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Anal sex isn't exactly, and indeed, by far it isnt, the main sexual activity between gay males. There isn't one. Maybe you prefer oral, I don't know. Or just making out in the bed... something like that. But if you get uncomfortable just get out of there. If someone is going someplace you don't feel like going, stop.

As for 'the first kiss' and etc, etc, etc. Don't worry about it either. Just try to be comfortable. Same with being naked and yadda yadda. If you overthink it you will screw it up. It will come to you. Maybe this sounds corny or something, but that's how I think it should be.

You are VERY understanding and patient, if that happened to me, I would kick the person out of the house right then. Kudos to you.

It's called falling in love for a reason... you fall, you don't force yourself in or out, if you don't want to love him like that, you are better off putting some space within you both.

The prayer thing is such a profound denial, you can't just hope he will snap out of it. Someone will have to help him through it. Wether you, some of his gay family members, the Gay Straight Alliance, or whoever. But you shouldn't get your hopes up and lose time waiting for him. Find someone else, you shouldn't let him trample you like that.

Oh, BTW, I'm actually VERY surprised he didn't use the "experimenting" argument.

Good luck!

Well, that's a tricky one. You could suck it up and bear with it. Or you could explain your exgf how you feel and arrange it so that you never meet. Or if you feel like you don't want to involve her, you could always pick some friends and hang with them, then hang with some others, then with some others and so on... Really, there are a ton of options available, do what you feel best.

You are reading way too much into it. I don't know why she sent that message, but you shouldn't assume anything unless she tells you so. If you want to, message her back normally. If you don't want to, then don't.

It will be hard, and will continue to be hard, and then, you'll get over it. But you shouldn't allow your emotions to get the best of you.

You should try to let it go, as hard as it may be. Specially now that he has a girlfriend, because if you keep thinking that he is dating her to prove something, and keep thinking he is gay, you will try to find evidence to support your claim. And your mind can make said evidence appear, and you will just confuse yourself.

Well, there are some people who do "seem" to have it, and are always somewhat right, so I thought that may be a good theory, somewhat. But I still am not sure about it.

I was told it's a "vibe" some people get... and they don't always recognize it, so the more gay people they meet and the more time they spend with them, they are able to pick up that (in)famous vibe. Sounds somewhat plausible.

IMO, her emotions are her emotions, and she should identify them better than you do.

Anyways, the longest a relationship lasts, the more it hurts. It's ok to grieve a little, that way you learn, but don't go overboard. (You shouldn't be missing school though) The pain won't always go away as quickly as you want to, but you'll get over it.

And everyone has flaws. She wasn't perfect, in your eyes maybe, but she really wasn't, your next gf won't, neither will the next, and so on. So I'd say you'll find someone you like as much as you liked her.

Someone who is eloquent and has a good sense of humour.... nothing else matters.

For girls, you always see how pokey they are with each other. They can hug without someone calling them a lesbian or something like that. Then there would be two good guy friends hugging. That just "looks" wrong (two guys hugging) in many peoples views. Hope I don't sound ignorant in the way I put it. =S

I was actually commenting this the other day... You know, girls can hug and dance and they are good friends, but guys look weird doing so. A guy who has a lot of sex is "the man" and the girl who has a lot of sex is "the * * * *". Double standards, aren't they?

I think people are just trying to keep the conversation, and you are being a bit insecure and reading too much into it.

And really, what kind of date begins with "so... how many boyfriends/girlfriends have you had?" Now, that is a turn-off.

You said it yourself, we all have to begin somewhere.

Well, I am pretty shy too, but I think that if were to be totally straight, I'd still be a huge outcast, either way.

My advice: Pursue his friendship, not a relationship. 1. You aren't 100% sure of his sexual orientation. 2. This guy sounds like he needs a friend, so even if you weren't attracted to him, befriending him would be nice.

If you really, really, really, really feel like you can trust him, and you are sure he might not out you by spreading it around, then you could come out to him. Yeah, sounds hard, but sometimes, it's the only way, unless you have the (in?)famous gaydar.

Ok, my post might have come out as aggressive, but it wasn't my intention to offend you. So my apologies.

I haven't attacked you in any way, or anyone for that matter. If you read all of my posts on this thread you would know I am bisexual. If you knew me you would know I have 2 gay friends. Do they know my position on this issue? Yes. Do they care? No. Neither one of them have any intentions of marrying me; it is just something we disagreed on and moved on from.

Yeah, I know you are bisexual, but I wasn't accussing you of being homophobic.

But my intention isn't to have everyone pro-gay marriage. I understand your beliefs, and don't really want churches to change their views on holy marriages, but marriage is a civil matter too.

Also, what about religions that are pro-same sex marriages, wouldn't that be discriminatory on both sexuality and religion?

Keep the "homosexuality is a sin" debate out of here, save it for another thread. This isn't the point of this thread, and I don't want to start a bible passage war right now, so keep this out of here, for the separation of church and state's sake.

And not everyone follows your religion (or a religion) so let the churches handle marriage however they want to. (You don't see me in a pro-gay marriage campain in front of a church) No one is forcing your church to recognize same-sex marriages.

Don't exclude women, it's not about men, more about "slutty" (for lack of a better word... maybe "easy" would be better?) people as a whole. It is not about a man sleeping with a woman she just met, it's about a man and a woman who just met, sleeping together. I mean, the woman was willing as well, otherwise, it would of been rape.

Times change, words change, get used to it. Back then marriage was defined to include multiple wives, slaves and children. Polygamy was never common place in western society, you don't see any slaves now-a-days and not all marriages bear children, right?

If you said you are becoming good friends, maybe you could wait until he wants to tell you, unless of course he is one of those that think their sexuality can be taken for granted. Then you will know if he gets a boyfriend/girlfriend... but then he could be bi, so it's just too confusing. -_-

*Cracks head open becuase he doubts he is making sense*

Full equality is allowing me to utilize the term marriage wether I'm married to a guy or a girl. Besides what ShySoul said, do we have to create a different little name for everything, just to make the religious groups happy? What about say, gay divorce? Just quit being so sensitive over a name.

Moral of the story... no such thing as a perfect boyfriend. If someone seems perfect, buckle up for the ride. I'd say I agree with pretty much everything venus777 said, wanting to cheat is just as bad as cheating.

Eh... blink a few times and invent an excuse to get away? Cause that's what I would have done... well, to each their own. Sounds like the kind of girl that would like one of those arranged marriages.

Yeah, and different religions have different definitions of marriage (for example... polygamy) so the "definition" of marriage isn't something that should rely on religion... but you are right, try to explain that to every religious person.

But marriage isn't a religious matter, atheists can get matter, for crying out loud. I read somewhere that marriage probably began as a "contract" to join to families, or something like that, but I don't really remember ATM, but still, marriage isn't something religious, it's universal.

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Anyways, I don't really worry about hate crimes, since they aren't really any open gay people around here. (But I bet you ten dollars that if that changed, there'd be a quite a bit of hate crimes going around...) But people get prosecuted for other things... so it's not like all heads would turn to the gays...

BTW, just out of pure curiosity, how long do you keep your hair, Cloud? since I also keep it long... for a guy, but I've been really wondering when you "cross the line" that some people tend to draw.