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overthinking...... just ask him out. And also no its not always true that men always like to take the initiative. 80% of men wouldnt mind that the women actually is the one making the first step. Arent we living in equality time? women should be allowed to hunt also so go for it. At least you'll know how its like to be in a man shoes trying to ask girls out lol.

A guy didn't call me within 48 hours of our first date. He didn't call or write to say that he had a good time. I've written him off.

 

Most guys call right after the first date or the day after to say that they had a good time. If they don't, I just figure they're not interested and move on.

You know what? just do what you feel like doing. If you just wanna call her and talk to her, just do it. Life too short to hang around people who missreads you by thinking your desperate. Beside there is a market to buy off women...to make them yours if that doesnt work! LOL (man i am gonna get hang for this )

Omni-I,

 

I found the post superficial for a couple of reasons. One, why do these women have to be "hot chicks?" Can't they be just your regular down-to-earth looking women? To me, in order for a women to be flirted with that is "hot" is a bit superficial and shallow. Another reason is why do they have to work at the mall or a womens' clothing store? Why not a library, a gym, in class, etc? I did not call YOU superficial, I called the content of the post superficial.

 

Ok, maybe my wording was a bit extreme when I wrote I know EVERY trick in the book but I have been exposed to what you were describing in your original post quite a bit.

Indeed why wouldnt women be in other jobs area? I just sited the mall as an example. Though maybe i didnt present the post in a more politically correct way. But i tend to willingly not do that and i tend to keep it "vulgar" so everyone gets the message and provoke in some way (ive been told before than i used to much "fancy words" to communicate so i keep it simple).

"Hot chicks" can be many things (though i bet you though i was referring to the traditional meaning), what men would consider hot would be very ordinary for others. Taste varies. Would have it been better to say "charming women"? Though I think women are somewhat biased over the subject as it wasnt presented in a "good light". I'll keep that in mind of the next threads i start.

That actually 19 ways to actually end lose a girl.

Done at rare times and limited it can do wonders. But too much of it too fast you'll just end up alone....with your hand...or anything else that you use to keep you in control lol.

Basically when i just read all those 19 stuffs, its hit me has being a WUSS. And chicks dont dig WUSSES. Never give what the want! Thats the key of keeping a girl. We keep power and control and decide whenever she deserve any of that attention. Thats all.

But ya, thats basically what confidence is all about. But there is such things a too much confidence to the point like lil miss here mentioned as being arrogant. I'll just sum up with the following. Be confident isnt the only thing to make people (not just women being attracted to you), you need nuance this with by being also open minded....which is quite rare to find these days. Even from people who pretend to be so but who arent really. This implies listening, accepting difference of opinion, not taking everything personal, willing to admit to be wrong and understanding (specially when it comes to pushing others people button, you gonna know when its a touchy subject.) I know its hard, but if everyone did half the effort the world wouldnt suck that much.

Nice post, you made some interesting points for me to consider, some that I already thought of or tried, others to put to use. Perhaps I get discouraged easily. But what do you mean by this, calling me illiterate? I kan sew reed.

When people can't read its mean they are analphabetic. So you aren't illiterate, but you definatly can't write!

Good luck

in other words, less than good-looking people needs to be more patient and work more at it lol. Beside it goes the same way for women. Men like a women who also has a good sense of humor.

If I was trying to shop...sorry, I would think you were a creep. There is absolutely no reason for a man to be in a womens' clothing store unless he was trying to pick up chicks. And if a man was in a womens' clothing store shopping for his GF/wife...bigger creep.

 

If I was single, I would not be flattered. Sorry. And if I was taken and truly happy...sorry, I would not take the bait either. IMO, men flirt with taken women for 2 reasons: 1. his ego is huge 2. wants to test to see how happy she is in her current relationship...or both. I used to bartend so I know every trick in the book and plus I am old enough to know better.

 

I am sorry to say...but the oringinal post sounds very superficial.

 

Well sorry to hear that, but i doubt you know every trick of the book. Beside its never was about tricks, its about being who we are and coming up with something to break the ice to make conversation. And who is not superficial these day and age, dont be such a hyprocrite. Women who are wise enough to recognise that are definatly more attractive. Which makes them quite rare. But everyone is entitled to her own opinion even if it could use some eye-opening. Keep them coming!

errr...maybe you want something that you can't have? Alot if not all people are like that. Go figure, I like the easy way out. How about i make you forget him and making you feel like a woman again? LOL Plus I am even younger than your ex hehe, though just by a year.

well, come here you can get back at him trough me hehe. Yeah i am kinda masochistic.

Hey annie. You are HOT and I'd never cancel on you! I dig scientist chicks! You are living my lost dreams and i am not a converted artist in the visual effect industry ( grades sucked too much!) hehe

Ok that being said and I hope it makes you feel better.

