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1 minute ago, Wiseman2 said:

It seems like your trying to find out what attracts the most women? It's a lot more complicated than  particular muscle groups. 

Are you dating? Or interested in dating? Or trying to date? Because your question seems to come from the notion that you have to be a certain muscleman stereotype to go on dates.

 

Way less complicated than that. Literally just prioritizing workouts because I run into time constraints sometimes. And yes looking good does motivate me. If you turn it into some deep journey of self actualization I'm going to lose interest really fast because that quite simply isn't why I'm there although that's perfectly fine for others!

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1 minute ago, onemoretime said:

Eh I work out enough that I am physically fit. I think wanting to look good is perfectly fine and healthy too. It's definitely motivating. I can get more cynical about less concrete goals. I understand preferences vary but it also doesn't hurt to shoot for the more common preferences

Like for example, some girls might be into serial killers but if you want to improve your chances of attracting the average girl you meet the "serial killer" aesthetic is probably not the best one on average 😆

16 minutes ago, Wiseman2 said:

Have an overall well designed fitness and workout routine. That could include weight training, several sports, cardio, martial arts,etc. 

Don't work out for "attraction", work out to stay mentally and physically fit. 

If the point is to attract women, there's a lot more to it than muscle groups.

Get a good profile and pics on quality dating apps and start talking to and meeting women. You'll soon find out that there's plenty of different women attracted to plenty of different types of men.

Eh I work out enough that I am physically fit. I think wanting to look good is perfectly fine and healthy too. It's definitely motivating. I can get more cynical about less concrete goals. I understand preferences vary but it also doesn't hurt to shoot for the more common preferences

12 minutes ago, MissCanuck said:

This is why I suggested investing in an experienced personal trainer. They can help you identify your fitness goals and created a plan to achieve them. 

I have done that before but it is expensive af. What I'm after here is kind of just like if a woman wants to look cute and she wears an outfit because she knows she looks hot in it. It's a similar concept except I have a harder time knowing for myself so I seek out opinions.  It's not a particularly deep question but just a regular human one

Just now, MissCanuck said:

I would focus on being the best version of you, whatever form that takes. 

Hopefully i don't have to focus on all that when I'm just picking what to work out that day though 🤣

Yeah when I said other words I meant more casual things like women saying they prefer men with broad shoulders or some saying they like guys with a good butt or others they don't care. Not micro analyzing muscle groups, just general preferences 

Thanks! To be honest I actually have heard women talk like that before using other words but it's of course better to get more perspectives

Hey thanks. This was honestly more for fitness advice than dating advice in the sense that sometimes I have to prioritize my time when I do I prefer to do it on things that look better. I understand that isn't the whole picture with dating but it is more relevant as it relates to workouts 

Posted this on reddit but only got 1 response so I'm just looking for a bigger sample:

"1st of all I understand the 'cut' look is probably most popular given there's only so far you can grow sideways (as a short guy) before it stops adding to attraction.

But given that cardio can be time consuming, some days it makes sense to lift for muscle gain since it's quicker, muscle can help with boosting metabolism, and it's certainly better than doing nothing.

So which muscles would you consider most important for short guys (or all guys if it's exactly the same)?

20 minutes ago, Kwothe28 said:

Eh, yes and no. Its only innapropriate if she doesnt like you.

"Guy she likes" not some rando from work that she doesnt even know he exists.

Then there is no motive to text if one side finds it innapropriate and  doesnt text. So there is no dillema.

If she likes him she wouldnt mind. If she doesnt than its an HR issue. Like in this comic book.

Avoid something that is innapropriate and could have an ability to get you in trouble especially if you know the woman maybe doesnt like you.

I wasn't inquiring about the ethics of it. Rather specifically talking about the scenario where the guy is acting appropriately (in a situation where he's actually crushing on the girl) and whether or not that affects his hypothetical attractiveness for women. Obviously dating in a work place environment where 2 people know eachother for a long time is common place. I'm talking about other professional situations where relationship hasn't been established.

Just now, Wiseman2 said:

It seems like boundaries if someone has a contact for business purposes and doesn't cross that line. Either someone is attracted or not. Secret crushes probably wouldn't influence that.

I did the thought experiment myself and had sort of similar conclusion but I do wonder how gender specific that is or even just specific to the inividual.

1. Picturing someone I wasn't attracted to had no affect.
2. Picturing someone I was on the fence about also had no affect.
3. Picturing someone I was attracted to did make me more attracted, but I think it came strictly from the idea of picturing someone I was attracted to having a crush on me and nothing to do with the ethical discipline.

I also don't know that it's ethically identical when you swap the genders because we live in a culture where women and men aren't treated similarly and there's a lot more situations where women are bombarded by creepy men then men being bombarded by creepy women. So I'm not sure if there's any difference in how women interpret this ethical situation with men or even just for some people (I do notice a lot of variation in the non physical things women say they are attracted to). 

1 minute ago, Starlight925 said:

And what does XD mean?

It would be easier to help you if you write in complete sentences, thanks.

it's an emoji kind of like wincing and laughing 😆

I don't expect the answer to this question will have much for practical implications but I'm morbidly curious about something.

1. We already know a guy texting a woman who's not interested him in inappropriate circumstances (has her number purely for professional reasons but texts her to hang out/date when their relationship hasn't really been established) is usually creepy.

2. We also know that *some women* wouldn't mind getting a text from a guy she really really likes even if it's inappropriate in the same way (gave the guy the number for a professional reason but he soon contacts her to hang out or date). After all we're all human and some women would like this better than other women. 

My question is *in general* how is it perceived if a guy secretly wants to text you in that context but doesn't because it's inappropriate. Obviously you would never know, but if you entertained the idea or imagined the guy secretly crushing on you but not texting you would that make him more attractive or less or no change? A test case would be a guy you were on the fence about, picturing him being secretly crushing on you but not texting.