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7 minutes ago, MissCanuck said:

The point is that it's making you irrationally angry, it seems. 

Take a few deep breaths. There's no sense getting this wound up over something you cannot control. Learn to emotionally deatch from such issues and things will feel a lot beter for you. 

Ok

Just now, MissCanuck said:

Yes, exactly.

You must have some extra time on your hands to do all this digging about her, OP, especially considering that others are already reporting it. 

That time and energy could be better used in more productive ways. Maybe think about taking up a new activity to redirect your thoughts. 

OK then stop replying to this thread and it will die out

The landlord and roommate are already doing the reporting now so bye

Just now, Tinydance said:

You actually sound really racist and anti Chinese or anti Asian or whatever it is you're anti. "She moved in with a white guy". Ooohhh don't forget to call the police because how dare Asian date white. You sound very bored.

Yeah racist for calling out unlawful antics. You sound like those who will let illegal people get in the country and then claim why jobs are no longer available.

You sound like an illegal apologist. Bye

1 minute ago, Tinydance said:

Sorry but I don't really understand why you're so obsessed with this? Are you some kind of "goody goody" law obiding citizen that needs to always make sure everything is up to scratch? Do you live in a country where they don't like immigrants or you don't like immigrants? Has this person done something that you want to get revenge?

This person has come from a poor country and you said yourself she has been working. She's been doing work and contributing to society. She legitimately does work for that company and was there for four months. Then she got promoted. I don't think you really have any proof unless you are able to hack all her forms of media and social media. She probably considered you a friend so she told you this. But how wrong she was because you just want to stab her in the back.

I don't like unlawful immigrants who come here to do fraud and stay back. We are not anti immigrant but such cases only cause issues for other immigrants and home population. 

She hasn't contributed to the society as the shady company she works for only caters to asian clients and China isn't poor anymore.

Just now, MissCanuck said:

Her "insta posts" are not evidence of fraud, OP. 

I would urge you to speak to an actual immigration attorny to help you better understand these matters. You are missing an awful lot here. 

My landlord is already doing this so don't worry about and he's works in legal aid. So be knows what he's doing

Just now, MissCanuck said:

You don't seem to understand how these cases work, and how much proof is actually legally required to prove a case for fraud. 

Your opinion and suspicion do not count as legal evidence. 

There is much evidence from the company itself. They will see it themselves and the report will at least help in identifying people like this who are using shady tactics to stay back in our country 

Just now, MissCanuck said:

You can't prove that, though. That is what you are failing to understand. 

Why did you come here for opinions if you have already decided you are right and people are already reporting this to authorities? It seems like you are wasting your feelings and time on something that isn't really your problem. 

 

Can prove it. Her insta post confirms and she even said she fooled authorities so its not difficult.

Home office can easily see that her vacancy was not genuine.

Yeah now I don't need replies 

4 minutes ago, Tinydance said:

You would first need to prove that she got promoted only for a visa. She actually wasn't a brand new employee there that just started. She was there for four months. You would need to find texts, E-mails, whatever proof you could get to prove this. Promoting someone is not illegal. 

You didn't answer my question, do you hate this roommate? You seem to really want to do something bad to her?

She was there 4 months as an assistant and then suddenly becomes an executive right before visa is supposed to expire. Said this herself 

Clear as day.

I don't like unlawful immigrants 

Just now, MissCanuck said:

So?

That doesn't mean your landlord has the proof to make an actual case for immigration fraud. 

You seem very emotionally invested in this issue. Why is that? 

The company has no job or property listings and she has her Instagram post written in Chinese where she has made these statements herself.

I'm not against immigration but against those type of immigrants

3 minutes ago, MissCanuck said:

I read everything. 

It changes my opnion not one bit. Promotion is not illegal.

Butt out and quit over-involving yourself in something you aren't that informed about. 

My landlord and another roommate will now report her. Promotion to get a visa is illegal. Even the home office has the genuine vacancy requirement.

