sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I have been dating this guy (full committment) for six months. We are together about 3-4 days a week. Its really hard for me to get him to open up. I try without being forceful at all. I just throw things out there here and there and nothing. He just won't give me any ideas of how he feels about me. If I ask a specific question he will tell me but he just never comes out and says any kind of feelings. I fell for him about two months into the relationship but never said anything. Last night I asked him if he wanted to be in a relationship because sometimes he just seems to be selfish. He said of course he did. That made me feel half way decent, but I was giving him a way out of our relationship if he truly didn't want to be in one. Anyway, I ended up saying I love you at the end of the night and he didn't say anything. He just gave me a big hug and lots of kisses but I know he doesnt love me which really sucks. Now I don't know what to do. My friends say don't do anything different but I feel rejected. I know I should probably back off and let him think about it. He said he would call me today. Don't know if I should answer and if he makes plans with me do I go and do them. I just really don't want to get any more hurt than I have to since my heart is so invested in him? Any ideas or thoughts? Thanks. Link to comment
Dako Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I can vaguely remember a similar thing happening to me. She said she loved me. I heard, "I'm serious now and expect you to want a house full of kids, a minivan and a mother-in-law. Sell your motorcycle, quit smoking and don't think of walking in with those muddy shoes." I was wrong, but she was patient and understanding enough to cope with my fears. In time I felt at ease without fearing a flood of expectations. Pushing him might make it harder for him to sort it out. Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 so did you fall in love with her? Link to comment
smittenkitten Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Oooh, yuck! I'm so sorry!!! It sounds like you're not getting what you need from this guy. Even if he's not a very expressive person, if he cares about you he'll honor your need to hear him put his feelings in words, and he'll make the effort to do so, no matter how clumsy or awkward he feels. If I were you, I'd back right off. If he calls, just tell him that you're confused about how you feel, and you need to take some time to think. Keep it on you; ie, don't tell him it's because you're not sure how he feels. If you do that, he'll feel pushed, and he'll close down. If you put him off balance a little bit & tell him you need to step back a little bit, he'll have the opportunity to examine his feelings for you. Right now he's got the power in this relationship; he knows he's got you & he doesn't have to do much to keep you... not even something as little as expressing how he feels. Once you've backed off, he'll have the opportunity to miss you. If he finds that he's missing you, he'll realize he doesn't want to lose you, and he'll come back to you & make the effort to prove that he cares. If he doesn't do this, you'll know that it wasn't meant to be. You can allow yourself to grieve and move on. Right now you're stuck in limbo, pulling petals off daisies in the old "He loves me, he loves me not" game. You're all tangled up. You shouldn't have to work this hard to get the love you need and deserve. Hang in there sweetie. Keep your call short & sweet; don't cry on the phone or get into a discussion of how horrible he's making you feel. If you feel the tears welling up, get off the phone immediately (someone's at the door, I gotta go!), then indulge yourself in a good long cry. Take a nap, ask a friend to come over & keep you company, come post here, get a hug, get a cat. He either loves you or he doesn't. Give him the space to figure it out on his own. Hang in there! Link to comment
Ms Omaniac Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 this is just my opinion and my thoughts and i dont know either one of you but since my closest friend in the world is a guy and most of my best friends have been guys, this is why im telling you this... do not leave him. do not feel rejected that he didnt say "i love you" back to you. do not try to force more affection or question him constantly. try not to feel so insecure. guys are much slower to show their feelings and just because he didnt say he loved you...doesnt mean he doesnt. they have feelings that THEY dont even want to admit they have. not all guys are like this...but ive seen MORE guys guard their feelings than show them off. society has really put guys in a corner making them look like sissies if they show feelings or cry or are overly emotional. a lot of guys have hardened up and it took a while for them to get like that. it will take them a while to take those walls down. and just because YOU want him to show his feelings does not remotely speed up the process. they will when they are good and ready. right now...youre just insecure that you like him more than he likes you. i understand that. ive been there also. but right now...just try and enjoy your bf and your relationship. the fact that you two have a commitment is a HUGE deal. if he is actually faithful also says a lot. he is investing his time and his heart on you. try not to make him regret that and let him down. if you try to force it...you only make it all the more longer till he professes his feelings for you. be patient. Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 I know I need to back off. Its just hard because he lives in the apt building next door to me so it makes it that much harder. I can see when he's home or not because his car is parked caddy corner to where I have to park. I was not emotional at all when I told him that I loved him. I am not confused how I feel though. I can keep the conversation short. That should be easy. If he invites me to do something I don't know if I should do it or really let him have space. He did say he would call me today. No call yet though. I just don't want this to drag out. He didn't seem to want to break up or anything though. I don't think you could have gotten the analogy more right "he loves me, he loves me not" haha. Sometimes I really feel like he does, but I guess if he did he would tell me, especially after I told him. I don't know! Link to comment
Dako Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 so did you fall in love with her? Me? I was already completely in love with her at that point. She was everything to me. Even now, with our marriage over, I'll love her until I die, regardless of what the future holds. Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 I know guys are slow with that. I do think he wants to be with me. I just don't want to feel vulnerable and insecure. I am usually pretty hardened when it comes to this stuff but he just gets to me for some reason. I don't want to push him away for sure, but I don't want to block him off either??? What do I do? Link to comment
Mattie Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 You could've just caught him by surprise. Maybe he thought if he said it back, it may have seemed like he said it just because you said it to him. It sounds to me like you are both happy so I would just try and carry on as normal. Don't make him feel pressured into saying it back, because it really doesn't matter. Just enjoy your time together. If a girl told me she loved me, I'd back off if I didn't. Even if I did, I would be a bit freaked out by it. I don't know your boyfriend so I can't really comment on what he's thinking at this point in time, but if he comes back to you, don't feel like you have to be elusive. Hear him out. If he wants to meet up, what's the big deal? Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 i honestly don't know. THat's why I am asking? Being so available?.... should I be. Some say let him miss me, some say act normal, some say tell him i am confused and I need space. Relationships are so complicating. Link to comment
