Does Size Matter?

[Cardinal]

Agreed. Anything that even remotely hints of desparation or clinginess could be a turn-off (for either sex mind you). It is almost the opposite of confidence and self control. It is ironic. By making her happy and providing everything you can for her, sometimes you portray an image counter to what you intended.

 

So long as you have enough confidence in yourself and focused direction wrt where you are headed in life, I don't think your intentions will come accross wrong. It seems so many aspects of relationships are finely interwined.

[Majoraslayer]

I think we strayed from the topic a bit. Seeing as how there have been so many topics posted about this same question, if an administrator or moderator would like this topic would make a good pinned topic. Penis size always seems to be the biggest question in discussions of a sexual nature.

[Carl5000]

you make some good points cardinal. I agree i am bitter, resentful towards ppl i mean i've been rejected on numerious occasions due to my penis size it does make you wonder about humanity! i went out with one very attractive, well-educated, lovely girl(my ex) and even she basically finished with me, due to it - she wasn't enjoying sex very much and she finds intimacy to be very important in relationships- we tried different positions, foreplay but penetrative sex wasn't very satisfying for her. I've had women refuse to have intercourse with me point blank, hurtful comments the lot.

 

as aristotle would have said, in his golden mean go for the middle option, moderation. What has large breasts got to do with anything, anyhow? never heard the comment 'breasts matter' for sex eheh i find her breasts really satisfying during sex lol. I guess , its possible.

[Cardinal]

Carl,

 

Your right, by no means is there a great corrolation between breast and penis size given that breasts are not an integral part of sex (breast sex is another digression I would never mind exploring further, hehe).

 

Are you sure you have been with the right girls? I am fairly long but not too thick. I'd be really disappointed if my girl broke up with me because I wasn't thick enough to fill her up completely. I have a tough time believing a woman would do that mainly because penetrative sex is just one aspect of sex and isn't integral to her achieving an orgasm. What is wrong with incorporating sex toys or a good sleeve to make things longer? I mean, think about it. You have cunnilingus, breast stimulation, anal stimulation, finger, dildos, all other toys. So many different way to achieve the clitoral orgasm.

 

Majoraslayer,

 

I don't know if I speak for everyone, but I don't think penis size is hardly ever the biggest discussion of a sexual nature. From the responses, I hope it has become evident that many women don't care that much (so many say it is how you use it). Carl seems to have hit a small cross section of female society that seems to care enough to break up over it (I wouldn't want to be with a woman who felt like that anyhow. nothing against her. we just wouldn't be compatible).

 

I would rather see a big long sticky at the top of this forum focusing on women's needs. What each woman on this forum wishes we men knew unequivocably. And how to make turn those needs into a thrilling relationship adventure. I don't see a point to focusing on something that most men don't need to improve on anyway.

[FoxLocke]

Look at ron jeremy about 5ft 5in and a porn star

 

Ron Jeremy is an exception(and ugly as friggin hell)to the proverbial rule. Generally, a little guy doesn't pack alot...lol.

 

Also, are we talking about erect or flacid penises??? There is a huge difference...

[Carl5000]

well, the problem is many of the really bad experiences with one night stands at university. Where u go for sex, study and errrr sand eheh plus it also caused problems in a few proper relationships i've had. well, the longest 6months which is a slight positive my ex.

 

I suppose, when it comes to sex im just an immoralist and would have liked to play the field and later settle down. but, if ur small merely lustful relationships r almost impossible. Like i was in my local pub a few days ago. My friend was flirting with these two girls and they joined us at our table and wanted us to go clubbing with them although, they were attractive and seemed the types to be interested in a fun, sexual relationship(could be wrong) i didn't bother going, when really with a reasonable sized penis i would have been looking to score ehh. My friend actually went without me don't sure how he got on Just frustrating when your * * * * size holds your back. yes, these were the wrong types, but still would have given them some loving and they seemed quite keen!.1

[Majoraslayer]

Erect penises is what I was referring to. My ex enjoyed the process of its hardening, so I don't think it really matters until its no longer flaccid.

[Carl5000]

Ron Jeremy is an exception(and ugly as friggin hell)to the proverbial rule. Generally, a little guy doesn't pack alot...lol.

