thanks people for all those great advice.....luckystar, u always have informative inputs....sfmike, i have followed ur posts and i feel for u cuz i know how painful it is to want something that doesn't want u back. i agree no contact is good but how long should i keep this up.....i thought the more times we hang out the more chances that she's going to realize "hey he's actually fun to be with so maybe i was wrong"....what do u guys think? plus me ex is very stubborn....she has alot of pride....it wil take alot for her to call me....does no contact still work here? i know i have to move on at the same time but some reason i just feel that the more times we see each other the closer we're going to get...what do u guys think?...thanks guys...u guys r great.