Pornagraphy Related Question/Help

[sweet_one]

For any men that may be out there, I hope you can answer my question. I was wondering why a 43 year old man/grandfather prefers to go into internet sites that are titled "Teen" sites. Is this typical behaviour for men when looking at pornagraphy? Should I be worried?

 

Thanks.

 

sweet_one

[RayKay]

I am going to say because the "teen" sites often have younger girls guaranteed (I would argue that many of them can hardly be called teenagers..but whatever). They usually appear to be 18-30 and dressed up to look younger in my opinion, but I guess it guarantees a younger set of girls than if you went to random ones. Seems a LOT of sites will say teen in them to attract more people who want to look at younger (not necessarily teenage) girls.

 

I mean, they should all be over 18 at least...(I guess not always the case, but it should be the case usually!).

[Hope75]

sweet_one,

 

You are the one who just married the guy who asked you to leave the hosue so he could watch porn, right??

 

What's this?? Didn't you guys work this out before you got married??

 

You just posted that things were much better....now he's looking at jailbait porn?

 

Yikes!

[lillady898]

Regardless of how old these girls are in real life, I think the fact that a man is out there specifically searching for pornographic photos of younger girls is wrong. Even if they're not really that age... It's just the idea that he gets turned on by the fact that girls are young and "fresh." It would definetly worry me. When I was younger, my sister was on a travel team... Which means everyone traveled and young girls were constantly around this coach. We had recently found out that this coach was charged for looking at teen porn. That really scares me, because I don't even want to know if anything was going on in this man's imagination around his young 13-14 year old team. And my sister! That in itself is wrong enough for me. It makes me sick.

[Day_Walker]

It seems to me that he is attracted to females in the age range of 18-30 or typically. The bottom line is that this age range is typically thought of when women are in their prime physical state. Now this doesnt necessarily have to be true but that is the perception that in this age group women still look young and also have the attributes that young women have.

[sweet_one]

Yes, I was the one and no this isn't a recent development; I've known about this for a while, however now that he's sharing his "private" time with me, I've noticed that when he get's the opportunity this is what he looks at, where before it was a mixture of teen and adult. I think it's because when we watch porn together it's obviously adult related material, so now he has to get his fix on the "teen" stuff. I've looked at the pics that he downloads and some of them look young (right on the edge, where you could say yea, maybe 18), but alot of them look early 20's. Some of the stuff he downloads is just dumb because these girls are just inexperienced and you can tell they are just playing along. I don't get it.

 

I was just wondering if this is normal behaviour.

[BellaDonna]

I can see why you would be bothered by it. Even though they may be of legal age, they are marketed as "teens" and it's disturbing.

 

However, I don't think it's "abnormal" for an older man to want to look at younger women- Men are very visual. They do this same sort of thing in strip clubs, etc, so it's probably better that it's online and not in person.

 

I guess you have to look at how often he does this and whether it is an "addiction" or not, and if he appears to be checking out "teens" in real life. If he has to look at this type of material all of the time, then I would think there is something a little off. The only positive thing I can see is that he doesn't hide it from you, so it could just be a fantasy he's trying to share.

[sweet_one]

I didn't look at it that way. What you said makes perfect sense........now that were watching porn together, it's not just his little secret, so it's not as exciting. He doesn't know that I know about this "teen" thing, so it's probably very exciting for him. I just worry that he may download something underage and get busted for it. But if that's what happens, maybe it's for the best. Maybe then he'll learn his lesson.

[Mr Meh]

actually it's called a fetish and it really is up to an individual (and their worried partner) whether it is 'normal'. Since I have a 16 year old daughter, the idea of looking at 'teen' sites is quite uncomfortable for me as a fetish. Looking at attractive young women in itself is not. It's all about the context. Heck I used to have sex with teenagers all the time, so it's not a big deal for me.

 

btw actual underage porn is very difficult to locate let alone stumble accross. You can be guaranteed that these girls are at least 18 (or lying, which would make it kind of like sneaking into the pub with fake id). the guys making money off this don't want to be shut down.

It's refreshing to see that you support your husband by hoping he does time for kiddie porn.

[sweet_one]

Mr Meh, don't get me wrong. I hope to hell he's not doing kiddie porn and from everything I've seen, he's not, but just like any other man, if he was it's wrong. I have a teenage daughter myself (she does not live with us) and I know I wouldn't want some pervert looking at her. All I meant was that if he was looking at kiddie porn, he shouldn't be, as well an any other man on the planet. I have been through hell with him on this porn topic and he and I have made huge improvements, but I won't ever support kiddie porn.

 

sweet_one

[someguy69]

All men of any age have an eye for "fresh ripe" female sexuality.

 

A woman between 18 and 22 is exceedingly fertile, and most men produce viable sperm until the day they die.

