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correction. she did move this weekend but the date is planned for valentine’s day . so not this weekend. typo my bad

so you’re saying maybe give it some more time? I mean we were supposed to go on a date this saturday to splatter paint. after that should i just relax and let her reach out to me?

she is 25. and yeah same girl. she is interested i guess but it’s just a wierd dynamic. how so should i step back?

you right. i just am a very respectful and traditional man, so i like taking the lead and being respectful and genuine and reach out, good morning etc. Maybe that’s the issue lol. I may step back honestly. i was gonna go on a splatter painting date with her this weekend but it’s expensive and maybe i should wait. idk she’s also moving tomorrow and it’s prolly stressing her out , so maybe ill back off and see

chillll dawg lol i acknowledge their response and ask for more advice. don’t take “lols” so seriously

i guess im just figuring out how to tell her lol i don’t wanna like hurt somebody else but i mean you know, you’re right lol what kinda advice can you give?

Late last month, I posted on here about a girl(25F) that I(27M)was seeing and due to her not really engaging much or initiating conversation and me always initiating, planning, etc., y'all said we were potentially incompatible. So, to back up a little we first saw each other January 5th. It is now February 8th. We have been seeing each other and going on dates regularly every week. I’d say 1-2 times a week, leaning more towards 1 date a week, and either church or gym other days as casual. Just a side note, during bold questions, she said that she is not too “open” and likes to “listen” and recently she said she is wanting long term relationship but that she isn’t putting “pressure” on it and that she is in “no hurry”. These statements have been discussed throughout the time we have beeen seeing each other with the latter being this week. Our interactions at times are very awkward and i am often finding things to talk about. After I seemingly either can’t think of anything else to talk about or ask, I wait, and I kinda step back to see if she will initiate conversation or talk or something to engage and put in a little effort. This happened last week and we sat in silence for what seemed to be more than an hour. I confronted her about it and she said she thought i didn’t wanna be there (at the date) (it was a sports event), and then she says “i like silence sometimes”, and then she said she thought something was wrong. Regardless, i feel that while it’s okay to like silence, definitely not so when you’re gettng to know someone. With texting, we talk but her reactions (as i said before) are always “oh nice ! how was your day “ etc., and then we have a conversation about our days and i joke a little and then she falls asleep and the next day again when we talk it’s “what are you up to today”. Like i feel like the texting is not really connective or building, but rather redundant. Normally when you build on a conversation like i do, you would ask about it, or engage further, or note a personal experience to talk about, but it’s not like that. Things have gotten somewhat better in a sense where she asked me to come hangout with her and her friends at the house and watch the game which was nice and she did offer to pay once in this month period which felt good to see some sort of effort. However ( and correct me if i’m wrong of course), it seems like she cares more about time with her friends and work and that’s it because I feeel like you know to get to better know her friends, which are basically her life, because i don’t see her do much recreational activities, you would invite me places with them and hang out and get to know them. I feel like for me, saying that , is just a way to get more ways of diverse conversation because our interactions are flat and wierd sometimes. Any advice from yall good people? I feel at times there is a sense of hot and cold and I see it a little bit. What do you think?

I understand what you are saying. I didn’t mean for it to sound like that . But i mean it’s more like her texts are like “yeah we can do that!” or “that sounds awesome , my friends and i are going to XYZ!. What are you doing?”… it’s just very idk i’m not used to it. less expressive i suppose? She’s a great girl otherwise. she just changes subjects , like a lot and i don’t feel that’s there uncomfortable at all, it’s just normal things lol and if i’m being honest, in 5 dates , i haven’t really found a hobby she loves doing or topics she’s passionate about . Again she hasn’t disclosed any of that. even when i ask lol i mean she likes horses and country things , and likes to go out with friends. but it’s so hard to have to delegate my way of communication to find topics to talk aboit with her. It’s like trying to pick a needle in a haystack and just ask random questions like an interview and find out what she likes. i’ve done that on the first date but not interview style but it almost feels like i have to do that😂

should i bring up, obviously with “I” statements that i am initiating every conversation and it feels like exhausting . she did just respond finally after i texted her back 3 hours ago and she’s said “hi. i didn’t wanna bother you haha” and then some other stuff but yeah

well realistically i was busy and prob could’ve shot a text her way but as i said, if i didn’t text her consistently , i wouldn’t ever hear from here. it’s crazy but the truth. gotta see where the effort lies

