself as a T-Girl for quite a few years now, I will always be pre-op as having the best of both worlds really does work for me. My femme persona depends solely on my frame of mind and in the right frame of mind I will live en-femme for weeks or months sometimes. In another frame of mind I'm equally happy in drab for years.

 

I like to look attractive mainly for myself, other people can think what they want but as long as I am happy that is all that matters. I have been lucky enough to meet hundreds of people at clubs, pubs, wine bars or just out and about and there really is no single reason why I do what I do and why they may like me for it. Some men simply like the thrill of chatting and trying to score with a T-Girl. Others like to try the power thing over them or to be dominated by us and some like to belittle us......it's amazing the high percentage of these that come back quietly later in the evening for a chat though.

 

I'm not interested in men generally but the very few that treat me with respect, are interested in me and accept me for who I am not what I am are fantastic people. I have never been with any man who is married or in a relationship (not that I know of at least) and intimacy is not something that I allow to happen quickly if at all. If they get bored early on then taking my time has proved to be a good filter......

 

Personally I see nothing wrong with a man or woman who is attracted to T-Girls. They will use there looks, charm and personality in an identical way to a genetic girl and they respond to care, consideration and love in the same way to.

 

If the attraction is purely sexual then I doubt anything can be done with such a fetish. If the attraction is one of interest, gob smacked awe or 'how in god's name has he done that'! then it is much easier to work with. At the end of the day the female form and associated clothes, makeup, apparel and such like are very attractive to men when placed on a convincing frame....good job too! It's not really his / her fault if they really like what they see.

[Maggie99]

Hi Ant13.

 

Thank u. Thank u for your reply. I dont kow if that answer of yourscis what im dying to hear from my bf, but let me tell u my story.

 

Im a typical asian girl with limited knowledge on sex. Till 3 years ago i met a caucasian guy from the western suburbs and fell in love with him. We moved in with each other 6 months down the track and sex was all ok until that six months was up. I knew e loved me no doubt there, but sex was gone. I thought it was normal that our sexlife would fizz out,but not be at least completely non existent.

I started to blame myself, n than i blamed him. We would fight all the time, i even took it that he hated the way i looked even though other males would have no issues with checking me out.

So i knew it wasnt me,but he kept telling me that i complained to much. We still had sex, but it was * * * * .

I wanted another guys touch...so bad. I feel so bad for typing this and i am literally crying now as i am typing this but just 10 days ago i found out why he is like this and it is eerily similiar to everyone elses story here.

I was sleeping in his room after i ad touched myself. Yes i couldnt bear to ask him for it anymore n be turned down.

Anyways i came out after my nap and saw him doing sthing suss.

When he heard me he jumped and looked at me. First he tried to cover up but than when i asked him what he was looking at, he said sorry and that he has been a bad boy and ran into the bathroom.

I knew he was upto sthing but i mainly felt hurt.

When he came out he finally told me.

My first uneduatwd thought was to assume hes gay. As all people would think. He couldnt explain why but i loved him so much that after some thought, i did my research. And found all your replies, whicj have proved to be comforting.

I also went and bought adult toys, strap ons and lube, double sided strap ons, the whole shebang just so i can work it out with him.

It was weird watching him on top of me like a girl would normally be and being anally probed and loving it.do i wish he was just normal? Yes of course.

But becoz i love him so much im willing to try. But im also really scared of being alone. Or that e will leave me.

I am now wanting to date other guys. Or sleep with them. Is this wrong of me?

I dont know who to turn to . I dont knoe what to do. My bf seems to be all ok abt this, but it feels like its not fair he has dragged me into this ordeal.

I love him, but i hate him too.

What do i do?

Please. Serious replies

[positive86]

HELP... my bf just told me that he was inlove before with a transexual (not so long ago that he had relationship with one - maybe abt a year ago).. ALL new to me. And i don't know how to take this at all. ALL i know is that I am a DECENT, WELL EDUCATED straight girl (sorry , genuinely no offense to anybody) and not in my life had I imagined I would encounter such a thing. I guess I would say i could be gullible and naive.. i wasn't born yesterday really. and i have had other life experiences that had made me 'street smart' and that I could take a beating any time.. but the beating of all emotional&mental - finding out that my bf has this past (he claims it is past.. we have been together for only about 6 months and i could say that i really grew to love him deeply) .. is REALLY overwhelming... i need big time advise.. i'm in acute pain now.. emotional and mental . i have read some of the things you have to say.. i need your help guys.. and i really need to talk to someone.. i am human. and real. and staying in line , and on top of things as much as I can... pls help me.........