 

Also, are we talking about erect or flacid penises??? There is a huge difference...

 

foxlocke it seems u don't know what your talking about? i aint trying to be patronising. Even look at big brother there is a guy with a massive * * * * apparently(pete). he must be about 5ft 6 and really skinny.

 

There can't be taht many exceptions to the rule, myself the other topic starter r 6ft 2 and small. The biggest guy in teh showers at my school was only of average build and height yet huge. John Falcon who is 13inches erect is 5ft 8ins a small guy.

 

no correlation what so EVER!!!!

[Cardinal]

Part of it has to depend on what you like to do. When it comes to sexual debauchery, I am game for most things. In that situation I would have gone out and had a good time.

 

I would have also done everything in my power to make sure the lady I was with knew what I liked. That above all when it comes to sexual pleasure, there is nothing more satisfying for me than giving a lady cunnilingus (particularly by genuinely wanting to and asking nothing in return).

 

I feel when it comes to pure sexual gratification, if I can give her some earth shattering orgasms with my hands and tongue....there hasn't been, isn't and won't be anything she would ever say bad about my abilities in bed. So go have a blast!

[saltwatergirl]

Women would rather have a good man with good bed skills and a wicked tongue that knows its way around.

 

 

AMEN to that!!

 

Salt

[AWomanScorned]

Size matters more to men than it does to women. My best friend and I discuss penis size all the time. She refuses to be intimate with a man who isn't a certain length and width ~lol~.

 

A huge penis is overrated. My ex-husband was a very large man. When he wasn't aroused it was 9 inches(I stopped counting when he had an erection). I'm a tall woman (5'10), but his penis intimidated me the first time we were intimate. He went slow though. After getting used to it it was very pleasurable experience. However, he would go too fast and too deep sometimes and it was really painful. At times it felt like I had a wooden post being rammed into me. So it can be a blessing and a curse depending upon who you ask.

 

I Later became involved with a man average in length and width. He was a better lover than my ex because he wasn't infatuated with the idea that only "Tarzan"(my ex's pet name for his) could satisfy a woman. Penetration does feel very good but it's only 30% of the sexual experience for me. I enjoy foreplay, oral, and kissing. Well endowed men tend to be a bit more arrogant. They think that's all it takes to satisfy their partner. I appreciate a man who can arouse my entire body, not just my vagina.

[canuckhead]

i think some women care...some really don't. go search for the threads about what qualities women wants in a guy/boyfriend. or find a thread about what a girl loves about their boyfriends. none of them ever says penis size! "i love my bf becuz hes sweet, caring, and has a big penis"...u rarely hear that (with some exceptions, and these r the women that care about size).

[FoxLocke]

foxlocke it seems u don't know what your talking about? i aint trying to be patronising. Even look at big brother there is a guy with a massive * * * * apparently(pete). he must be about 5ft 6 and really skinny.

 

There can't be taht many exceptions to the rule, myself the other topic starter r 6ft 2 and small. The biggest guy in teh showers at my school was only of average build and height yet huge. John Falcon who is 13inches erect is 5ft 8ins a small guy.

 

no correlation what so EVER!!!!

 

Carl, maybe you ought to lay off on watching so much porn. Your standards for yourself and others are unrealistic...

You actually think you are the only guy out there not hung like a friggin horse? I imagine for every Ron Jeremy(who had to have SOMETHING to compensate for the fact that he is physically repulsive), there are a dozen guys that are average and below...

[TheFallenShadow]

Aye, as i see it, there are many out there that say size does matter, others dont.

 

I myself try and make my lady friend happy before me, why? because it is important to me to know that she is happy. in which inturn makes me happy, and romance and intimacy outside of the bedroom is as important was well.

 

And as its stand, i do try and make my lady as happy as i can, when i can, and worship the ground she walks on...oh yea i do...she may not think it, because of are hectic schedules but i do.

 

but on the flip side of it to, i think that it is important to have romance go the other way as well. because to deeply love some one you give without question and ask nothing in return, but as it is, it is awesome when recipracated (Spelling)...