 

It's purely the natural propagation of the species that men are attracted to signs of female fertility.

[BellaDonna]

All men of any age have an eye for "fresh ripe" female sexuality.

 

A woman between 18 and 22 is exceedingly fertile, and most men produce viable sperm until the day they die.

 

It's purely the natural propagation of the species that men are attracted to signs of female fertility.

 

That's an evolutionary perspective, ONE way of looking at it- however it leaves out important factors such as social influence, morality, etc. which make us different from simply being animals/species. I wouldn't stereotype that "All men or any age" want to look at 18-22 year-olds, nor would I think it was an acceptable reason for this husband's behavior.

[someguy69]

That's an evolutionary perspective, ONE way of looking at it- however it leaves out important factors such as social influence, morality, etc. which make us different from simply being animals/species. I wouldn't stereotype that "All men or any age" want to look at 18-22 year-olds, nor would I think it was an acceptable reason for this husband's behavior.

 

All men at any age have an ingrained natural instinctive eye for young, fertile women regardless of the other factors you mention.

 

Certainly so called "morality" can disguise this, but it essentially it's just a facade... an act... or worse yet, denial, or blocked to the point where they are apparently unaware of their own unconscious desire... and yes, btw, a person most certainly can be disgusted by their own desires.

 

Of course plenty of men have enough "self control" to avoid indulging in pornography or fantasies about attractive young women, but it is still denial of the underlying inherent desire.

[lillady898]

 

All men at any age have an ingrained natural instinctive eye for young, fertile women regardless of the other factors you mention.

 

Certainly so called "morality" can disguise this, but it essentially it's just a facade... an act... or worse yet, denial, or blocked to the point where they are apparently unaware of their own unconscious desire... and yes, btw, a person most certainly can be disgusted by their own desires.

 

Of course plenty of men have enough "self control" to avoid indulging in pornography or fantasies about attractive young women, but it is still denial of the underlying inherent desire.

 

I highly doubt that ALL men are this sick and twisted. There may be many... but I highly doubt all of them are peverts. I think that this is just an excuse for some men to justify there own perverse desires and imagination. By simply saying, "That's just the nature of men. Any man who says he doesn't like it is in denial." People accuse others of doing things that they themselves are guilty of.

[Hope75]

All men at any age have an ingrained natural instinctive eye for young, fertile women regardless of the other factors you mention.

 

Certainly so called "morality" can disguise this, but it essentially it's just a facade... an act... or worse yet, denial, or blocked to the point where they are apparently unaware of their own unconscious desire... and yes, btw, a person most certainly can be disgusted by their own desires.

 

Of course plenty of men have enough "self control" to avoid indulging in pornography or fantasies about attractive young women, but it is still denial of the underlying inherent desire.

 

That's a pretty broad generlization, wouldn't you say? I'd say lots of men might, but I certainly would not agree that all men do.

[OceanEyes]

Remember ladies those three words that will justify anything: "I'm a guy".

[BellaDonna]

I suppose cheating then is just their desire to spread their seed then huh?

You're pretty much making men sound like a bunch of Neanderthals who are at the whim of their hormones.

I thought we'd evolved higher by now.

I can see a nice looking man and not think about having babies with him. Wouldn't my natural instincts lead me to wanting babies with him?

 

How then do you explain the men who aren't turned on by teens?

How do you explain the men who are turned on by other men?

What instinctual need can you cite for men turned on by sex with animals

 

Very well said. I would also add that Modern Life is very different from Stone Age life. If all men are set out to spread their sperm to young fertile women then I guess many of them are not getting it right because they are wearing condoms and sleeping with women on birth control. Why do men get vasectomies or choose not to have children? If their ultimate unconscious goal is to spread their seed, Modern men must be dumb then. I mean, why would they want oral sex so much, it's not going to result in a pregnancy. (CALL TO ALL WOMEN- don't bother giving oral sex anymore, your man's desire for it is a facade, he is really only here to get you pregnant) To reduce men as sperm shooters is quite degrading to the "species" and eliminates free will from the picture.

 

Again, an evolutionary perspective has it place with other THEORIES...but it's important to realize that it is just a THEORY....not an absolute flawless dogma from which we can stereotype all of humanity. If we're all just trying to survive and to spead our genes, does that mean murder, rape, and racism is ok?

 

Of course biology plays a role in behavior, but to reduce the human experience only to biologial factors is absurd. We're born into an environment and both nature and nurture work together to shape us. To ignore the aspects of life that make us different from monkeys, such as love, morality, and sprituality, and call them a "facade" is inaccurate.

 

A facade is defined as an artifical and deceiptful front, if morality is such a front, why have centuries and centuries of humans written about morality? Why have people died for their faith as martyrs (killing themselves and their sperm?) If it's only a fake cover-up, why are we so passionate about it?

