sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 If youre a woman and and a guy slept with you and you later found out he had applied pick up artist tricks on you in order to **** you, how would you feel? Link to comment
metrogirl Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I don't think his pick up artist tactics really make a difference. It's not like he can magically say something that is going to sway my answer one way or another. Link to comment
agent1607307371 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Here's a secret. Women know about PUA techs and can see them from the moon. Sometimes trying to trick women into sleeping with you just tricks you into thinking women need to be tricked. Link to comment
buddha55 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Aren't the pua artist tricks just basically help for guys with no soci skills? If someone told me blatant lies about themselves to get into bed with me (about their job, lifestyle, etc) then I would be angry. If they used a dating coach or PUA tricks I wouldn't be upset.... Picking someone up is just getting your foot in the door to hopefully starting a relationship (if that's the intent) Link to comment
BritterSweet Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Some advice from Pick Up Artists is valid and good, like overcoming your nervousness and being cheerful to present yourself as "Mr. Awesome Fun." Or if you don't succeed with one woman, don't sweat it and just move on to the next. But that's probably not what you're referring to. It's most likely the sleazier stuff. If you're asking what our reaction would be to being tricked into sex we wouldn't have wanted otherwise, the answer should be pretty obvious. Link to comment
quirky Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'd feel sad for him that he couldn't just be himself. Wouldn't happen with me though, I am mega intuitive and complex for guys to trick me plus I don't like ordinary guys. Link to comment
sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 It's not like he can magically say something that is going to sway my answer one way or another. how would you know though? Link to comment
sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'd feel sad for him that he couldn't just be himself. Wouldn't happen with me though, I am mega intuitive and complex for guys to trick me plus I don't like ordinary guys. yeh but if it works for most women, then thats good enough. It doesnt have to work for every woman. Link to comment
sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 How would I find out? if he told you for example. Or through a friend. Any number of ways you could find out Link to comment
pl3asehelp Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'd feel sad for him that he couldn't just be himself. Wouldn't happen with me though, I am mega intuitive and complex for guys to trick me plus I don't like ordinary guys. This is exactly why the pua stuff works so well. If most guys just be themselves, well, they're ordinary. PUA teaches you to put on an act to pretend you're some super awesome fun guy to get women and it works, at least as far as getting a first date or a one night stand. Once she finds out he's actually just ordinary and was acting then it all unravels. Link to comment
blueidealist24 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 If he just slept with me and never talked to me again, I'd be really angry. If we ended up having a relationship and I actually liked him, I wouldn't care as much (although I would be still a bit miffed). I don't think I'd dump a person over it.. Link to comment
quirky Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'd think he's ordinary IF he did the PUA trick cos that would make him more generic. Generic in the sense that he's not comfortable with himself and his vulnerability, many people aren't. Some awkwardness is endearing I think. Link to comment
BritterSweet Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 If this thread is anything like the last one the OP started, I don't see things going well. OP, what are you trying to accomplish with this? Link to comment
HeatherB Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I've never been in the market to be picked up. But to go along with the hypothetical...I guess it would depend on how open and honest he had been about his intentions about the future. Not just in words, but in implications and body language. If he presented sex as a great fun one time event and then left it up to me to accept or decline, then I guess I'd have no hard feelings. I'd admire his skill. But if he lied, I'd have nothing but contempt for him. And I would warn everyone I knew about him. Go ahead and learn to flirt, but don't lie in any fashion for short term gain. Not only will it ruin your reputation, it will make it impossible to follow up with any high quality woman you might want for a relationship. Link to comment
rapunzel Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 If youre a woman and and a guy slept with you and you later found out he had applied pick up artist tricks on you in order to **** you, how would you feel? Would it not be helpful to ask yourself why you fell for the PUA tricks, if indeed they were implemented solely to bed you? Link to comment
sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 This is exactly why the pua stuff works so well. If most guys just be themselves, well, they're ordinary. PUA teaches you to put on an act to pretend you're some super awesome fun guy to get women and it works, at least as far as getting a first date or a one night stand. Once she finds out he's actually just ordinary and was acting then it all unravels. so what if it unravels? Theres plenty more women who will fall for it and plenty more lays Link to comment
sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 Would it not be helpful to ask yourself why you fell for the PUA tricks, if indeed they were implemented solely to bed you? dont know what youre talking about Link to comment
pl3asehelp Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 so what if it unravels? Theres plenty more women who will fall for it and plenty more lays Depends on what you're looking for. For me it was never a challenge to get women to sleep with me, so I got bored of it and have since looked for much more from my interactions with women. If you're a guy who didn't get much in high school or college, I guess I can see how you'd still be wanting to do this because sex is still new to you and/or hard to come by, hence your need to run a scam to get it. Link to comment
sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 Depends on what you're looking for. For me it was never a challenge to get women to sleep with me, so I got bored of it and have since looked for much more from my interactions with women. If you're a guy who didn't get much in high school or college, I guess I can see how you'd still be wanting to do this because sex is still new to you and/or hard to come by, hence your need to run a scam to get it. well its hard for every guy thats why theres a whole community of PUA dedicated to scamming women. Its usually the ones who act like its easy to get that arent getting any at all. Link to comment
pl3asehelp Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 well its hard for every guy thats why theres a whole community of PUA dedicated to scamming women. Its usually the ones who act like its easy to get that arent getting any at all. It is not hard for every guy, it's hard for guys that don't have it by just being themselves. I've never had a dry spell of more than a week for the last 20 years and never put any effort into it either. Exercise, be yourself if yourself isn't a douche - that is all. Link to comment
sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 It is not hard for every guy, it's hard for guys that don't have it by just being themselves. I've never had a dry spell of more than a week for the last 20 years and never put any effort into it either. Exercise, be yourself if yourself isn't a douche - that is all. well there is no proof of what you are saying and we cant see what these women youve scammed look like. So unless you can provide proof its all invalid isnt it. If it was so easy you would not have had a dry spell even for one night. One week is still quite a long time to go without it. Link to comment
pl3asehelp Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 well there is no proof of what you are saying and we cant see what these women youve scammed look like. So unless you can provide proof its all invalid isnt it. If it was so easy you would not have had a dry spell even for one night. One week is still quite a long time to go without it. I didn't say I ever scammed anyone and I could go years without sex if that had to happen, no biggie. There are many other things in life I enjoy just as much if not more. It's hardly my focus, which is probably why it's easy. When I was a kid sex was a big deal, but after years and years of getting plenty of it, it's like anything else, just something that happens - nothing to get overly excited about. Link to comment
sickandangry Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 I didn't say I ever scammed anyone and I could go years without sex if that had to happen, no biggie. There are many other things in life I enjoy just as much if not more. It's hardly my focus, which is probably why it's easy. theres a whole community of men who have turned to PUA because nothing else had worked for them. And if you look on this forum you will see how difficult it is for guys to even get a date and eventually get laid if at all. Its a bit arrogant to say its easy for every guy when you cant speak for every guy. Just consider yourself lucky if youve had more than others. Link to comment
jonny15 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 This is exactly why the pua stuff works so well. If most guys just be themselves, well, they're ordinary. PUA teaches you to put on an act to pretend you're some super awesome fun guy to get women and it works, at least as far as getting a first date or a one night stand. Once she finds out he's actually just ordinary and was acting then it all unravels. That is pretty embarrising for any guy to try to do. I don't like fakeness, and this pua garbage is the epitome of it. Link to comment
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