 

so in the end, does size matter? i think it is up to that person to decide that. that like saying if a women has big breast or not? does it matter? i think that it is what they are attached to? so as if the whole person, not just a certain part of them...

[Majoraslayer]

Well at least I have mad skillz when it comes to sex then. I have yet to have sex when my partner didn't reach a raging orgasm, and in my opinion thats what its all about. If you care about the other person, you'll always try to concentrate on their needs before your own by nature.

[Royltnxile]

these two girls and they joined us at our table and wanted us to go clubbing with them although, they were attractive and seemed the types to be interested in a fun, sexual relationship(could be wrong) i didn't bother going, when really with a reasonable sized penis i would have been looking to score ehh. My friend actually went without me don't sure how he got on Just frustrating when your * * * * size holds your back. yes, these were the wrong types, but still would have given them some loving and they seemed quite keen!.1

 

This bit says it all. This is your self esteem and confidence problem, not a question of women rejecting you because of your size. Those chicks were interested in hanging with you and automatically assumed that you weren't packing enough manhood to attract them. Not their problem, you need to get some confidence and go for it! I said it on another thread, but maybe your attitude about the size of your member is the problem. YOU are making the big deal about it, not the women. No woman wants to hear a guy apologize for his size because it's insecurity and shows lack of confindence...and tha'ts not attractive. Show her what you can do with your "little guy" rather than miss opportunities because you think it's not enough to satisfy. Exhibit confidence, pay attention to detail, be attentive as a lover, and you might be surprised to find out that your size won't even be an issue to the right woman.

[Carl5000]

well, isn't my low self esteem , confidence linked to having a small penis? do u believe if i had an 8incher and got lots of positive feedback from past sexual experiences, media etc i would still have low confidence and self esteem with women? i doubt it somehow. Still, nice reply and some good advice. I just disagree with the first few lines though.

 

btw, my self esteem, confidence is more than adequate in other areas of my life, depending on how successful i've been and how i judge my ability to do certain things. if say you got 3 A's at A-level your self esteem, confidence of suceeding at degree level would be higher on most occasions than the guy who got 3 F's its just logical and that applies to my penis size.

[Cardinal]

Carl,

 

You do have a compelling argument. I am super confident in many areas of life. I think that confidence stems from the fact that I tend to plan well. And whatever it is I am trying to accomplish, I know in my mind it is realistically possible. But I have several individual areas where I am not confident (and based for example on my sales skills in business I have no reason to be confident)

 

There is a difference between confidence and arrogance, and I am not talking about a difference in personality. Someone who is confident can see each step from start to finish when it comes to achieving a particular goal. They may also have positive experiential background like you mention.

 

So in sum, I like the argument you presented.

[Question Mark]

A large component of human sexuality isn't just the sex act, but the competition. Guys like to show other guys how desirable the partners they can attract are, and vice versa.

 

Guys will discuss their hookups and flings - the hotter and more often, the more envious admiration is afforded to that guy, and he gets an ego boost.

 

Women have got to discuss this stuff too, right? You have sex, your girlfriends ask you about it the next day...how was it...how big was he...seems like there'd be a definite ego boost in admitting that you were able to get a more well-endowed fella, all other things considered.

 

Like it or not, how we are viewed by others is a huge part of our self-esteem complex. Over time, a woman who is reinforced by the envy of her friends whenever she gets with a larger guy is probably going to develop a preference for the well-hung, yes?

 

Maybe it's not the size of the boat, etc, etc, but from a purely socio-sexual point of view, I'd say size does matter, not only to men but also to women because we constantly competing with each other for status, and size happens to be one of the standards we've picked to measure ourselves by.

 

But then again, I'm a guy...am I wrong?

[winter2005]

And the final answer is .... and will always be.. Yes size does matter.... and all us girls know that!! think of the word penetration?

[winter2005]

lol not that type of size!! thats extreme.. but u know what i meannnn!

[BrokenWingedFaery]

It's actually not extreme, seeing as the average female has a depth of 4-6 inches, give or take, so the 8 incher that men seem to wish to possess could be quite unpleasent.

[winter2005]

LoL if you say so

[BrokenWingedFaery]

I do indeed say so and I doubt I'm the only one.

[Cbert]

yea but how small is too small