Personally, flakyness comes on both side, either from women or men. I had a girl which i met in online for a movie at a festival we both wanted to go. She said she didnt have anyone to go with so i said to her we could go watch together like friends And then when i was trying to setup something and sent her the link for the listing she took her time before deciding and acted desinterested. At the time i met her, she was crying over a breakup with her ex blah blah, and as usual at the time i tried to console her, big mistake, i should have busted her instead for being so clingy.

Anyway, suffice to say that we never went to see the movie and never met and she got back with her ex. Waste of my time it was. And the whole process lasted 2 months. So my advice, don't look back and just move on. You shouldn't care that much from people you just met anyway. Heartless and inconsiderate people is common, and we are among them ourselves. Sometimes women makes me angry like men does to yoiu...but i try to remember the ones who were angels (rare as it may) and remind me that YES good women still exist. So don't lose hope. Beside i love women, its so much easier than being angry at them all the time.

 

I am blessed with a lot of things in my life, looks is not one of them. Recently, I decided not to wish I was good looking because it is superficial compared to real problems and real drama. But being alone because your outer shell is repulsive is the worse non-life threatening feeling in the world.

Man...don't people read? Sigh, ok since you can't here another solution. If its true that your are blessed with so much other things and hopefully money. Here is a trick get loads of it and go get surgery! But let me tell you this, surgery wont mean squat if you continue to self-loathe yourself. Let me finish off be saying this quoting billy bob thornton caracter from bad santa "Don't take crap from anybody, especially from yourself." We go around in this world meeting people who will try to take us down all the time, there are enough of them already so why would you allow yourself to be among them? You can be either our best ally or worst ennemie. And no body else can play best either roles because you are the person who knows you best!

Be a MAN and take control of your reality. If women tries to take you down, fight back, and overwelm by being unwavered and embarrass them instead. This is how you get noticed with your personality. AND PLEASE, men speaking of their feelings, especially to other women, is really not working. ANd sends a message of neediness and lack of confidence. Prove the whole world that you are a much better man than you "cuter friends" by making something out you, having projects, leading instead of following! EMPOWER yourself. The rest will only follow.

 

Making fun of me won't win me, obviously. Your chance is already gone! sorry dude. get used to it; this will pretty much be your future in online & offline dating.

 

LOL, yah but at least I actually do have a future in real life, and who said i wanted to win you over? I just said i'd enjoy making fun of you, which its something i already do here. you on the other hand you don't know how to properly write an essay.

So I guess you guys won't be dating lol

 

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HAHA, well no since we are currently so far appart. But if we were closer, I'd have a blast making fun of Lily. A target this easy doesn't come by often LOL So I think I'd enjoy that very much. Also, I KNOW i am hot, i don't need an unimpressive spaced out girl approval for it.

 

But as for online dating Legend, glad for you you met someone. I 2 met someone.....but was in VANCOUVER! lol and i just randomly sent email to cuties not looking where they were. We became good friends and I was able to help her in her life also. But I think that all i was ever able to get out of my 50 bucks lol. Like you said, 50 bucks on myself would have been better spent.

You're mean. I thought you said "you just answered YOUR OWN question" which is why. I didn't ask a question. I'm reading like 3 threads at once as well, plus writing an essay, so whatever.

THANKs! I working hard at being a mean guy, specially toward spaced-flaky girls-who-should-study-harder-instead-dating-this-much! LOL Stick to your essay only because if your attention is anything like here...you are bound to end up with a bad grade!

QUestion from legend, why online dating is advantageous for women. Not only your flaky but spaced out. This is getting better.

This was at least true for me until I messaged the 'perfect' guy. I didn't want to waste $$ on the package, so I just didn't msg. anyone, and got 40 messages to me instead. Seemed like a sweet deal.

 

Maybe that's not true though... I think in general if you're better-looking you'll probably get more smiles or whatever. If you look like the typical computer/internet nerd and your profile reflects that... internet dating may not be so lucrative. But then again, there's probably some nerdy girls who also use online dating so who knows... .

Lily you just answered the question. You NEVER paid until this guy came. And even nerdy girls are popular, looks who is talking?

You know, none of you are making me feel any better.

Look don't listen to them and listen to me! Look at other threads!

And Lily....... YOU ARE SO FULL OF YOURSELF !

Seem to me like someone needs to prove to everyone how datable you are. But I think you actually still have low self-esteem otherwise you wouldnt brag so much! Beside law student are boring as hell they become lawyers! what are you studying? Being a secretary? Because they sure are appreciated in law firms if you know what I mean One day you are all clingy over a guy and they next you think you are so hot. Flaky aren't you?

Hmm look man, be a man and stop wasting time so much on your look. Trust me, women don't really want to be respected LOL (Im gonna get hang for this) They want a man who is gonna win and take control of her (not in a abusive way for "normal gals" and for the f*ucked up you can guess why some women stays in a abusive relationship). This my friend IS DA BOMB, understand it and you'll see how the majority of women are. Its social conditioning, gene, natural evolution, watherever you name it. But thats the common thing. Thats why women spend so much time on their looks and a girls who is ugly as hell represent a very low interest for most men.