So quit it

1 minute ago, MissCanuck said:

I read everything. 

It changes my opnion not one bit. Butt out. 

My landlord has decided to report it so you can butt out if you don't like this post 

Just now, Tinydance said:

But so what? Why do you care if she got promoted? It's not illegal to promote someone. How does it affect you and your life?

She told me she got promoted only because she would get a work visa. 

This is not a genuine vacancy or job but created to get her a visa 

I have been told by my bf and friends who work in legal that this is wrong and our landlord itself has decided to report this to home office

35 minutes ago, MissCanuck said:

If she is no longer living with you, then leave it be. 

You don't seem to have all the details about her true legal or employment status, and really, it's none of your business what she does with her relationship. 

Butt out. 

Written in the post yet didnt even bother reading.

she finally revealed that since her graduate visa expires in March 2022, she had contacted her friends who connected her to this company and they assured her that they would promote her from a sales assistant to an executive post just before her visa would expire. Hence, she would be able to secure a work visa through this way

19 minutes ago, MissCanuck said:

Yes, there seems to be a degree of problem-shopping here, without any actual evidence of wrong-doing. 

 

Didn't read and came to the post 

17 minutes ago, Tinydance said:

I also didn't exactly see anything in the post actually suggesting she was in the country illegally? OP wrote that she had a variety of different jobs. I don't really understand why it's suspicious that she got a promotion after four months. If for example the manager was leaving and they needed someone to fill the role, they gave it to her. Or they were very happy with her work. OP seems to find everything about this housemate suspicious but those things aren't suspicious in and of themselves. Employers usually ask for proof of citizenship or residency so unless she's using fake documents, I'm sure they checked everything before employing her. I don't really see what her dating a white guy has to do with any of this. 

Did you read anything at all???

Because you clearly didn't. I wrote very clearly that she told me this herself that she was offered the assistant role with the promise that she would be promoted just before her visa expires so that she can apply for new one 

How hard was it to read?

1 hour ago, Tinydance said:

OK so to me this would all depend on the overall situation. When he exchanged numbers with this student, was he giving his personal number? Or does he get given a work phone or he has a work office with a phone? When I first went to university, that was in 2003 and people were still using landline phones. It was considered normal for a lecturer/professor/tutor to say to students that they can contact them for any help or make appointments to discuss anything. Of course the discussion had to be university related or somehow relevant: "E.g. I'm being bullied by other students." I'm also not sure if a work phone isn't provided that there may be a need to give your personal number.

Nowadays some people work from home so for example if he's not in an office at work and wasn't given a work phone, maybe he needs to speak to students or colleagues on his private phone. I would get suspicious if he has an office phone or work cell phone but he was giving out his personal number. But if he's required by work to give his personal number out then it's not suspicious.

I'm not actually sure what proof you have that he was talking to and walking with a student. Sometimes at university I was speaking to a teacher after class but they had to teach another class so we would walk out together or something like that because we were still speaking. I'm not saying he's not cheating but I just don't see a large amount in your post specifically that indicates this in an of itself. 

He gave his personal number.

Already I wrote I saw them leaving outside uni, disappearing around the tube station.

39 minutes ago, Wiseman2 said:

She is no longer living with you? 

Still but stays mostly either the bf so not with us much

Our flatmate is a 32 year old woman and is manipulating the visa system to gain a work visa. She did her MA and got the graduate route in 2022. Since then she has has held the role of Chinese teacher, and steward on a 0 hour contract. After that she worked full time for one of the museums as a visitor assistant. 

However she was constantly applying for jobs in companies and was buying tests and question and answer packages from China (she's chinese) for KPMG etc to pass their tests. However, she never passed the interviews because her spoken English is quite poor and once she failed the tests as the test questions were different than what she received in the test package.