Boricua7 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I agree with Mattie. You probably caught him off guard. I can assure you that him not saying it back DOES NOT mean he doesn't feel the same way. I, personally, did not say "I love you too" after my ex said "I love you" and I loved him very very much. I chose not to say it then because I didn't want him to think I was just saying it back because he said it first or that my response was merely a reflex reaction. I wanted the first time I said it to be because I felt it so strongly that I just couldn't go another second without it coming out of my mouth. My friend didn't say "I love you too" after her boyfriend said he loved her because she was scared. She is not a very open person at all and was not ready to open her heart to her boyfriend at that point. She would only ever tell her boyfriend how she felt when he asked her because she didn't want to get mushy on him and scare him off. She also didn't want to jinx the relationship or end up getting hurt. Just so you know though, they have been together for 3 years now so she obviously did love him back. Give your boyfriend time. When he is ready, he will say that he loves you. Him not being ready does not mean he doesn't already love you. He probably wants to be 100% sure of his feelings before he lets them out. Which, I might add, is a good thing. You don't want someone who will just say "I love you" willy nilly. You want them to mean it so you can be assured that when your bf does say it, it will be because he truly feels that way. Link to comment
Dako Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 The way I read your post, This happened last night. If that's the case, I'd bet he's thinking pretty strongly about his feelings since then. Let him mull it over and see what blossoms. I'm starting to believe guys are different from women in how they communicate. Pushing them to communicate "properly," like women do, is counterproductive, especially if you love the guy. It took years before my ex wife and I figured out how to deal with this difference without laying blame. It was worth learning. Whenever I read a post like this and a woman calls the guy's behavior childish, selfish or cruel, I cringe. Link to comment
annie24 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 how are things otherwise? I remember you posting a few months back, about how he didn't call you for a while. How did things work out? How is your relationship apart from this one issue? Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 ok, so you think its possible he does love me but just isn't saying it yet. Or is it more like he doesn't want to hurt my feelings so he isn't ending the relationship? Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 annie, i ended up calling him. I basically told him that the distant behavior was unacceptable to me and its not what i wanted. He told me he didn't want to lose me and it would never happen again. To make a really long story short Link to comment
annie24 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 ok, so you think its possible he does love me but just isn't saying it yet. Or is it more like he doesn't want to hurt my feelings so he isn't ending the relationship? I have no idea!!! It really depends on what your relationship is like. Like Dako said, it's possible he loves you, but is just afraid of saying the words at this point, or he may be feeling overwhelmed. That's why it's so important to know more about the situation. Is everything else fine? Link to comment
Mattie Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Relationships are so complicating. It's safe to say we all agree with you on that! As I said before, I don't know your boyfriend (or you for that matter) so any advice you get from here give shouldn't be followed directly. It should be used as a guide certainly, but ultimately, how you handle it is up to you because you know better than anybody. Link to comment
annie24 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 annie, i ended up calling him. I basically told him that the distant behavior was unacceptable to me and its not what i wanted. He told me he didn't want to lose me and it would never happen again. To make a really long story short Oh wow! I'm interested to hear this. I wish I had the guts to say something like that!!! Maybe I will if that happens to me ever.... So, you told him that distant behavior wasn't cool, and that you'd be out of there.... and he's been acting good ever since? Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 its super cheeseball but i got the advice from some book. I can't believe it actually worked. I was extremely confident. Non emotional and just told him exactly what I wanted and I didn't want to waste my time. At first he told me he didn't know what he wanted. I just said I want a boyfriend and the "distant behavior" was not what I wanted and I was going to move on. About 20 minutes later he came by to tell me he didnt' want to lose me. It was crazy because I was honestly ready to let him go. As hard as it was going to be I was ready to and I think he saw it. Strange what confidence can do. Sometimes I just need to take my own advice I think. Link to comment
annie24 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Oooohhh! What book? I really think that was the right move. It's good to be honest about how you feel. Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 catch him and keep him......lol i hate relationship propaganda Link to comment
Mattie Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 I was extremely confident. Non emotional and just told him exactly what I wanted and I didn't want to waste my time. At first he told me he didn't know what he wanted. I just said I want a boyfriend and the "distant behavior" was not what I wanted and I was going to move on. About 20 minutes later he came by to tell me he didnt' want to lose me. That's very brave! But it worked right? Interesting... I wonder if should do something along those lines. Link to comment
annie24 Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Ah!!! Ok, I'm a big collector of relationship books Yes, I actually have that one, it does have some helpful tips. Well, yeah, I know it sounds scary, but you're just being honest about how you feel. I think that's really good. I can't say I'm in love with the concept of "catching a guy and keeping him" - it's not like he's a fly in the room, or some bird you are hunting. However, yeah, being honest will definitely trigger strong interest in some people. As for the "love" thing.... gosh.... I haven't the faintest idea what to tell you. Do you feel he loves you? Link to comment
sbrew21 Posted January 16, 2006 Author Share Posted January 16, 2006 no no no, that was a few months back. I do love him a lot. A couple of months ago he didn't call me for almost a week. SO i told him how that's not what I wanted in our relationship. I feel like he does love me but then again I don't know. Link to comment
Dako Posted January 16, 2006 Share Posted January 16, 2006 Sorry for the misunderstanding. I didn't get that from your post. Link to comment
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