Personality is more important for women than for men, because its what drives and makes us men, alpha males. Its about being charismatic If you prefer charisma isnt only about looks, but how you speak, what you say, how you present yourself, what first impression they have of you, what do you inspire, sense of humor, wits, etc. Crap load of stuff. I notice all the time, guys who looked like bums, half shaved and messy hair with a hot chick. Ask yourself why? Its more the rule than the exception. You don't believe me? Stand in a corner of the streets where you can be sure to see couple. Watch how they are matched up.

Thats why you can say that women tend to be attracted to older men, because personality gets better (most of the time) with age and experience. And we tend to pick up younger women because of the looks.

Man...despite I know all of that lol. I really don't want to agree...but thats how we are. Like for you, when I'll accept it, I'll be more successful with women

Why advantage to woman? Can you explain that because I don't understand howcome.

Hmmm, I gave alot of thought about it before...but now I kinda forgot why lol. I think is has to do with numbers. I think there are more men in online dating than there is women. Then again, how is it different from free drinks night for gals?

what about you ? Have you been successful with the online thingy?

There are certain times and places that fliriting is ok. At someones work is not a good place. If everywhere I turned at a mall and you were there I would think this guy isnt flirting he is stalking/

 

I am neither creepy or not appreciative of men. You ask for a womans perspective and you got them.

Take it or leave it!

Hey sorry if you felt i rubbed your balls too hard. Don't worry, I appreciate all comments. It gives a different perspective about different type of personalities.

You said you are neither creepy or appreciative of men? I don't know about that..., I'm starting to feel a bad vibe and hostility here. But then again, your sort might be the kind of women whom i wouldn't be interested in flirting lol. So see it all works out in the end!

 

And about the comment below... unfortunately I live in Ontario, so I don't think that'll work, lol. sorry!

Hey, we never know, in my field i tend to move and work around alot lol.

Well i am glad things goes well for you. But I would like to mention you that, online dating gives an unfair advantage to women, and trust I am not the only guy saying that. But I don't wanna get into that it would be too long to debate.

As playing hard to get and being a challenge. But thats just me. But it would seem that you are the typical girl who are after "challenging men". But I think they are more important things to do that waste time on it. For what i can tell from guys, the guys who are successful are real men that don't bother chasing women, its the women who chases them. For them its too much a bother, there so much more things in life to experience and live than trying to figure out the inner work of a girls head. Hmm maybe I outgha let my parents finding me a hottie for a wife, much simpler this way. LOL

For what i can guess, I think you are misconcieving what flirting IS actually. And Belinda seemed to get it and thank you! But don't worry the question is mostly about getting dates, not to get into a relationship with a girl who would drop her ex.

Flirting is just a simple thing, if you laugh, smile and appreciate company of a guy (boyfriend or not), guess what? You are being flirted. For some its comes naturally for others not.

I did mention having conversation and asked out after. And of course if its a no, there is no need to push it any further. Plenty of more to choose from. Its all in the way its done. And I do feel instantly bad vibes from certain women.

But that said, some women aren't appreciative of men so that i can understand that. Afterall, women are as creepy as men can get...just in a different way.

Hey all, and especially women! How you girls feel being flirted while shopping or working in a shop. Especially those hot chicks working in a women's clothings stores all day and barely see anyone going in (especially on slow days) and even less men.

How would you feel being engaged in a conversation and asked out? Would you go for it? or Do you just act friendly because you HAVE to since your getting paid for it? lol and that you are all really really mean and b*tchy girls in reality?

That question goes for every girl in a relationship or not.

By the way, i have no problems at stealing another guy's girl lol especially if i think she is a great girl. (Except if she has a kid...not ready to be daddy yet) Great girls are hard to come by, sorry dudes. If i am a better man, why not let her have a take at it. If her current boyfriend is better than me than I know I've lost to a better runner and she isnt intrested. And i am probably not the only one and that goes for women stealing other women's men also. That should remind people to never take for granted your better half...if you can call it this way.

yup i agree with all of ya. here is a tip, if you got myopia remove your glasses lol works wonders with me. Plus i think women can see better my eyes and how sexy i actually am! lol If i am in front of a very attractive woman, i dont see her well enough to be distracted to by her looks and by myself lol and if she unsually ugly, i cant see her enough to be totally grossed out lol. But my mopia in minor, so their is a limit. so the less you see the better it is! lol

and that is no joke, i have a coworker that i am really attracted to and ive experience talking to her both with glasses and no glasses. With glasses i could barely keep my composure. With no glasses, i was in total control of the situation. My mistake is that the 3rd time i met her, i had my glasses on....man i should have removed it. oh well thats for next time!