[lukeb]

At 6 months of dating someone and that someone telling you he is in love with someone else now there is no need to take it any differently than for what it is. I am sorry to hear you were dating someone and it didn't work out. That is what dating is for, to find out if you are right for one another.

[irishapple]

I cannot figure out for the life of me why your boyfriend, who appears to have been up front on and honest with you, should be making you feel this way. Your boyfriend liked a transsexual, what is the big deal? That its not one particular gender? He has a past like everyone else, you are letting this bother you it seems as the fact that the transsexual was perhaps changing gender that you let this get to you. You need to focus on building your relationship up with yourself. Are you looking for a reason to kick him to the kerb? Build a bridge and get over it...Sorry if that sounds harsh but that is the truth.

[mastersack]

i just think it may be because women contemplate things too much and make them complicate dinstead of let them be that things turn in the opposite direction for them

[Jas1195]

Your query touched my heart because I can understand your confusion about this and I thought maybe my experience would be helpful. I have a transgender fetish that is rooted in my very early childhood and it stems from a profound admiration of the women in my life and a deep curiosity about what it would like to be a girl/woman. I've fantasized about that since I was a toddler because girls absolutely fascinated me. As a boy, I used to have magical thoughts that if I wished for it enough, met a witch or had a powerful enough dream, that I could transform and know what it felt like to be a girl but the fantasy always included the option to change back to being male at will. I was profoundly envious of girls because, with informed hindsight, I felt being socialized as a boy repressed many natural parts of my self expression and emotional accessibility. In most modern societies, a man having a desire to express basic human instincts or needs that his given culture labels as 'feminine' is taboo. Because I had these thoughts I made sure they were outwardly invisible, which internally caused me a lot of anxiety, self judgement, shame and sexual hangups - I used to be a very conservative Christian because it gave me comfort being attached to some sort of 'norm.'

 

So, I secreted these thoughts and feelings, unable to openly and safely express them and by puberty, when sexual desire was thrown into the mix, I fetishized them. The fetish for me in looking at T-girls, is the recognition that they achieved MY fantasy - they remind me that I could transform into a woman if I was really willing to do so - my dream vicariously made real. Assuming they are not photoshopped (which the probably are), seeing their penises is a sort of verification that they were indeed men once. The penis itself does not interest me as a sexual object, nor do I have a desire for it sexually - I prefer to see transgender MTF women clothed or their nude breasts. (By the way, I also prefer erotica with natal women the same way - something left for the imagination). In T-girl erotica, I know the penis is there but don't need or want to see it more than once; I will actually crop images of t-girls I find attractive so I don't have to see their phalli. I also get a high watching YouTube transition videos or before and after photos for the same reason: I can see they were men who (often) very successfully feminized themselves, if they look at all manly, I'm not interested. One exception to genetalia: I like to look at images of well-created neovaginas for the same reason - I get off knowing there used to be a penis there and that this person realized my fantasy.

 

I am married to a woman, I've always dated and had sex with women and I ADORE vaginas. I like being a man and having sex with my wife. Being with a man holds no interest for me and I don't really even want to be with a T-girl because of her penis. I reckon could be with a fully transitioned transwoman though, provided she was as feminine a woman as my wife or other natal women I find attractive

 

So, I think I've fetishized women to the point that I want to be one - but I also like being a man a lot. If I awoke tomorrow and had changed into a woman, in my fantasy world, I'd be happy and run with it but in reality, I think the novelty would be short lived and then it would become mundane everyday life and I'd want my male self back.