 

I don't want to steer this post away from the issue at hand, which is a women distressed about her husband's obsession with "teen" porn. All I can say is that if I were in her shoes, I would not accept the excuse that it's ok for her husband to do this, even when it bothers her, because he is simply "being a man", and men want to look at 18-22 year olds because they're good targets to shoot sperm at.

 

Give me a break! lol

 

BellaDonna

[sweet_one]

Mr. Meh,

 

Your are correct; the legal age is eighteen and some young women do have beautiful bodies. I've seen many pictures and I understand why a man would want to look at these young things, however I was worried about the fine line of the ages of these girls. Like I said before, I have a teenage daughter and I wouldn't want her exposed in this way.

 

Alot of women are insecure, however I am not one of those and my husband assists me in this area. I'm 38 years old and have had two children and three grandchildren. I'm small and petite and am told everyday that I look about 25. My husband thinks I'm beautiful and has on numerous occasions posted pictures of me on one of our favorite websites and I get alot of positive feedback from viewers. So as you can see, I don't lack in this area. My inquiry has nothing to do with insecurity.

 

sweet_one

[Mr Meh]

Like I said before, I have a teenage daughter and I wouldn't want her exposed in this way.

 

Me too and I certainly wouldn't want her to get into this industry, and like I said in an earlier post the concept of looking at teens because they are teens certainly makes me uncomfortable now that she is a teenager. My taste actually runs to older women anyway, so the issue is moot in my case.

 

Alot of women are insecure, however I am not one of those and my husband assists me in this area. I'm 38 years old and have had two children and three grandchildren. I'm small and petite and am told everyday that I look about 25. My husband thinks I'm beautiful and has on numerous occasions posted pictures of me on one of our favorite websites and I get alot of positive feedback from viewers. So as you can see, I don't lack in this area.

 

Like I said my tastes run to older women..so... uh ..know any good links?

Glad to see your husband gives you compliments and finds you attractive. Clearly he is viewing the younger women to scoff at how their beauty pales in comparison to his "mature" honey. 8)

 

My inquiry has nothing to do with insecurity.

 

Good, just for the record I wasn't targeting you with that remark!

[lillady898]

Uptight and prude? I just don't think it's right for a man to feel attracted to a female because she looks young, "fresh," and innocent. Well, I'm sorry for being so judgemental on someone who likes the young ones. I REALLY take this whole situation to heart seeing as how I've seen the worst side of a man's obsession with the young ones. And my sister, along with other young females, was traveling with the pervert. It just really hits close to home and I think it's unacceptable. I'm open in many other ways, just not when it comes to a guys attraction to innocence. And I know that ALL guys are not attracted to this.

 

You don't know me... Please don't call me judgemental if you yourself are judging me. I didn't personally attack you or your character, but rather the character of those who are taking this terrible obbsession to the next level, which many people do.

 

Look at as many pornographies of older women, men, or whatever you're into. But, I just think teen porn is wrong and that is my beleif due to my experiences. I know one thing leads to the next, and if men are as "uncontrollable" due to their nature... Then it will...

[Mr Meh]

You don't know me... Please don't call me judgemental if you yourself are judging me. I didn't personally attack you or your character, but rather the character of those who are taking this terrible obbsession to the next level, which many people do

.

 

It seemed you were branding anyone who looks at LEGAL pictures of young women as sick and twisted perverts, and basing it on an assumption that it will lead to a progressive state of perversion. That's an opinion which seems to be based on ONE past experience your sister had with a "pervert". I was merely stooping to your level to see if name calling would offend, which clearly it did. Childish but sometimes effective.

[lillady898]

Obviously you've never been through an experience where a person close to you was in close quaters with someone put in jail for this... It's something I feel very very strongly against and am very sensitive to. To a point where I think after exactly a year today, I am driven to leave the forum because apparently if this is what the forum is resorting to (justifying teen porn and saying it's wrong to believe something based on past experiences), it's not something I want to be a part of.

[sweet_one]

Mr. Meh,

 

Well I hardly think that's why he's looking at teenage porn, but thanks for attempting to make me feel better. I'll just try to keep my eyes and ears open, but not worry about it too much. I do believe these girls are of age or these sites wouldn't be aloud to operate.

 

If you want to pm me I will give you a great site to go into, but will not give you my secret name. Sorry.

 

sweet_one

[Mr Meh]

Is it Rumpelstiltskin?

[someguy69]

Women are statistically attracted to strong, "bad boy" type men during ovulation, and attacted to caring, nuturing men the rest of the time.

 

Women's instincts come from wanting the best of both worlds... the genetic material from the best physical stock, and a "nice guy" to help raise the kids.

 

These things are all scientifically documented. Acting upon these impulses is a completely different story.