Hey so I (27M) been seeing this girl (25F) for roughly 3 weeks. We met over christmas break on hinge and i was gone for a month so we talked a bit and i was surprised she actually waited for me to get back. We finally met on January 5th and things went pretty well. We have went on 4 more “dates” since then. I say that because some of them weren’t formal but rather hanging out, gym together, etc. but 3 Real dates we have beeen on. The interaction between us is odd. I am a very upbeat, extroverted dude and she told me when we met and idk how it came up but that she is not too “open” and that she likes to be a listener. which idk what that even means. During our text conversations , she is very sometimes dry, and she often changes subjects so quick. We will be talking about something and she will respond with something totally different which puts me in an awkward position because half the things she says , i don’t even know how to respond. So, texting is spotty, sometimes awkward ,etc. I also noticed when we were hanging out , she was on her phone a lot of the time which irritated me. The main thing i’m hear to ask is that, should i keep this girl around? I am always the one initiating conversation, always keeping it going and sometimes she seems so shy , when i know when she’s with her friends she’s very talkative at times. Today i didn’t text her at all to see if she would actually put in the effort to talk, and she didn’t text me all day at all except at 7pm that said “Hope you’re okay today!”….I mean am i crazy or is that a wierd thing to say to someone you are “going out with”, as well as waiting all day to even say anything, and that be your first text???? Idk i need some of yall to shed some light for me because it’s odd. I’m tempted to ask what she is loooing for out of this, or what is her communicative preference ,etc because i’m a.very straight forward mature man and i don’t play games , but it’s so hard to read her and she confuses me every other day. so yall let me know please 🙏

I think you misunderstood , she told me multiple times that she couldn’t give me the love that I needed and be there for me like I was there for her, and she did tell me that multiple times, but for some reason I still held onto a belief, and we kept seeing each other, even though we weren’t dating, and it was weird because we weren’t having sex either but we were just hanging out, so I don’t know what it was but she just said she needs to go and figure out how to deal with life without her brother.

