sarey Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 "Thou shalt not kill" is pretty clear to me. Yeah, but it doesn't say it directly, like, you don't know if it means it's a sin to kill others, yourself or both. I don't think suicide is a sin. I just don't. I think killing others is definetely a sin, but apparently God forgives?... Don't know really... *shrug* Link to comment
girl friend Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 But doesn't the story read that Jesus descended to hell to get Judas? The victory wouldn't have been complete without him. Link to comment
Daddy Bear Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 But doesn't the story read that Jesus descended to hell to get Judas? The victory wouldn't have been complete without him.What story is that? Link to comment
Cimmie Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 But doesn't the story read that Jesus descended to hell to get Judas? The victory wouldn't have been complete without him. That's the apocryphal 'harrowing of hell' story. No, don't think Judas was involved. Link to comment
Leonhart Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I don't know if I answered this or not. In answer to the original question, yes, it's a sin. An incredibly selfish one, at that. But it's by no means unforgivable or unpardonable, as the Augustinian belief purports. That's merely a Catholic invention to guilt people into staying alive. Just as there are many Catholic - and other religious - inventions devised to guilt people into going to church, etc. Anything that is not of faith is sin. That would encompass a lot more than mere suicide. Not that I'm condoning it, because I'm not. It's cowardly, extremely selfish and the easy way out, doubtless. If I can live with my pain, and many others who are hurting as well, then so can others. Life is short and pain doesn't last forever. Link to comment
Atticus90 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 nobody knows. bible wont tell you nothing will if you dont want to kill yourself.. shouldnt have to wonder if you do, then you'll find out in the afterlife god is merceful. people become mentally unstable and cant control thereselves will god send someone to hell because they were so mentaly unstable, they couldnt handle it anymore? doubt it Link to comment
Jeen Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 It is one question only you can answer for your self for this question is as old as time it self, and will never be the same for every one. For you are the person standing on that time line in that spot and no one else. Link to comment
illnvrluvher Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 atticus, that is where faith comes in to play. you have to have faith that regardless of one's circumstances one must trust that the Lord will deliver you from your situation. Link to comment
ilovepoemsalot Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 It's not a sin, if your life is so bad and it will carry on being bad. The only way it is a sin would be if you just killed yourself for no reason, since your family and friends are going to suffer. And btw, I'm non religious. Link to comment
cichlid Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 Suicide is a sin, yes and no. (Please, note this is based on Christian beliefs and will reflect those beliefs) If you do it knowing full well that what you are doing is wrong and are sane, then, yes, it is a sin according to Christian beliefs. If you are seriously not able to comprehend that suicide is wrong, then it isn't. You have to know something is sinful to commit a sin. However, most are able to know that what they are doing is wrong. This leaves room for those that are SERIOUSLY mentally instable. God will judge those that kill themselves accordingly, whether they are given mercy for their sin or condemned. This is what the Catholic Church says (I italicized parts dealing with depression and salvation): Suicide 2280 Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of. 2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God. 2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law. Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide. 2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives. Link to comment
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