She left for China on November 2022 and returned in early February 2023 and quickly started dating a white guy. Since then she's acted in very shady ways. She never applied for any jobs but was using WeChat to get jobs in Chinese companies in London. She told me she got a job in March 23 as an educational consultant at a Chinese student agency through WeChat, hoping they will provide her with a visa. However by June, the company informed her that they cannot sponsor her because her role does not meet the criteria set by Home Office. 

She quit the job immediately and got in contact with her Chinese friends who provided her with job at a Chinese real estate company by Aug 23 as a sales assistant. She seemed quite happy and was posting on her social media about how she's looking forward to the next chapter in her life. By December 23, she told me how she was promoted to a property sales executive.

I was quite surprised at the swift promotion in just 4 months and she finally revealed that since her graduate visa expires in March 2022, she had contacted her friends who connected her to this company and they assured her that they would promote her from a sales assistant to an executive post just before her visa would expire. Hence, she would be able to secure a work visa through this way 

The company she works for has a limited online presence with low LinkedIn followers, has no job or property listings on their website and has an alert ⚠️ sign before the URL warning users to not enter any information on this site.

She has moved in with the white boyfriend and was joking about how she fooled the immigration authorities and now she can live in the UK.

I was extremely uncomfortable hearing this and now I don't know if I should inform someone or just let it be and let her do what she wants.

Any ideas?

4 hours ago, Batya33 said:

Yes- so what as Andrina asked are your understandings about boundaries when it comes to friendships with the opposite sex?

I'm OK with friendship as long he's open and honest. He is honest with other women. It's just this one he was hiding

2 hours ago, Wiseman2 said:

He seems flattered by the attention. Not necessarily "cheating", but he's enjoying it. 

But you don't think he's cheated when he wasn't replying and went out?

Heloo

6 hours ago, Andrina said:

What are the relationship rules that you two have established as far as giving phone numbers to opposite sex acquaintances and new friends? As well as the rules of hanging out with people, one on one, of the opposite sex as far as friends and colleagues go.

Sounds like a given that a lot of students have his personal number for university business. How long have you two been together? Do you match on relationship boundaries? Does he seem to enjoy a lot of female company as seems to be possible, since this appears to be the case in what I quoted above? What is his relationship history, and what is yours?

Just trying to get a bigger picture. In any case, if you feel like your relationship is built on sea sand instead of concrete, perhaps you'd be happier with someone whom you can have total trust in.

Been together for 2 years.

He does enjoy female attention and he was quite close to a female colleague in the office who was married and had a child. But I knew about her.

He has been divorced once.

I have never married.

Just now, Coily said:

No. I'm referring to her going to the office after him not responding to her.

Yes I'm assuming she was texting him a lot and he wasn't replying so she went looking for him to confront him and speak to him in person as to why he wasn't replying

Just now, Coily said:

Could that be why he wasn't returning her texts? It sounds like she's putting off some stalker-ish vibes here.

No they went together. It's just that he started walking first and she went with him.

7 minutes ago, Coily said:

It's been 15 minutes or so...
He could feel guilty and they did something; he could feel uncomfortable because she made a pass at him and he turned her down, and fears she could make false accusations; it could be strictly work on a touchy subject on ethics. She could be a stage 5 clinger and expect him to give her and her project undivided attention?

Something to take into consideration is  he under a confidentiality agreement to not discuss a doctoral student? Is he bound by ethics or under penalty of being fired if he discusses student issues with non-relevant staff?

The big question I have for you, "Has he ever given you suspicion of cheating at other times? Or are you jealous/suspicious in this one particular case?" I don't want to down play your unease about this, but reflect and see if there is anything beyond these incidents listed here that would make you suspicious.

I know there will be a ton who just pile on the "he must be up to something" train, and feed these negative thoughts. I don't think that's fair to you or him. I would suggest you have a calm serious discussion with him about how you perceive and feel about this situation, his reaction will be telling. However avoid just confronting and accusing him of cheating, as he will never satisfy your questions while defensive.

No he's not bound by anything  she also finished her thesis and submitted so it wasn't like she still needed help

Plus he was the one who walked off and she was following him

Hellooo??