Maybe it’s not love . I just don’t know. My head won’t tell me. But I just know when i’m around her , nothing else exists, when I feel her touch, I feel the sense of warmth and happiness. I often find myself gazing at her beauty, and I look at her like every woman would dream a man would look at them. I just have a very intense feelings for her. I presume that I think it’s because her and I have so much in common. she is such an overachiever, and like I am, she has the same value as I do so that’s why I think it all stems from. I believe you’re right we did jump in really fast and I open up to people really quickly, so we talked about me a lot, and my trauma in my past, but we never got the chance to really go through her whole life in depth, even though she’s a big talker, but I was open when I first met her and talked a lot about what I went through, and you’re right maybe I should’ve gone to therapy years ago, but I didn’t know how and I I don’t know it’s dumb, I don’t feel normal I feel stupid, and maybe I feel ashamed. I don’t want to feel like this I just wanna be a normal person who is happy and has friends and can go do things that they love, lately it’s just been focusing on my career and school work has consumed me, and all I am ever doing is being alone and I hate it because I crave intimacy and I crave extroversion all my family in the military all my friends, they’re leaving because they’re getting out and I literally have lost every friend and I have one friend and my family is so far away, with everything that I’ve been through. I don’t know if people are dealing with the same thing someone else, but this is a lot to deal with in life seems so hard, especially since I’m so indecisive in my career, I’m also in the middle of moving just like she is, and sometimes everything that’s hitting me at once feels like a lot. The thing is, the last three relationships have been ended for the same reason and also because I always brought up things, and I think people are upset at me and I should start thinking to myself that if people are upset, it’s their responsibility to bring it up and not mine to pull it out of them. Yes, my solution is to go to therapy and talk through it and also go to a church group to meet new friends, even though I went from being extremely extroverted, and the life of the party to a person who is very shy and nervous now, and always worrying about what others think of me, I guess trauma just ***s you up. I have to be comfortable with fear. I’m a very intellectual and smart person, but sometimes I just don’t know how to execute, and then also plays into my personality style sometimes. I don’t know if she would want to be with me, I still have her location, and that may just be because she hasn’t remember to take it off, but I don’t know and like I said, it’s only been three days since you stop talking to me, but I crave love and intimacy, I crave giving people love, that’s a part of my personality type, but also it sucks because my personality type and trauma kind of go hand-in-hand because I’ve been messed up so much that I really am codependent on people and with my personality type I naturally am a people pleaser and put peoples needs above my own, so I guess just naturally I was born into not being self-sufficient from my childhood, and I think a psychiatrist and therapist will help me, I have never ever been to one of my entire life and I think maybe this is a shift and change into my life. I know you’re not my therapist, and I tend to apologize a lot and that’s the first thing that she recognized, is that I would apologize for things that I didn’t need to, and also ask her if she’s OK all the time, but I apologize if it seems like you’re my therapist and I’m venting to you, but I just have a lot to say and my mind is like a racing horse, I also have ADHD so it’s terrible. I haven’t taken my meds in a while and I don’t often tend to neglect. My personal needs in that sense because I am a fitness trainer and very into my physical health, but sometimes mental health really takes the toll. What if I sent her flowers and I was going to also sent her a Brazilian wax appointment for Sunday? Like I told her I would before she said she needed to walk away to clear her head, what is she reaches out and tries to initiate conversation? That confuses me because then I will want to, but I don’t know if I should set a boundary and say no, I guess I would have to think with my head instead of my heart. also, yeah, she’s very avoidant, if you look up anxious, avoidant, attachment style, resonates with her, she is avoidance of situations and avoidant of emotions, and she has commitment issues, she also has OCD and other things, but me being anxious, and her being avoiding, is really tough and it takes a lot of work truly to make things work. I feel like you have a lot of answers to my questions and I want to say that I appreciate all of the time and energy that you’re putting into this and it means a lot

no, I have never sent her flowers, and yes, I know, and understand this is my issue, and I know, and understand what attachment styles I have, and what traumas I have, I just need to know how to deal with them. Yes, I know that we move together so fast and it’s crazy because with my personality and attachment I can idealize a little bit but maybe you’re right that there wasn’t a lot of love there, but I have love for her, and I love hard because I get attached because of my fear of abandonment. Naturally, she’s avoidant and so of course she doesn’t like emotions and all of that , so I see where I messed up and I really just want to fix it, and I know that I can fix it. I have never been in therapy before and like I said, I haven’t started it yet, I should be able to start it next week or the week after . But I would love to send her flowers and a note just showing her that I care, because she cares so much about me. I know she’s dealing with a lot and she avoids a lot of emotion, and a lot of things that require a lot of attention, that’s just in her nature, and I wanted to send her a resource that may help her out during this hard time, because she’s so oblivious to emotion, maybe she’s not thinking about that and that maybe I could give her some insight with a resource, and leave the balls in her court, she doesn’t have to reach out, but give her those things for her benefit and then stop talking to her and just go on with my life. I do think that I have a lot of internal issues and I have dealt with stuff that no 27 year old should ever have to deal with in life , But it is what it is and no I don’t have any medication‘s because I haven’t seen a psychiatrist, I’ve never been to a therapist or anything, but I know I struggle. I want to eventually see if I can get back with her and because we both are so mature, I think we can get through this as together. It’s just hard because she doesn’t have the capacity to think right now. I also want to know that you’re helping me so much. Thank you.

i don’t have any negative self thoughts. it’s more like constant overthinking about getting her back and being ther to support her and just idk reflecting . it’s scary . idk..