 

Anyway, google autogynephilia and also Dr. Anne Lawrence, that explains me to some degree and, I think, a lot of other men who have a transgender/transsexual fettish. There are many, many men and boys who experience this fantasy to be a girl or woman and I honestly believe it is 'normal,' our society tells us it is abnormal because it fits outside a narrowly defined gender binary i.e., men behave this way and women that and ne'er the two shall blur. A quick internet search and you see that is far from true, people experience their sexuality and fantasy in many different ways and there are thousands of men who have these thoughts and 'fetishes' - imagine how many of us are still fully closeted fearful of what these feelings mean. Imagine the gay and lesbian people who remained hidden throughout the centuries because they knew they would be met with vitriol.

 

I'm not sure if this fetish the way I experience it explains your boyfriend - it explains me and I now know I'm not alone in these fantasies. I consider myself transgendered because I love drag and crossdressed for most of my life, I briefly took female hormones because I thought I might be transsexual before I saw and felt myself beginning to change, became frightened of loosing my masculine self and stopped: I know now, because I've discussed this with others and a councilor, I am not transsexual. I was deeply confused because I felt absolutely alone and obsessive in trying to understand my thoughts. I am frequently described as rugged, butch, some say I look like Hugh Jackman. As I am, I am very masculine and no one would ever know I am transgendered. When I was Younger, I looked okay in drag - definitely not passable but pretty, my wife tells me I was an androgynous young man. My attraction to T-girls is a projection of my fantasy life, and that is pretty much it - mental make believe. In my opinion, even though I like cis gendered women (girls born with XX chromosomes, vaginas and who fully accept their gender) and have no sexual attraction to men or even penises on T-girls, I'm still not straight: I can't accept my transgenderism and say I'm straight because it obviously falls outside the parameters of heterosexual thoughts and actions... Just my point of view. Most 'straight' men want desperately to hold on to that straightness because they choose it as a way to define their manhood within societal constraints. I ask myself often, is masculinity really that fragile of a construct that we experience so much homophobia and misogyny in our lives? We even see it from women toward men. But then again, this whole labeling of straight/LGBTQ/pansexual/asexual or whateversexual is a reaction to a binary system that excludes all areas in between and sets up a scenario where there are 'normal' individuals and then 'the rest of us.' Human sexuality, constructs of self and gender are far from black and white and if someone choses to believe they are that simple, I opine they are choosing to profoundly limit their human experience. 'Normality' requires adherence to a strict set of parameters, how often in our history have humans found that what we had decided and agreed was absolutely normal and right was, in fact, wrong and precluded us from healthy growth and change?

[Porcha Marie]

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! LOL So my 2 Cents!

I am a transsexual woman/transgender hence your word trannies or let's say transvestite (word from the 1980's similar to calling out an African descendant the N word is offensive. NO OFFENSE! Words like shemale and tranny or pornographic labels only and you were being offensive without wanting to, so here is an education for you that you seek as you had a bad start. However I am a huge part of the transgender community and active in the community and this is what I have witnessed, and what I have learned from others. What is better than hearing the side of the story from a person who lives in the community.

 

First and foremost, this guy wants to be with a transsexual woman, and he is not interested in the pre op part. I am going to get to the bottom line, he is lying to you.

1.) Is he interested in a post op transsexual, no? So then he is lying.

2.) Does he want them pre op, yes, and why? He wants that.

3.) Straight men do this because they want to let you know just a little, what you may see. He is attracted to them. He has to admit it if you see him in public with them. He has to admit attraction on everything others see and say he doesn't like that part to make him still feel straight, such as being accused as 3rd gender curious in all it offers bisexual or gay is embarrassing to him, because truthfully he is saying you do not know what else I like when I am behind closed doors with a transsexual woman and admits all he has to. He could see this post and be mad all he wants, but you are correct, it doesn't make sense because it is not the truth, or he is with naturally born biological females or a post op transsexual. In a way these men are saying "none of your business" what I am into other than, he likes transsexuals.

