FrustratedForLife

Wow thanks a bunch for the replies PocoDiablo you really did a good job annalyzing all that i wrote haha Thanks for all the tips and I guess i'll just go with it and I ought to be able to manage it alright...The main thing was I always get confused if other girls like me just as a brother like mandy does but I can sorta tell that most don't and I really don't think Jacque does so well just go with it sat night and see what happens. Thanks again for the reply

Ok well first off try to bear with me this is gonnna be purty long but I hope that someone takes the time to read it. First off ok I have this friend thats a girl her name is mandy anyhow mandy and i met like 3 years ago and we have grown to become pretty close friends at one time i wanted it to be more then friends but that feeling faded and were just very very close friends, i'd call her my best friend and i think that shed call me hers to but who knows i suppose. Anyhow i've always hung out with and around all of her friends as well. Mandy and I as we like to say are like brother and sister, we can talk to each other bout just about anything and tell each other just about everything. That i have figured out where i stand with her but anyhow on to one of mandys friends this is where i get confused.... Ok well mandys one friend is jacque anyhow mandy and jacque are seniors in high school this year and i'm on my 2nd year of college however i hang out with that age group of friends the most. anyhow back when i was a senior i always thought that jacque was really pretty but back in highschool with me she seemed really stuck up and i never liked that about her. However really i never did know her so i was wrong in judging whether she was stuck up or not. Anyhow last winter Jacque started hanging out with us more going to town and stuff with mandy and our group of friends and i started to realize how nice she was and not stuck up at all. Shes really a very nice and thoughtful caring person....however it always seemed she picked some of the worst boyfriends ever i mean she picked some crazy ones thats for sure. Well all summer her and mandy work at a racetrack where i race my car and I really got to talk to jacque alot and get to know her. Soo anyhow in late summer i hung out with jacque a couple times goin out for icecream and stuff like that and it seemed like it might go further but then she started hangin out with another guy...well i slightly gave up and here i found another girl to my liking anyhow. Well when i first started dating this girl jacque seemed really interested if we were actually going out...(i think that jacque was wondering if i was still free). Anyhow i went out with this gurl and while i was doing that she met another guy and started going out with him. Well my "girlfriend" decided to run off with my one buddy so that didn't go to well and i don't really care because she wasnt worth my time....but anyhow jacque and this other dude continue to date. However jacque is always calling me and talking to me about how much she thinks there not suppose to be together and how he ignores her and changes plans all the time so he can do stuff with his guy friends....I really would like to have a chance with her and i think i may but i just wish shed give him up because he is not doing anything worthwhile for there relationship....as far as I can see he wants to call her "HIS OWN" but yet does not want the relationship...this bothers me because i can see jacque and i having and actual relationship... For the past couple weekends shes been calling me and hanging out with me alot and shes like man i hang out with u alot and u call me more then my own boyfriend does. And you know in my head i'm thinkin like ya no kiddin what does that tell ya. Anyhow i think shes finally gettin accross that hes a jerk and this week shes been callin me about every night and she said that since hes such a jerk and already blew the plans for this saturday that she wants to go out with me saturday night and that i should be her boyfriend for the night....This sounds good to me and from what i get i think she likes me and is about ready to give up on her bf. The only thing that confuses me is that i have such a brother/sister relationship with mandy that i worry alot that any other girl that likes me might just like me as a brother. So thereforeeee when we go out this saturday night i don't know how to treat her. I try to get the point accross that i like her but i don't wanna do sumthin outrages if she just likes me like a brother...I dunno i think i just worry to much....welll actually i know i worry to much but anyhow....What does everyone else think? Anyhow i suppose thats all i have...thanks to anyone who reads all this and responds

I always call my best friend which is a girl and I love talkin to her when drunk it makes me so much happier....and if shes not there i leave her voicemails.... But ya i call her when i'm drunk

Yeah, this girl, she broke up with her boyfriend and in my opinion and a bunch of other peoples opinion too including her friends all thought it was for the good. Mostly because they never seemed to even have friendship between them when theyd go out theyd just sit around and sit on different couchs at her house and everything. Plus he treaterd her like crap and broke up with her in a bad way that really broke her heart....I've been trying to help her get over him and just about when i think shes come to her senses she goes back to talkin about goin back out with him.......DRIVES ME NUTS hahaha.... The thing is i know she has liked him for a long time and has got this dude in her head like some great prince or sumthing and i can't figure out why she can't see how crappy this dude is

Wholly cow, you just described the exact same situtation that i am in ....I'm on the opposite sides of things of course... I've liked this girl forever...and also liked her when we first met..heck a while before we met. This girl though, like means the world to me. I seriously don't know what i'd do with out her. Its just like you said too that we get along so well and lately were just like you with arguing sometimes she wins, sometimes i win, sometimes we just say screw it and agree to disagree.... Oh man though I know what you mean between love with friends....I mean I love her and I know she loves me but i just can't tell if its just friends or what....but she has so many girlfriends too and we all always hang out and I just wish that her friends would talk to her and give her the courage to tell me how she feels.... Just like you said i'm the fool that doesn't have the courage to tell her how I feel......I really think we could work out and be a great couple if one of us would just gain some serious courage. I mean we talk all the time and are so close already i don't know why we arn't going out.... Unlike you however this girl of mine had a BF which i wasnt bothered by because i figured it wouldn't last. But all she ever does is call me and tell me her problems with him.....HOW MUCH FUN!!!!!!!!! haha.....i'm bein sarcastic too...I really do enjoy talking to her tho and making her feel better so...its all good They however also broke up a month ago or so and I am tryin to help her through that and it just kills me that we can't be together....Well sorry for blabbin on but I just neeeded to talk a little.... As for advice for your situation which seems identical to mine. I say that i think that in both of our cases we need to buck up and get some courage and tell the other person how we feel...I hope you can do this and take care of your problem....I'm sure he has feelings for you and will turn into a very strong and lasting relationship. But however I highly doubt i can build up that kind of courage. But I seriously think i should talk to her cuz i think your situation sounds just like her talkin and if she does feel the way you feel i might as well give er a shot....... Hope i helped a little