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Ah...the just friends dilemma....i know this well...i know about it that is not that i know how to solve it haha...It doesn't sound like you will be satisfied being just friends with this girl...you can tolerate it but if something could happened you would love it to happen...the friends reasoning is a way women try sometimes to blow a guy off without hurting his feelings while still maintaining good relations although she probably wouldn't care less if the guy was her friend or not...if you two are as close as you say, that doens't seem to be the case with you, but it does sorta sound like it's more important to you than to her... Then again if you don't want to be friends with this girl at all, then tell her to her face that she is shallow for not liking you because of your looks and that she will never ever have you as a friend etc etc.. should i point out now that i don't really know what i'm talking about? I am not good enough to solve the just friends dilemma yet...

Paul sounds a lot like me....into sports...don't put the effort into planning romance etc etc...he seems to be a very common person...walk out into the city and you can probably find 200 guys in one hour that like sports and want to have sex with you...depending on how long you've known him, maybe you should find out more depth but if he won't open up, that's gonna be hard... Anthony with you has like 9 things out of 10...in all practicality, you should marry this guy...many married couple lose interest phycally after many years anyways...But one vital part is missing...to you, he is a friend, an activity partner, but not a companion and a person you feel love with...what you have with him sounds like it can last longer than what you have with paul, but it also sounds like you won't be completely fulfilled... Maybe you need a love square instead of a love triangle...if there were only two men in the world you'd have a problem but there are more...depending on how eager you are to settle down permanently, you could probably find a different guy that you find is more complete (but don't get nit-picky)...if you are near that stage where you feel you want to settle down for a good long time (catholicism and atheist isn't bad for relationship just marriage right? i don't know much about that but/...), then you gotta go with what you feel will be longer...

I have a hard time taking the initiative with women and letting them know I am interested (or making it obvious that i am)...i'm frequently too cautious about being too forward...my current issue is this person i find attractive that i'll be working in a group with on a project...if i make my interest known, it may be counterproductive for the work... Do you readers have any advice for me on how i can take initiative better? any insights to the female point of view? former experiences involving people you've had to work with....anything is appreciated...