 

Studies also show on my film on youtube, an HBO biography titled Middle Sexes, that a test was done at a college, where 2 groups were formed, the homophobes, and the no homophobes. A questionnaire on what they do accept and no accept. People were tested then on arousal of porn, and it appeared the homophobes were aroused, as those who are not were not aroused. They say it's a hiding within the inner selves that at times makes them violent towards them or be the most vulgar towards them are the ones that truthfully like them, while those who are comfortable with them usually are not into them in society. It questions their man hood when the penis gets involved when they like that part as the unique about them. In this link here is the video and you skip to 1:08:39 to see yourself, and that's similar to who liking them but to embarrassed to say too much information, and sort of an off anology or comparision but close enough. Simply put he is hiding that and will refuse to admit it until the day he dies. Apparently I can't post the url, but youtube search engine my page titled Jonesporcham and click video HBO Middle sexes over 150K views in HD at time mentioned on the study on homophobes have most arousal and closeted.

 

Now the attraction to transsexuals is simple and I am going to get to the point on this. They are the third gender. Best of both worlds. All men love watching their woman giving them oral sex, they are fixated on watching that in heterosexual sex. This turns into something else with the few that become attracted to T Girls. They are also attracted to femininity. But in turn straight men or fixated in their own penis. And then normally by mere accident they run into transsexual porn by accident and are like ? Then they visit it, and get aroused. Then they visit more often, then they seek them in reality, and normally have encounters and are ashamed usually and keep this in the closet to keep their jobs, partner does not know and can't etc. Everyone has something going on as a fetish, everyone. " T Girl Chasers" are straight and we don't out them as they are nice people to the transgender community, and that's up to them. The other attraction is the difference between a transsexual woman having more sex appeal than a biologically born female isn't just she has the body of 2 sexes. In todays society natural woman are the biggest cross-dresses in our western culture. Jeans, sneakers, t shirts, flat shoes are worn about 90%, basically you just as well should raid your mans closet. VOMIT! Men want sex appeal and boy they got it alright. Men want their partners to dress up like a S##T sometimes trust me. However with a transsexual about 90% of the time, High heel shoes, thigh highs, silk panties, laced bras, ankle bracelets, painted long nails, big boobs, red lipstick, and almost perfection, those adult movies are reality, and in a straight mans mind, the kinkiness to a 3rd gender blows their minds and it's addiction is worse than nicotine, quitting this is almost impossible because the brain has learned you have withdrawals trying to be a good boy and stay away. Then their is the whole LGBT thing. President of the United States even says transgender rights, and they are all coming out like wildfire and the community is larger, and genetic women are in fear of this. Transgender equal rights is the fastest growing equal rights movement in American history and protections now in 42% of American states. Transsexuals are sexy usually, unique and have something a woman just can't offer. And other than typical cliché man and woman porn, the most watched and purchased adult entertainment is????? Transsexual Genre. Some genetic woman chasers are out there, but normally straight men, and unfortunately married men and most have no idea. And when they make LGBT slurs at their wives, it's a cover up for her to never suspect they are one of them chasers.

 

The topic was why do straight men like transsexuals pre-op but not like that they are pre-op? Your instincts were correct, he just is not willing to give up too much information and what he does behind closed doors, IS A CLOSED CLOSET on the trans women's pre-op parts. It makes sense to me that genetic girls dislike transsexuals at a higher rate than acceptance, truthfully it's competition in where you lose on men having unique sexual desires and want high level of sex appeal, and that is with a transsexual for those who are slightly interested in it.

[Porcha Marie]

Since I am living on the female spectrum legally these days full time I can compare another stereotype from my own personal experiences on the whole Mars Venus business. Men are not really jealous of other men unless they are like super metrosexual or something, like woman are envious of other woman. If a woman says to their partner that t girl dresses like a W""ore, or OMG what a S##t she painted that skirt on, she's likely obese or not attractive and she is truthfully worried that she draws more attention to others than she does. Woman look them up and down studying what they wear, from shoes to earrings to make up. If they get a lot of attention their is soon to be another woman that hates her for it. It's a gaudy world on the beauty side of the aisle and in the future generations being with a transsexual will not have to be hidden, than otherwise proud. We are just not there yet as the revolution only began 5 years ago, and it's progressing. Like a woman wanting the experience in college with another woman, the transgender is growing and will be a big part.

 

********This does not reflect solely on me however based on friends, acquaintances and a community, as I am personally an outgoing and a relationship person, but sex appeal and looking good is something that transsexuals really care about with all transgeder persons having different sexual orientations and preferences .

[Capricorn3]

Ancient thread and OP has never returned. Closed.