What PUA books should I get?

[LightbulbSun]

I'm a shy guy and awkward around women. From what I've heard, PUA seems to be the only thing that will help me break out of this.

 

So that being said, what PUA books should I get first? I've heard of The Game and The Mystery Method...are those good ones to buy?

[Go Habs Go]

The thing with PUA advice is while they will help be successful with women initially, they offer no help whatsoever when it comes to long-term relationships. Many of those authors encourage guys to treat women like crap and sadly, it works a good portion of the time. The advice will show you how to break the ice and get a woman into bed.

 

Now if that's your intention, it's perfect for you. If you're looking for a relationship, don't give it a second thought. For you, you seem like you just want to learn how to break the ice, so The Game or The Mystery Method should work fine.

[Dako]

I'm reading The Game right now, but only as an armchair traveler.

It's kinda funny.

[Siriana]

Well, try to find torrent and download a copy for free.

Moral? no

practical? yes.

[dog stevens]

I read The Game. While it was a fun read, it didn't help me at all. The thing with PUA books is that they make it seem so planned. If you're going to plan what you do with women, then nothing will happen. Real game is natural, not planned.

[Cognitive_Canine]

I hope something helps you out LBS. I think you should try to get sample readings from each and see which text clicks with you best.

[tso]

To the OP,

 

I think you just need to have sex. It doesn't matter who you get it (apart from rape of course), if you have to pay for it pay for it. Once you've had sex the once, you'll most likely be more confident around women.

 

You seem miserable because you're a virgin. So get rid of your virginity, once that's gone, you can concentrate on getting a women for a relationship.

 

If you're waiting for "the right one", you could end up being a 50 or 60 year old virgin.

[Go Habs Go]

To the OP,

 

I think you just need to have sex. It doesn't matter who you get it (apart from rape of course), if you have to pay for it pay for it. Once you've had sex the once, you'll most likely be more confident around women.

 

You seem miserable because you're a virgin. So get rid of your virginity, once that's gone, you can concentrate on getting a women for a relationship.

 

If you're waiting for "the right one", you could end up being a 50 or 60 year old virgin.

 

 

That's the worst thing he can do. Then he's going to feel cheap and worthless, and he's going to feel 10x worse.

[tso]

That's the worst thing he can do. Then he's going to feel cheap and worthless, and he's going to feel 10x worse.

 

He won't be a virgin anymore.

 

I pay for it and I don't feel cheap or worthless.

[Go Habs Go]

He won't be a virgin anymore.

 

I pay for it and I don't feel cheap or worthless.

 

 

If you pay for sex and don't feel cheap, that's pretty sad. That's pretty much saying you can't get it anywhere else. I'd rather never have sex again than have to pay for it.

[Siriana]

I just downloaded the game and it's childish.

I downloaded No more mr. nice guy and it seems more mature.

[Pegasus]

Well, try to find torrent and download a copy for free.

Moral? no

practical? yes.

 

Legal? No.

 

 

OP, take a look at Carlos Xuma books and articles. They are pretty solid. Also, don't take all the stuff you read in PUA books too literal.

[tso]

If you pay for sex and don't feel cheap, that's pretty sad. That's pretty much saying you can't get it anywhere else. I'd rather never have sex again than have to pay for it.

 

I can get sex if I want. I don't want people to know I have sex, I despise sex and prefer porn, but occasionally I'll indulge in it.

 

Besides, every time you offer affection or buy a women you fancy a drink, you're paying for sex, just in a different way.

 

Anyway, this thread is about the OP.

[Go Habs Go]

I can get sex if I want. I do want people to know I have sex, I despise sex and prefer porn, but occasionally I'll indulge in it.

 

 

Why do you care what others think? Screw 'em!

 

 

Besides, every time you offer affection or buy a women you fancy a drink, you're paying for sex, just in a different way.

 

 

I would never buy a woman a drink. It's outdated and a bunch of guys have done the same. You have to separate yourself from the rest.

 

 

Anyway, this thread is about the OP.

 

 

And I shared my input. If he simply wants to break the ice, the advice is perfect. Anything more than that and he's in for a lot of trouble.

[tso]

 

 

 

And I shared my input. If he simply wants to break the ice, the advice is perfect. Anything more than that and he's in for a lot of trouble.

 

One of the main reasons the OP can't get a GF is because he feels insecure because he's a virgin. I'm not saying he has to live a life of only paying for sex. But, If I were him, in that situation, I would consider using an escort, even if it's just the once. At least he'd no longer be a virgin. Then he can concentrate on looking for a woman, knowing at least that the virginity obstacle is out of the way.

 

There's a lot of men out there who have lost their virginity to a prostitute/escort. He wouldn't be the first and he won't be the last.

[Go Habs Go]

One of the main reasons the OP can't get a GF is because he feels insecure because he's a virgin. I'm not saying he has to live a life of only paying for sex. But, If I were him, in that situation, I would consider using an escort, even if it's just the once. At least he'd no longer be a virgin. Then he can concentrate on looking for a woman, knowing at least that the virginity obstacle is out of the way.

 

 

In the long run, his virginity will have been the least of his problems.

 

 

There's a lot of men out there who have lost their virginity to a prostitute/escort. He wouldn't be the first and he won't be the last.

 

 

That's sad.

[tso]

In the long run, his virginity will have been the least of his problems.

 

Not if he keeps quiet

 

 

 

 

 

That's sad.

 

Depends how you look at it. I think it's sad that someone has to be emotionally invested in someone, to pay fortunes out on dates, just for a screw.

 

Sex is sex, doesn't matter how you get it, as long as it's within the law and not rape it's not a problem.

[Anthropic]

I've read "The Game", I always thought it was supposed to be more documentary than a how to manual. It was hilarious though. I liked the Paris Hilton story, and Courtney Love, wow, she is totally cool.

[Siriana]

Legal? No.

 

 

heh ....................

[Dako]

Paying for it is sad.

I've been propositioned by hookers.

Last time I told her she should pay me for my service.

Why not?

[LightbulbSun]

Well, I got Double Your Dating. I'm going to read through it.

 

Sirana, I see nothing wrong with downloading the things. Mystery and Neil Strauss are probably making enough money off of awkward men's emotions and insecurities. They don't need my money.

 

tso, as far as paying for it goes, no I would never do that. My goal is to become comfortable enough so that I can get a girlfriend. Maybe PUA is not the best for doing that, but I'll try anything to try to get out of this rut I'm in. I'm not getting any younger.

 

Plus, I feel bad for hookers. I don't want to have sex with someone I feel sorry for.

[Capricorn3]

I despise sex

You despise sex, yet you pay for it?? Contradiction, much? Good one.

[tso]

You despise sex, yet you pay for it?? Contradiction, much? Good one.

 

I'm anti-sexual, I cannot stop sexual urges.

[LightbulbSun]

I'm anti-sexual, I cannot stop sexual urges.

 

You do realize that's a contradiction, right? You can't be for and against something.

 

Do you mean you're anti-love, and just prefer sex?

[tso]

You do realize that's a contradiction, right? You can't be for and against something.

 

Do you mean you're anti-love, and just prefer sex?

 

I'm anti-love and anti-sexual. Unfortunately, I can't get rid of my sexuality, but I often lie and say I'm asexual.