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There is not nearly enough information there to decide what is going on...

You told us that you've gone out some times, and that you havnt kissed. Way too vague

At my school; if you are going out, dating, seeing each other - you are exclusive. This could apply to your school.

Once you leave school, I agree with southerngirl.

You dont need to be attractive physically, rather attractive with your personality and how you carry yourself.

This means:

- CONFIDENCE

- Display yourself to be of higher value than the girl

- Dont be needy (ie. dont look for her acceptance with what you are doing)

- Be hygenic and stylish. Looks dont really matter, but if you can do something to help, do it

Mainly, be confident.

All you people whinging about girls only looking for 2 seconds to see if you are 'attractive', that is true. However, it is what you do and say in these 2 seconds, not how your face is shapen, that will define attraction.

I got friendzoned pretty hardcore with a depressed girl... I broke off the friendship with her because I liked her way too much - she didnt take it too well. Its 2 months later and she still cries over it...

Sometimes you just have to be selfish though. Relationships like that one are dam unhealthy.

So see her after class and ask her out then. She will like the confidence.

Once you have asked her out you will have more time alone with her =)

Love at first sight is when two very horny, but not very selective, people meet.

Ok...

two words

DAVID DEANGELO

pay for it, download it, whatever... just read his eBook and watch his films.

What you are doing - not being around too much, leaving conversations early, not making too much effort with her etc. is really good (its what I wish I did... blah..)

but on the other hand,

Good girls dont confuse you.

Just keep doing what you are doing... seems to be working anyway

Also - by not doing too much, not making too much effort etc. if it does turn out to not work, like tyler said about the fall, it wont hurt as much if you didnt invest so greatly.

Just be ready for that fall ... really believe in what you are doing so that it becomes implanted in your brain. This will help if the fall does come...

Good luck though, heres hoping she isnt crazy

Ta-ree, if some guy came up and said that he likes you, would be more or less attracted to him?

Dont message her again The-Man. Talk to her in person, but dont mention what you said.

She knows you like her now

Exactly. She knows she likes him, so the chase is over. She has the power now, and there is no challenge for matt.

she wasn't disgusted, didn't blow you off, didn't really say much.

She also isnt any more attracted...

As for being harsh, its better to be harsh than to try and pretend that any of what Matt did was right...

1) never tell a girl you like her...

2) ...especially not on msn

3) he didnt ask her out earlier

4) dont spend a long time talking on msn - instant friendzone

So, sorry for being harsh, but it is best you learn early, rather than late. No matter how you learn...

*btw, dont take too much notice of what women say when it comes to relationships. They dont know what they want...

*and I mean no offence by saying that, its just true...

*rather than reply to the next two posts, Ill just bold what I said before...

That'd be great... but the fatal flaw in your suggestion is the part where she actually calls back!

If she doesn't call I don't have a chance.

If she doesnt call she will be forever thinking of what her confession is ... which means you are on her mind, thus creating attracting.

Next time you see her, you have raised attraction since before (without even doing anything) and if you dont screw up, youre a good chance at another date or better

Win-win

Try this next time you call her...

"hey its ****** and ... I think you have a confession to make."

When she calls, say this:

"What were you doing last night?"

her: bla bla bla

Oh really?

Because last night I was taking a shower, and looked out my window. And I swear I saw you looking at me from accross the street...

If its good enough for David DeAngelo... =)

Horrible HORRIBLE HORRIBLE idea... especially over msn

What you hear:

"no it wasnt, thats very sweet"

What she means:

"you are weak. I now own you... HAHAHA"

Somehow you need to reverse this... Next time you see her, dont ackleknowledge her. Or, failing that, tease her about what she is wearing/saying/doing.

You have to do something to put her back below you.

Yes, Im sure none of this sounds logical (it isnt) but do it anyway...

DONT be there for her

DONT give her things

DONT tell her you like her - ever

DO tease her

DO pretend you dont like her

DO be confident around her

Thanks for ur replies. Im not going to really try anymore with her. Tho i do still want to be friends...as she does...because we really do get along and like being with each other. Who knows maybe it will be a great friendship

If you want more than friendship, being just friends will suck...

Just know that - and as soon as you start REALLY liking her, you have to break it off... for your own sake. Be selfish.

Dont worry about her - shes gone now. Just move on and try to find someone else, and when you do, dont talk for too long on IM, that never helps.

Heres some info on what happened to you... (yes, it may seem wrong - it did to me too when I first heard it - but it is completely true and reflective of what happened with you)

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The second one is good to identify your situation.

Read all of this:

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If you want to avoid this situation again.

But seriously - DO NOT spend any more time with this girl. YOU WILL ONLY become more INFATUATED (not in love) with her, more OBSESSED and you will be unhappy a LOT.

There are plenty more women out there, so find the ones who dont see you a friend and work your magic on them =-)

How do I know all this? I finished going through it a month or two ago. It took me three months of emotional pain with the girl I was crazy for before I realised what had happened - you are lucky you know now, early, before it becomes too hard to let go.

Dont worry about it - when the hairs start coming out just pluck them

Its perfectly normal to have it, but I think everyone who has it worries about it until they ask about it...

Dont let her know you like/miss her...EVER

And dont be her friend (that sucks)

Let her do the chasing now. And dont take her back first go - say no, and then ask her out again in a few days (doesnt sound like it will make sense, but just try it - I made the mistake of not doing it)

You know you stuffed up in the beginning, but just dont give up yet. If the NC helps her come back then great, but if it doesnt, then NC will also help you get over her.

When you are young, sometimes you just dont cum...

dont worry though, soon enough you will - and then you will wish you couldnt (gotta clean it all up now...)

Dont listen to all the women on this post telling you to be nice... they dont know what they want

Unless Rabican is a women, because he/she hit the nail on the head.

I think if a girl really dumped someone for being 'too nice' thats another term for pushover... or wuss maybe. I think all girls want a nice guy, but they want a guy who doesnt cater to their every whim and desire, who still has his own identity etc. basically a man, not a doormat.

Dont do everything she tells you to do, get her to do things for you, bust on her when she screws up, things like that.

iamteddybear also had it right (Y)

If I was with a girl who I liked/loved, what she looked like down there wouldnt matter at all.

I assume thats what its like for EVERYONE

Better late than never. You still have heaps of your life to go, dont worry that you didnt learn this stuff earlier. I only just learnt it a few weeks ago, and already everything seems to be going right.

Just live in the present and enjoy what you now know =)

Women may find them hot, but I doubt they would be attracted to them. Attraction usually comes from the man being in control and a 'mans man' as healinghands said.

But then again... maybe the bloodhound gang was onto something when they wrote 'i wish i was *gay* so i could get chicks'...

Go to the zoo. Lots of time alone, and lots of stuff to keep conversation going.

i told her that i liked her and she was like "aww".

Big mistake.. shouldnt have done that. 'Aww' sounds like a pitty response though...

"i can get him anytime i want"

Of course she can, you told her that you like her... Just because she CAN have you, it doesnt mean she wants you...

Ask her out if you like her, with the 3 sentences you gave us theres no way we can distinguish if she actually does like you, but it sounds to me that she doesnt.

Dont do that ^^^

Just talk to her like youve known her forever, then as your about to leave, turn around and ask her.

if youre 100% positive she will go, then she theres a 99% chance shes told her friends about you, so theyre not gonna bag you or anything.

1. Act like youve known her forever, then when your about to leave, say "hey how bout I get your email" and then when shes writing it down, "put your phone number down there too"

2. Who cares... maybe she has single friends?

3. Shes useless and can go to hell

4. Get her number, call her a few days later

5. No... ever